It's truly sad to see McCain put politics and his own career over America.
It's come out now that McCain made a rushed, desperate choice with Palin. Do something dramatic or lose for sure, he was told. Well, he'll lose for sure still. Even when she drops out and is replaced by Hutchinson, Romney or Pawlenty.
John McCain has been exposed as a reckless, dangerous, hot-headed fool. He is an unacceptable candidate for President.
Come on GOP. Give us someone else. Throw this nut overboard. Palin will take care of herself. But the rot in your party is at the top. Just like it was these past eight years.
(Bonus - check out Palin's seat of power, where she got all that great experience being touted by McCain and his GOP fools.)
Palin disclosures raise questions about vetting - Alaskans say no one from McCain camp asked them about eventual VP pick
Perhaps more important, several Republicans said, Mr. McCain was getting advice that if he did not do something to shake up the race, his campaign would be stuck on a potentially losing trajectory.
With time running out — and as Mr. McCain discarded two safer choices, Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, as too predictable — he turned to Ms. Palin. He had his first face-to-face interview with her on Thursday and offered her the job moments later.
“They didn’t seriously consider her until four or five days from the time she was picked, before she was asked, maybe the Thursday or Friday before,” said a Republican close to the campaign. “This was really kind of rushed at the end, because John didn’t get what he wanted. He wanted to do Joe or Ridge.”
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It's too bad you're not here in the US to listen to all of the right wing radio. It's hilarious stuff!!
These (fake) conservatives are so deluded that they are absolutely ecstatic about Palin. She made $10 million for the campaign over the weekend. The conservatives are frothing at the mouth over this woman so maybe it will work out after all.
Do we forget that America elected this man?
Dubya's Greatest Hits
TWICE??!!!
NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the American public, Keith.
It kinda bites that this blog has beomce a left wing propaganda site, with comment quality in freefall.
Yeah, starting to think I'm not going to miss this place so much.
Let's make sure I got this right?
George Bush. Cocaine? Check. DUI? Check. No Problem, we bless you as president.
Barack Obama. Abuse drugs and alcohol, including cocaine? Of course, he even makes money off of it by selling a book. Running for president? No problem.
Sarah Palin's husband had a DUI 22 years ago? No! Never! Will never hear of it! Totally unacceptable! (Really, it's because she is a woman, but we keep that swept under the rug and just talk about her husband's 22 year-old DUI to divert attention.)
You effing sexist pigs.
Not exactly the slant the McCain campaign wanted on this story--despite his "maverick" image...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26501863
I like this section, especially:
A rushed pick?
Up until midweek last week, some 48 to 72 hours before Mr. McCain introduced Ms. Palin at a Friday rally in Dayton, Ohio, Mr. McCain was still holding out the hope that he could name as his running mate a good friend, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, independent of Connecticut, a Republican close to the campaign said. Mr. McCain had also been interested in another favorite, former Gov. Tom Ridge of Pennsylvania.
But both men favor abortion rights, anathema to the Christian conservatives who make up a crucial base of the Republican Party. As word leaked out that Mr. McCain was seriously considering the men, the campaign was bombarded by outrage from influential conservatives who predicted an explosive floor fight at the convention and vowed rejection of Mr. Ridge or Mr. Lieberman by the delegates.
Perhaps more important, several Republicans said, Mr. McCain was getting advice that if he did not do something to shake up the race, his campaign would be stuck on a potentially losing trajectory.
With time running out — and as Mr. McCain discarded two safer choices, Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, as too predictable — he turned to Ms. Palin. He had his first face-to-face interview with her on Thursday and offered her the job moments later.
I don't understand. Where are the adults in the Republican party?
Does nobody care about the country?
Does nobody care to choose the truth, over lies?
Watching the GOP spinmeisters is like watching Lereah and Yun. There's no way they can believe the bullsh*t they're spewing. No way.
If Obama had chosen someone of equal stature, they're be all over it. But since it's their guy, nothing but support.
It's sickening, and it shows you why identifying with either party is for fools, and for fools only.
The only two conservative commentators I've seen willing to stand up on this one are Andrew Sullivan and Charles Krauthammer
They rightly threw Harriet Miers over the side. They should do the same with Palin. We'll see..
Gee, with his VP pick this exciting, can't wait to hear who his Sec of Defense and National Security Advisor picks will be!
Perhaps Britney Spears and Paris Hilton?
Would it surprise you to find out that GOP operatives are pushing the preggers daughter or drunk husband stories, to try to deflect away from the true issue:
She is woefully unprepared to be President of the United States.
Deep down, I hope she lasts until her first press conference. That'll be a hoot. And oh, if there's a santa claus, she'll make it all the way to the veep debate before pulling out.
That's a 2-bucket of popcorn day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c12DfJ_J2A
Carville nails her
the campaign was bombarded by outrage from influential conservatives who predicted an explosive floor fight at the convention and vowed rejection of Mr. Ridge or Mr. Lieberman by the delegates.
Just goes to show McCain the Maverick is, like, totally owned---a puppet under the control of the Party of Corporate Greed and Hypocritical Morality. Like always. Same old same old. Like Bush was by the oil industry.
They rightly threw Harriet Miers over the side. They should do the same with Palin. We'll see..
I was wondering if this is actually the PLAN from the beginning--if he now throws her under a bus and picks Romney, everyone may suddenly be RELIEVED!
But then again, no, the Republidiots have decided enmasse that they need to LOVE this pick, so she'll stay.
Just wait until the twice-elected, Worst EVER bumbling stumbling stutterer-in-chief speaks at the GOP Convention. What a bad joke. Hopefully no one will ask him what 'sovereign' means again. Maybe Palin could enlighten 43?
Following Bushco "speech" GOP credibility will be reduced
to 0 or less.
Only thing worse would be Cheneyburton giving a speech on GOP ethics. Then credibility would be in negative numbers and overall Bushco approval ratings to single digits.
Give up Grandpa Munster McCain.
Go be a Senator from somewhere again and tell everyone down at the bar what a hero you are.
Try not to lose your temper and show us your rage problems or beat your wife until after the election.
GOP is doomed. Watch McCain turn to wax on TV this week. He can always blame the Ambien...
Please, someone, anyone, restore my faith in humanity, and in America.
Someone post that they're a Republican, and recognize that Sarah Palin should not be a candidate for Vice President of the United States of America.
Please, someone, anyone.
Or have we truly sunk this low?
You effing sexist pigs.
Oh yeah, now it's sexist to want a competent person to hold the highest office in the land. In case you didn't notice we're also making fun of Bush and McCain...
It's like how now you are anti-semitic if you don't want American taxpayer dollars to be spent defending Israel and attacking Israel's enemies.
Can we stop being a bunch of childish idiots? It's time to grow up and stop being so damned COLLECTIVIST!!
Stock market UP appox 250 points then in freefal to end approx 50 points down for the Monday session.
Wild market swings, 300 point ranges just like in the pre-depression crash. Well Gustav disappointed me, but the greed on Wall Street and greater American fools never disappoints.
Nobody seems to give 2 shits, either.
Well sheeple, WAIT until one fine day coming soon that same market loses a FEW THOUSAND points in one day and keeps dropping while about 4 major banks simultaneously go up in flames and declare they are all done, finito, leaving Joe Six pack broke and hungry...
Got Ammo?
You were warned.
Where in the world is Ron Paul?
Please google: Is John McCain a compulsive gambler...
Impulsive/compulsive...
All this speculation about Palin's qualifications is still missing the point:
McCain is extremely self-conscious about his short stature.
Palin was chosen to make him appear taller in the photo ops.
To McVain, image is everything...
"Carville nails her"
nahhh, Carville didn't do nothing;
There are 100 senators but 50 governors so Palin has a more pretigious role.
As senator, Obama has hid behind the dysfunctional politics of congress whereas Palin had to take direct responsibility.
I'm excited enough about here that I might even donate a little to the McCain campaign.
i.e. while Obama talked about washington outsiders, it took Palin to get one.
Here's another thing I don't get.
Why the hell would Sarah Palin have said yes to McCain?
I mean, can you picture someone offering you the job? Knowing the media spotlight. Knowing you have to answer questions on an unbelievable host of domestic and foreign affairs issues.
Knowing that you'll have a one-on-one prime-time debate, against a guy with 30+ years of foreign policy experience.
Wow.
Then add in all her family troubles, and I find it amazing that Palin said yes.
And now, the fall.
It won't be pretty.
And McCain will of course blame the Dems, when in the end, he'll be blaming himself.
He could have lost with honor and dignity. But instead, we get this. A farce. A joke. Another sad chapter in recent American political history.
Sarah Palin will be the last unvetted VP pick, you can rest assured. Thanks to blogs and the 24-hour news cycle, we do the vetting now, not the candidate.
All VP's in the future will be ex-Presidential candidates and seasoned DC or State House veterans.
No more neophytes. Sarah Palin was the last.
I'll actually miss her. It sure was entertaining for a bit.
Where in the world is Ron Paul?
Ron Paul is at the Campaign for Liberty today in St Paul. You can watch it live here:
Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty - The True Conservative's National Convention - Live
way OT, i think the FDIC's OIG took their contact email down off their website.
http://www.fdicoig.gov/contact.shtml
they had a quick and handy web contact form for filing complaints/concerns. now there's just their phone # and mailing address.
i guess they were getting too many complaints and inquiries from the thinking public... and we can't have that.
let alone her support of an organization whose goal is Alaska seceding from the union.
Or the one about threatening to fire the librarian who refused to go along with her plan to ban books.
Or the whole brother-in-law things.
I suspect that she'll suddenly find the desire to spend more time with her family.
Picking a woman was the smart move politically, picking THIS woman may not have been that bright.
If McCain wanted to be calculating and pick someone based on their sex and not their qualifications (which I find sad, and illegal if it was private sector), he could have went with Olympia Snowe, Kay Baily Hutchinson or Libby Dole, for starters.
He picked one of the least qualified women in the GOP.
Can you imagine being Sarah Palin? From debating parking spaces in a tiny little Alaskan town just a few weeks ago, to possibly being President of the United States in a few more weeks?
It's like a movie.
Seriously. This can't be reality. It has to be a movie.
You know you it a liberal nerve when they are all in a Palin Panic and a now attempting to kill it before November. How entertaing to watch and we shall see my radical friends of Obama when this is over and McCain takes it all. Hey your new blog can be the Palin Panic with an attitude problem because you really need to find something else to do with your new time off from housing which is old news.
Sorry MEN. Sarah Palin will make you eat your words. She is better qualified than Obama himself and will hold greedy institutions and greedy people accountable for their part in the housing crises. All you need to do is look at Tony Rezko savings and loan for Obama. But be careful. William Ayers may bomb you.
toldyouso
I just want her in playboy.She is such a hot mom.I wonder if she wears a thong?
i agree that the choice was more of political move than any other.
but...the next president will be a one term president. their vp names will fade away.
still not voting for either though.
>Seriously. This can't be reality.
>It has to be a movie.
Part of me wonders if they're doing it so they can have a reasonable excuse when they lose big in November.
Back when Dole was running there were a bunch of people who were sneaking off the bandwagon without telling the candidate.
The first thing American's need to do to understand that both parties are a joke is start to get informed. You will never know what is going on in the world if all of your information comes from the corporate media.
CSpan Junkie
Today has Ron Paul, Amy Goodman on her arrest at the RNC (this woman knows what tyranny looks like after being violently beaten by Indonesian soldiers in the Dili Massacre and now she's experienced violent tyranny here in the US of A) and much more...
Infowars
Always focuses on important stories concerning foreign policy, police state and government corruption (no fluff)
Information Clearing House
The stories the mainstream media does not want to cover.
There's no PalinPANIC.
It truly is joy. She makes McCain unelectable. And he blew his one and only story line against Obama - the experience thing.
I hope she lasts all the way through election day. What a ride it'll be.
But that won't happen. She'll be gone soon, we'll get a boring replacement, and McCain will still lose.
That said, the American voter makes me nervous. They were reckless with their vote in '00 and '04. The world is scared of the American voter now. Me too.
By the way, can you imagine a Palin/Putin summit? Can you imagine a Palin State of the Union Address?
In one fell swoop, McCaininites have eliminated the experience issue and the nut pastor issue. Her pastor is a frickin loon. Sees Jesus in a cheese sandwich.
Hell yes, theres a god. He "sent" Sarah Palin to insure the biggest landslide in history... for Obama.
I'm sorry I was looking for housing panic and somehow I ended up on DailyKos
"She is woefully unprepared to be President of the United States."
Seriously? You mean less prepared than a community organizer?
No!
Don't worry democrats. We have Obama whose more popular than Lindsey Lohan. We have the mainstream media on our side.
P.Diddy and Ludacris too.
There is no way we will lose this election.
Sarah Palin is just like the Paris Hilton ads.
Liberals like Qweef are in a panic over Palin just like they were in a panic over the ads. Which means only one thing....it is working for McCain.
I was never much of a McCain guy. Now I am. This is a great choice for him and the proof is in the fact that CNN and HP hate it.
"Can you imagine being Sarah Palin? From debating parking spaces in a tiny little Alaskan town just a few weeks ago, to possibly being President of the United States in a few more weeks?
It's like a movie.
Seriously. This can't be reality. It has to be a movie."
Can you imagine being Obama, working as a community agitator, I mean organizer, just a few short months ago, and then running for president on mere platitudes, and then having a major party actually nominate you?
And then run around saying stupid stuff like getting us off of foreign oil, while opposing drilling?
>If Obama had chosen someone of equal stature, they're be all over it.
Yeah, and if McCain picked a rich white guy with 72 years under his belt that would have been a problem.
Obama and Palin both have thin resumes. Balance the ticket. Certainly someone of your intelligence understands this Keith. bitterrenter on the other hand... that's a different matter.
Now let me say this once again cause I'm certain a good portion of the audience already forgot. Obama has a thin resume (in the opinion of many many people).
Obama was last a community organizer in 1988, or 20 years ago. He was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1997. Over 10 years ago. And of course, a US Senator since 2004.
Palin by comparison was Mayor of a town of a few thousand people in Alaska, leaving in 2002. After that she was the director of indicted Senator Ted Stevens' 527 influence group. And she was governor of AK since Dec '06 - for the past 21 months. 93 weeks.
She has 93 weeks of meaningful experience. That's it. 93 f*cking weeks.
To say Palin has more experience, or anywhere near the experience of Obama, is a joke.
You either know that's a joke, and you're a spinning party hack, or you're a fool. One or the other.
And you're especially a fool if you think having 93 weeks of experience as the governor of a small remote state qualifies you to be President of the United States.
If Sarah Palin had run against McCain and Romney etc for President, she would have been laughed out of the room.
None of the anonymoose posters want to talk about Palin's pastor.
Isn't one president who believes God tells him what to do enough?
I dare you to defend the pastor who said those who voted for Kerry were going to hell.
Thank God Palin has been protecting us from the Ruskies while we slept.
Even Charles SauerKrauthamer can see the idiocy of this pick.
I can understand why he could not reach out to Joe Liebermann, but why not Tom Ridge. I honestly thought Tom Ridge was the VP Candidate of Choice for the job.
Stick to real estate commentary, you're good at that.
You completely misread the implications of the Palin pick. Sure, I wish there were other, better conservatives to pick from, but in reality, it's a good political choice.
All the media/in-the-tank-for-Obama types are complaining about the VP choice, for some reason, instead of trying to debate issues, where you might be able to make a good case to the American people.
She's a good political choice, and actually can pass as a conservative. That's much more than I expected from McCain - I may even be able to vote for him now.
Tom Ridge believes women have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, thus he was deemed unacceptable to be VP by the GOP
Last Anon (good god, sign your posts), you are correct - and you must not have good reading comprehension skills:
THIS WAS A PURELY POLITICAL PICK
John McCain chose politics, and winning, over country. And anyone who supports this pick, regardless of their party affiliation or politics, is in favor of putting America and the world at needless risk.
Because of politics.
"John McCain chose politics, and winning, over country. And anyone who supports this pick, regardless of their party affiliation or politics, is in favor of putting America and the world at needless risk.
Because of politics."
obama would not be the nominee if he were white.
soooo...now that we got the politicin' out of the way. do what i do.
DON'T VOTE FOR EITHER ONE!!!!!!
We're just going to have to disagree on that one.
A lot of people don't think state legislators do much of anything except pass out favors to buddies, and that Chicago is particularly bad in that respect.
there is a tanning salon to the left and it looks like the town hall used to be a drivethrough.
Keith, palin is just as qualified for office as obama (and not in a good way), if you weren't in your heart of hearts a democrat, you would be able to admit that.
Again, if you think being mayor of a town of a few thousand people is similar experience to serving as a state senator, you're deluded.
Seriously, you're deluded.
And you have no idea what a state senator does, or what the mayor of a town of a few thousand people does.
America is in trouble if thinking like this is out there. It's dangerous, as well as painfully ignorant.
Check out the huge (peaceful) protest going on at the RNC:
Insane in the McCain Brain
You won't see it on the evening news.
Again, it is about the OIL. She just happened to be female and pretty.
Duh.
McCain temperment: hot-head
McCain judgement: terrible
Obama experience: Much much much better than Palin
Seriously, someone explain to me how McCain didn't make all of Obama's arguments for him with this pick?
I think you'll see Obama just stay quiet on Palin, and let this thing play out.
It feels like McCain took a dive. If not, he's just painfully stupid.
How do I know she'll drop out? Because I just can't picture a veep debate with Palin vs. Biden. And I can't picture a Palin press conference.
It won't happen. It would be too good to be true.
Again, Palin will be the last candidate for veep who's an unknown. It's just too dangerous, and it takes the campaign off message.
McCain doesn't use a computer, has never used google, and likely had/had no idea what a blog is.
Welcome to the future John McCain. Glad we could help.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN0243503220080902
Palin hubbub shows bloggers' influence on race
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The blogs are alive with the sound of Sarah.
Republican candidate John McCain's staffers may deplore the online rumor mill that forced them to announce the pregnancy of newly minted running mate Sarah Palin's 17-year-old daughter.
But experts have some perhaps unwelcome advice: Get used to it.
"It used to be that a rumor would float across your desk and you'd say, 'That's just so outrageous we're not even going to respond to it,'" said Republican strategist Todd Harris, a former McCain spokesman. "But nowadays you really have to push back forcefully against almost every single bit of gossip and rumor."
Palin's announcement disrupted the campaign's carefully orchestrated plan to introduce the little-known governor to the public in a high-profile speech on Wednesday. Instead, it prompted reporters and bloggers to dig further into Palin's background and question the wisdom of McCain's pick.
"It probably let the cat out of the bag before they intended to let that information out," said Republican communications consultant David All.
Besides being completely unqualified for the Vice-Presidency of these United States, Sarah Palin gets the award for the WORST mother in the US.
McCain and Sarah Palin threw the daughter and boy friend under the bus. By offering her the position and by her accepting, the two of them put their ambition ahead of the welfare of the nation and Palin's family.
When logic and facts can't change your opinion, you are a fanatic. And a lot of the conservatives here are deep in fanatic territory.
I feel sorry for the daughter. She was trotted out on stage for her mother's acceptance speech, holding the down syndrome baby, with a blanket covering up her mid section. What was going through her mind? Was she humiliated?
This is callous calculation that would make a Nazi proud. It is disgusting. No caring mother would ever exploit their child like this. And not a word about this from the Party of family values. What a bunch of hypocrites.
McCain's judgement-Zero. McCain & Palin's integrity-less than Zero!
Check out all the photos of her boozin daughter at thedirty.com
Why are the Repug families always the ones into sex and booze?
Paint the shotgun white, daddy, it's gonna be formal!
Check and running mate!
America, you now live in a fascist police state:
78 Year Old Nun Arrested at Republican National Convention
Even the kids are out protesting against Bush:
Kids march to Impeach Bush
Even well known journalists like Amy Goodman are rounded up and detained when defending other journalists that are beaten, dragged on the ground and imprisoned for daring to cover the events at the RNC:
Democracy Now's Amy Goodman Speaks About Her Arrest
Is this America or Communist China??!
And the dems choosing a black muslim was not a politically correct hail mail? After all, Obama was the most experienced.....
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
Regardless of that fact, our choices are this for president:
A black muslim, or a rich old white man.
It kind of sounds like the intro to a bad joke.
Either way we are screwed.
So Palin's husband had a DUI more than 20 years ago. At least he didn't kill an innocent woman by ditching his car in a river, while driving drunk, like Ted Kennedy did. Yep, the same Ted Kennedy who's now endorsing your Messiah. Women voters should think twice before following Ted Kennedy on anything.
Can you imagine being Sarah Palin? From debating parking spaces in a tiny little Alaskan town just a few weeks ago, to possibly being President of the United States in a few more weeks?
It's like a movie.
Seriously. This can't be reality. It has to be a movie.
Actually, it was a TV show!!! :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander_in_Chief_(TV_series)
But it was cancelled after one season. Hmmmmm...
i'd still bang her silly
Sundry Vermin,
Agreed! With the Nov 5th expiration date on the site, I'm starting to wonder if this blog site is just another "viral" "colored" project funded by Soros.
Sarah Palin will be the last unvetted VP pick, you can rest assured. Thanks to blogs and the 24-hour news cycle, we do the vetting now, not the candidate.
All VP's in the future will be ex-Presidential candidates and seasoned DC or State House veterans.
No more neophytes. Sarah Palin was the last.
Actually, I think laws requiring specific vetting steps will be passed. Bonded/insured/licensed professional vetting corporations will spring up. (Which will be loyal to the Republicans of course, just like the voting machine manufacturers are.)
"If Obama had chosen someone of equal stature, they're be all over it. . ."
And rightly so, for Obama to choose someone inexperienced (including Hilary) would be like W choosing Quale for running mate. On the other hand, it is quite common for seasoned presidential candidates to choose a youngling for the VP position; for example, FDR picking Truman.
"Again, if you think being mayor of a town of a few thousand people is similar experience to serving as a state senator, you're deluded."
this has to be the first time in history a presidential nominee is forced to run against the other presidential nominee's VP choice.
lol...and the argument is about which one is least qualified.
gotta be a first.
(not voting for either)
but damn do you dopes have to play into the republicans hand by forcing the comparison between POTUS and VPOTUS?
Keith,
I'm not Republican, and ideally, I don't think Palin should be the VP candidate . . . she should the Presidential Candidate! McCain should be her VP. Out of all for people on the two tickets, Palin is the only one actually successfully combatted corruption and reduced the size of government. She is the only libertarian-leaning of all four candidates. Not having her at the top of ticket is really an injustice to her! Read this piece by another Ron Paul supporter:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/palin-tragegy.html
"keith: No more neophytes. Sarah Palin was the last."
keith, keith, keith, keith... you're insulting women. while bachman didn't have a good response to that jab, my mother, who was a "stay at home mom," helped my brother get into Yale, where he got a Phd, and my sister into Texas A & M where she got one.
when she tried to get a job, they told her: "you have no experience."
personally, the most important experience Palin will bring is her lifestyle because people want simpler, scaled down, slower lives.
as far as I can tell, very few people have the luxary she had of living life slowly and I think that she's not going to have the typical ADD brain that washington insiders get.
the hope you should have keith is that, via globalization, the number of people studying technology will grow exponentially and, by using technology to find the potentially bright, we're going to have an era where intellectual growth rockets to the moon.
yes, things are bumpy right now but bush and cheny had the vision to actually deploy the type of technology which, while big brother, will also allow economic planners to locate the golden needles in the haystack.
and I think that this will have a huge impact since every single book I've read about education suggests that prolific thinkers start their careers before the age of 7!
hence, the neo-education era will, I think, ultimately understand that human potential is our most important resource and it must be harnessed in ways that we never thought possible!
in general, I support NCLB because only 31% of college graduates were "document literate" (able to read) in 2005 whereas 37% were in 1992.
moreover, I think that mccain/palin will continue to make underperforming educational systems a moral hazzard whereas obama will be more hesitant due to his association with teaching unions.
and, FYI, i specifically mentioned "document literacy" since, as we know, illiteracy was one of the primary reasons behind the subprime problems.
"Check and running mate!"
fail
Keith,
"Knowing that you'll have a one-on-one prime-time debate, against a guy with 30+ years of foreign policy experience."
You will see just how shallow that 30+ years of nonsense is. Biden will come off like an idiot if Palin sticks to her common sensical approaches. Frankly, if the VP debate really centers around foreign policies, and if Palin sticks to her Alaskan libertarian roots (for self-determination, against empire), more and more people will come around to realize that McCain should be her VP!
"Then add in all her family troubles, and I find it amazing that Palin said yes."
What family trouble? Remember Carter's brother and Roger Clinton? Not to mention Hilary, Jennifer, Gennifer, etc. etc. Being a governor already exposes one to the typical media muck racking . . . a sitting VP attracts much less controversy position after the elections than a sitting governor. Aside from Chenney's tenure, no one cares about what VP does; that's only because Chenney was the real president. LOL
"keith: Then add in all her family troubles, and I find it amazing that Palin said yes."
personally, I think she's an amazing women and admire her entire family for staying together given what she's gone through.
john edwards, as you know, was a VP candidate and he's refusing to pubically associate himself with his love child.
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Palin was an inspired Ballsey choice!
This is Great!
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Sorry MEN. Sarah Palin will make you eat your words.
Actually, my girlfriend is more strongly against Palin than I am. She thinks its a SHOCKING BLUNDER for her to be picked, and even WORSE for her to ACCEPT and put her important new job between her and her current family issues.
My girlfriend's Florida Mom is even more disgusted than that.
And I'm sure my sister, niece and ex wife are outraged too. If my mom were alive, she'd probably be quietly furrowing her brow.
You better look around at some other blogs--a LOT of women, including ones who were GOING to vote Bush, will NOT now.
And before you gloat for too long about having a woman on the ticket, bear in mind THIS particular pick could set women-on-the-ticket back TWENTY YEARS if it goes badly.
Remember Al Sharpton trying to run for President?
You got twenty years to wait for the next woman candidate? Or wouldn't you rather have had McCain pick a GOOD woman VP he could win with THIS year?
They say smell is the sense most directly connected to the memory. I'm starting to smell a Mondale/Ferraro or Perot/Stockdale situation.
Remember Stockdale? "Who am I? Why am I here?" He was a POW too. Wait 'till the debates.
In an interview on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 Monday night, Obama was asked about whether his experience in the U.S. Senate dealing with weather-related situations compares to Palin’s executive experience running the state of Alaska and as the small town mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.
“My understanding is that Gov. Palin’s town, Wassilla, has I think 50 employees. We've got 2500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe 12 million dollars a year – we have a budget of about three times that just for the month,” Obama responded.
What a DUMB_ASS, he's qualified to be President???
"Very interesting, but stupid." Did Obama have a staff of 2500 people working for him while Governor Palin was Mayor of Wassila? Governor Palin became Mayor of Wasila in 1996, the same year Barack Obama was running for the Illinois State Senate. Somehow think 2500 might be a tad much for an Illinois State Senate campaign. Illinois Senators have district offices, so I assume once he was elected, he had a small staff, but certainly not 50 people.
In 2004 Obama was elected to the US Senate. U.S. Senators have staffs of 40 people. How long has Barack Obama had a cast of thoustands working for him? It's only been this year that the campaign has ramped up to that level when Sarah Palin has been governor, not mayor of Wasilla.
Try 15,000 people or six times the size of Obama's campaign. In addition, the State employees work in diverse areas such as labor, law enforcement, and highways while Obama's 2500 are dedicated to electing him. Palin has 15,000 employees to cover one of the largest states in the union where inclimate weather is a way of life.
According the Obama's OWN criteria, Palin is 6 TIMES MORE QUALIFIED than himself.
Wake up America, this guy is a MORON!!!
Keith,
93 weeks as governor is 93 weeks more than Obama has in any major executive position. What's Obama's voting record for his four years in the US Senate? "Present"? Isn't that like saying he sat on the pottie and refused to poop the whole time? Same with his voting record in the IL senate . . . it was so bad that the IL voters actually unseated him after one term
The impeccable logic of Keith:
Choosing a one-term Governor for Vice President = insanity.
Choosing a one-term Senator for President = wisdom.
MBNA paid Biden son at critical time for bill - Santa Cruz Sent...
A son of Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden was paid an undisclosed amount of money as a consultant by MBNA, the largest employer in Delaware, during the years the senator supported legislation ...
The Democratic vice presidential candidate's son Hunter, 38, and brother James, 59, assert instead that their former partner defrauded them by misrepresenting his experience in the hedge fund industry and recommending that they hire a lawyer with felony convictions.
The legal actions have been playing out in New York State Supreme Court
Biden brother and son being indicted on fraud
Hunter Biden is one of many children and relatives of prominent members of Congress who have made their careers as lobbyists. (Obama=Hypocrite)
HELLO!!! ABC? NBC?? CNN?? ANYBODY?????
OF COURSE NOT, THERE'S A 16 YEAR GIRL WHO'S LIFE WE NEED TO DESTROY. BESIDES, BIDEN IS A dEMORAT.
Consultant,
Who died and made you the head of the Palin household? Bristol was beaming with pride when she was on the stage. You partisan hacks are the true hypocrit. How dare you talk about humiliating the girl when you were the guys running wild with outrageous rumors about Trig being Bristol's son! I'm not a Republican, and never voted for Republican before . . . this time around, I may just vote for the Palin ticket (no, I don't care for McCain).
Yes, it would be even better if Palin stayed in Alaska, and eventually having the state spun off as its own independent republic, so the American Empire can give way to the original consitutional republic with willing participating states. However, at this juncture, we desperately need someone with fresh perspective in DC to wind down the fiasco that our American Empire has turned into. Obama, with his pandering and mortgage-banking friendly ways, especially with Biden the quintessential bankers' friend riding shotgun, is not the change that we need.
keith said...
Please, someone, anyone, restore my faith in humanity, and in America.
Someone post that they're a Republican, and recognize that Sarah Palin should not be a candidate for Vice President of the United States of America.
Well, as an independent, I’ll give it a shot.
Complain about the “lesser of two evils options”, complain about having to once again vote for the status quo, then someone comes along and it’s neither, and you complain about not having a status quo option.
So no, she should not be a candidate for VP.
Suzanne, the out of work realtor should be a candidate for VP.
You sheeple deserve it.
"Because I just can't picture a veep debate with Palin vs. Biden. And I can't picture a Palin press conference."
What makes you think that Biden's going to mop the floor with Palin?
He's just another dumbass, blowhard senator. This is a country run by monkeys, remember? Biden is one of those monkeys, just like Reid, Pelosi, Bush, and McCain.
This is a guy that got less votes in the Iowa primary than there are residents in Wasilla, AK.
Where were his shining moments in the democratic debates?
This is a guy whose only memorable moments are racist gaffes about Indians, boasting about DL being a slave state, and him boasting about how much smarter he is than everyone else.
This was a guy that influenced the disastrous policy in the balkans where serbia was bombed and kosovo given independence. This was one of the things that has really pissed off Russia.
This is a guy that wanted to split up Iraq and voted for the Iraq war resolution.
This is a guy that lifted speeches from someone else and presented it as his own. That says it all about his character and his intelligence.
"Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it. You know, I just do things. The mob has plans, the cops have plans, Gordon's got plans. You know, they're schemers. Schemers trying to control their worlds. I'm not a schemer. I try to show the schemers how pathetic their attempts to control things really are. So, when I say that you and your girlfriend was nothing personal, you know that I'm telling the truth." - the joker
i just love that quote...we all should be more like the joker.
RIP heath.
"McCain temperment: hot-head
McCain judgement: terrible
Obama experience: Much much much better than Palin"
Tell me Keith, how was Obama's judgment when he launched his political campaign in the house of dear friend, Bill Ayers?
Where was Obama's judgment when he was friends and did business with convicted felons like Tony Rezco?
Where was Obama's judgment when he joined and remained in Rev. Wright's racist and marxist cult for 20 years?
btw keith...
hail mary's make sportscenter if they work.
biden was a 4th and 6 run up the middle.
i'd go with a hail mary over that any day.
(but i ain't voting for either)
"Why are the Repug families always the ones into sex and booze?"
umm, john edwards had an affair while his wife was fighting cancer.
I'm pissed because I wanted him to myself.
My oh My....
The right wing media and radio have completely lost it...
I don't think they ever had it to begin with.
I sit and watch Oreilly, Glen Beck, Hannity and so on defend this women..offended that there is any scrunity around her.."The american people can relate to her"" WTF...Sorry dudes we are not ignorant...Why is that when someone so dumb as this women or man the republicans always say we can relate to her.
I think the republicans can use her as a puppet in the white house, as they did with Bush.
Palin reminds me of Bush...A puppet to control.
I am so so sick of Politicians..period.
This will probably be the last time I will vote..It will be for Obama. I swear if Obama wins and lets us down..No more. I will come to conclusion we are Fucked!!
Well come on. The conservative brainstems will vote for who they're told to vote for. Maybe jeeeezzzuuus told them to vote for the hypocrite mommy from Alaska with the drunk husband who used to belong to a radical right wing secessionist party. Or maybe they like the baby she took from her daughter and called her own. Now little daughter has another one in the oven and her delinquent boyfriend, all of 18, is going to marry her (at the end of a shotgun).
Maybe they like how she supported the "bridge to nowhere" until it became politically unpopular then opposed it. or maybe they like the way Alaskans pretned to hate government money but are consistently in the top 6 for getting federal money. Little Sarah Palin sucked up to the indicted Sen. Stevens to bring 7.6 mill in federal earmarks to her little town.
But the filthy ignorant brainstems rally around her. Poor things need instructions on how to breathe.
Blogger keith said...
I don't understand. Where are the adults in the Republican party?
Does nobody care about the country?
Does nobody care to choose the truth, over lies?
You still have hope don't you? You still think that somehow the guys in the white hats are going to ride in and fix everything wrong with the good ole USA. Andrew Hac has told us over and over again. It is over. We are finished. Nobody cares. It is not a political problem, or a banking problem, or a housing problem. It is a moral problem. We don't know what moral is any longer. We have no morals. We have turned on each other like rabid dogs.
It is a race to the bottom now. Wherever that may be.
Everyday I read and think, surely this is the bottom, just to be surprised the following day by a new low.
JaneZ
Can someone actually tell me what Obama "organized" in his years as a "community organizer"?
Seriously. What did he DO? What significant accomplishments were actually achieved by his direct involvement?
Obama supporters constantly try to impress me with this, but they never can explain what he actually DID. It's scary that they're so passionately committed to a candidate that they know very few details about.
* * NEWS FLASH ON CNN:
About The US Republican Party
Retiring Republican Rep. Tom Davis of Virginia may have put it best in a reference he made about the House GOP caucus this year: The "Republican brand is so bad right now that if it were a dog food, they'd take it off the shelf."
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WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
:)
Barack Obama:
Graduated from Harvard Law School, magna cum laude, with a Juris Doctor in Constitutional Law. President of the Harvard Law Review and later lecturer in constitutional law.
He later worked, yes, as a community organizer, and for three years as a civil rights lawyer. He has eight years experience in the Illinois (pop. 12.5 million) state senate, followed by 4 years in the US Senate.
Sarah Palin:
Graduated without distinction from North Idaho College with a BA in Communications, and minored in political science.
She spent some time as a sportscaster in Anchorage, then worked in the commercial fishing industry. She spent 4 years on the city council of a town of 8000, followed by 6 years as mayor of the same town. She was later elected governor of Alaska (pop. 650000) and has been doing that for the past 18 months.
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Please tell me how Sarah Palin is more qualified than Barack Obama.
Her 18 months as governor of a state that has half the population of Oklahoma City? That's right, the mayor of Oklahoma City has double the constituency of Sarah Palin, and you don't see anyone swooning in admiration for him.
Her municipal experience in a small town? If that constitutes relevant qualifications, then there is a whole nation of insurance agents and realtors ready to take up the helm of our great nation.
Really, how is this person qualified at all to lead the nation (since she'll be vp to a 72 year old cancer survivor, she's likely to be pres before 8 years is up)?
And you have no idea what a state senator does, or what the mayor of a town of a few thousand people does.
I have several friends who are or have been state senators, and with all due respect to them, they don't do anything but show up to cast votes when they feel like it, and sponsor a bill handed to them by a lobbyist when it benefits them.
One left the state senate to become state treasurer, and another is leaving to run for corporation commission.
State senate is a starting place to get your name out and run for another office. It's not real leadership experience.
I don't know how this plays out. Despite the apparently close ties to the secessionist Alaska Independence Party, the future son-in-law who stated that he didn't want kids, and some strange relatives who you think would keep quiet instead of talking to media the way they have, BBC shows a GOP that is positively smitten with Sarah Palin. I just don't get it. This is a sheeple thing, isn't it? God have mercy on all of us!
Seems to me Sarah Palin is giving sleepless nights to you and legions of OB followers. Why dont you get some medication or see a psychiatrist.
You aint seen woman power yet.
If those photos of her drinking
and shooting are legit it will be a very very interesting week in the media, and at the GOP convention.
Check mate indeed.
The problem for all you Republican haters suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome is that your party continues to nominate dangerous Marxist nutjobs with extremist views and terrorist supports for friends.
Nominate a decent moderate Democrat like Lieberman and maybe you'll finally get your wish of a Republican loss.
Just wait until the dirt starts coming out on Hussein Obama after the convention ends. This guy got elected to the Senate, gave $1 Million to the hospital that employs his wife, and they immediately doubled her salary.
Politicians have been indicted countless times - it's called using your office to enrich yourself.
And that's just the beginning. Don't be surprised if there are multiple indictments against Obama after all his dirt comes out this fall.
Seems to me like a panic attack for you and you little sheeple friends that follow your little card board greek column emperor. Must be having trouble adjusting to the thought of a future woman president.
You did the same thing to Hillary. Now you are after Sarah Palin. What do you have to say for yourself ?
Check out Gov. Palin's address to the Alaska Independence Party at their convention. The party wants Alaska to be an country. Leave the U.S, Ya! Just like the Old South! What an American! She was a member in the 1990's. I'm tired of the Republican hypocrisy!
http://www.akip.org/
Keith,
Mon frere....
Lincoln had about the same experience.
It's the values and brains that make the candidate.
Please, don't confuse polish with soul.
I'm not a McCain supporter. But just trying to keep it balanced.
Keith,
How many State Senators do you know personally? Honestly
I know many.
And you think they know what exactly??
Again, if you think being mayor of a town of a few thousand people is similar experience to serving as a state senator, you're deluded.
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Dude she is a governor. Man I know you libs are dense, but come on.
Republicans believe in Reaganomics - trickle down. They believe if they support the Republicans in power, they will prosper and become wealthy, just like the guys at the top. This is the lie they have bought. Because of how tempting this wealth delusion is, they still find it difficult to unwind themselves from this lie.
They also think the rest of us are stupid and they have contempt for us - they really do want us to think Palin is a replacement for Hillary. For that reason they are going to continue to spin Palin - not that they actually believe she is any good but because they think the rest of us are gullible fools and will believe them if they say they support her. This is not a new maneuver for them - think Bush's speech in NO after Katrina. Their objective is they just have to get us to believe she is someone that is really okay to vote for. That way they can stay in power and continue taking all the money - or so they desperately think.
But reality is catching up to them. I think the tide has turned - because of the blogs and the internet I think many people are waking up. There is chatter about Palin everywhere.
Either that or Republicans are just really stupid.
So are we now coming up with 'titles' for Obama to better him politically?
Community Organizer?
Sounds like someone who organizes the local block party, and who brings the potato salad!
Do any Republicans really, seriously want this woman to be president? And if so, why?
Illinois State Legislature's Schedule for 2008 was a whopping 70 days.
WOW!!
A legislator works for 70 whole days a year.
And here are some of the pressing issues they are dealing with:
SB5006: Amends the Illinois Vehicle Code. Provides that, if a damaged vehicle is obstructing traffic lanes, the driver of the vehicle must make every reasonable effort to move the vehicle or have it moved so as not to block the traffic lanes.
Wow!! Talk about pressing issues. Being in that state legislature and dealing with tow truck issues is definitely experience for dealing with Putin or Al Qaeda.
You're right Keith Obama is qualified after all. My bad.
DOPES!
Keep up the good work Keith. I agree 100% with everything you've said. But it's a sad day for America. After reading the rediculous comments of some of these radical conservatives I think America is definitely in the twilight zone.
Why does a city hall have to occupy 10 acres and cost $35 million dollars to build?!?
This is a perfectly adequate home for an unpretentious local government. It is admittedly laghably inadequate for any seriously self-respecting empire-builder.
As to Palin, time will tell, won't it, dear geniuses?
The Mexican...
I don't know what the big deal is, I think Sarah Palin in hot...I'd hit it.
So tell us Keith, what exactly has Obama accomplished that qualifies him to be President?
His legislative record: zip
His executive experience: none
His legal scholarship & writings: nada
His foreign policy experience: bupkiss
Where's the beef Keith? You rant about Palin's lack of qualifications and how that disqualifies her for the #2 job, but you're OK with blank-page Obama sitting as President.
WTF? Over...
So 1) Ms Palin is not ready for the presidency but 2) Obama is?
What kind of STUPID rational are we using here?
Yes she may not be a Mitt Romney but she will not be elected president!
Barack Obama could be ! And he is not prepared either.
It is all about stupid white voters that have so much white guilt that cannot see their candidate does not qualify.
I hope you get what you deserve!
Lieberman forgot that his new party is thinking of nominating the town dog catcher as VP:
"Eloquence is no substitute for a record — not in these tough times for America."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cvn_lieberman
from an article...
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The Case Against the Case Against Palin
A very good friend, who is a lifelong Alaskan and one of the smartest people I know, offers this word of caution to those (yes, like me) inclined to take Sarah Palin lightly:
At the end of 2005, a close friend called to say that he begun writing speeches and talking points for a certain gubernatorial candidate.
"Remind me," I asked. "Who is Sarah Palin?"
I was dismayed at my friend’s choice of political entree. Why was he wasting his time on a relative nobody, trying to beat an incumbent governor (and former three term senator) in the Republican primary? It was utter folly. "Wait until the big money starts coming in for Murkowski," I said. "Wait until the party machinery goes to work on Palin. They will eat her for lunch."
Murkowski, for his part, expressed a similar view. "If I decide to," he said, "I will run and I will win. It's that simple."
The folly, of course, turned out to be my own (and Murkowski's), as Palin slaughtered the incumbent in the primary--posting a 30 point margin of victory--and went on to win the general (over a former Democratic governor) without seeming to break a sweat. She then quickly fulfilled an implicit campaign promise by slapping down ExxonMobil, BP, and ConocoPhillips in negotiations over a proposed Alaska natural gas pipeline, even though they, too, by all accounts, were well prepared to dine on her tender little frame. Not bad for a lightweight.
Listening to the Democratic leadership respond to John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate, one hears echoes of the Alaska Republican leadership from just a few years ago. Barack Obama’s spokesman, Bill Burton, put it this way: "Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency." Former mayor? If you're going to skip over her job as governor and, before that, her job heading the commission that oversees production of the largest petroleum reserves in America, why not "former high school student"? Bah, what does it matter: She's just a small town mayor, just a hockey mom, just a beauty pageant queen. Palin has never shunned these belittling monikers, in part, I imagine, because the camouflage has served her so well. Soothed by the litany, her opponents tend to sleep too late, sneer too much, and forget who it is that hires them.
Watching Palin operate over the past few years has been like witnessing a dramatic reading of All the King’s Men. In 2002, Murkowski had interviewed but passed over Palin in selecting a replacement for the senate seat he vacated to become governor. In a grand act of nepotism, he chose his own daughter instead. Palin was tossed a bone: She chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which oversees the production of petroleum in Alaska. When she reported conflicts of interest and other ethical violations by another commissioner, she was ignored by Murkowski’s chief of staff and ultimately resigned in frustration. One can imagine how the quick double dose of corruption--insiders having their way with the polity and its resources--sickened the young Palin. It also fired a savage competitiveness that is not, perhaps, apparent at first glance.
What the Republicans missed about Sarah Palin then--and what the Democrats seem poised to miss now--is that she is a true political savant; a candidate with a knack for identifying the key gripes of the populace and packaging herself as the solution. That keen political nose has enabled her to routinely outperform her resume. Nearly two years into her administration, she still racks up approval ratings of 80 per cent or better.
One might reasonably ask to what extent her local popularity is buoyed by the high price of oil (and thus, a budget surplus, and thus, the ability to carry a stick into meetings with big oil). One might speculate about the durability of her anti-corruption stance in light of her conflict of interest in the dismissal of her director of public safety. And only the truly feckless would not concern themselves about her dearth of foreign policy experience. But in probing this candidate, it would behoove the Democrats and the pundits to shed the notion that they are dealing with some dimwitted bumpkin (Dan Quayle seems to come up a lot lately) who’s going to start crying when they ask her to name the president of Azerbaijan; or that Palin is the townie who was brought into the Skull & Bones initiation night for the amusement of all; or that somehow the prom queen ballots got mixed up with the Alaska gubernatorial poll. Trivialize her at your own peril.
Sarah Palin is a living reminder that the ultimate source of political power in this country is not the Kennedy School or the Davos Summit or an Ariana Huffington salon; even now, power emanates from the electorate itself. More precisely, power in 2008 emanates from the working class electorates of Pennsylvania and Ohio.
Sooner or later, the Obama camp will realize that the beauty pageant queen is an enormously talented populist in a year that is ripe for populism. For their own sake, it had better be sooner.
--Christopher Orr
I reiterate (fourth time?) that I accept Keith's challenge for $100 bet on the election.
Putting aside personal wishes and feeeeling, my observation is that this choice of VP makes it likely McCain will win.
regards
-evi;
As for Obama...
I wouldn't vote for a Guinea Pig or Lab Rat for President! Obama is nothing more than a social experiment. He's no President! He's no Hero!
I'm voting for McCain and I come from a family of Democrats!
You want to know why the Palin pick is so insulting to women (and men too)?
Because McCain went with the hot one. Not the qualified one. Not the proven one. Not the older one.
No, he went with the young hot one. Just like he did when he dumped his first wife.
Ouch. Truth hurts, huh?
behind the scenes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QevraCQUc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLlIgjZCfPs
OK, I'm a diehard Republican, and Sarah Palin is in no way qualified to be Vice-President. In fact, she is such a bad choice that I'm voting for Obama.
If you haven't seen it, the Sarah Palin Pregnancy Decision Map linked below provides good reading. She is either (a) liar (b) idiot.
http://tinyurl.com/65o7qq
Seeing Laura Bush defend Palin at the RNC with something along the lines of "Alaska is a big state in size" and that "criticizing her experience is elitist" made me gag a little.
The final paragraph of the twelfth amendment reads:
"But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
Therefore, the Vice-President must be constitutionally eligible for the Presidency. These requirements are that they must be a natural born citizen of the United States, that they be no less than thirty five years old, and that they have been a resident of the United States for at least fourteen years."
Nothing there about law degrees, millions of dollars, captain's of industry, military service etc etc. Hockey mom's are just as eligible. Our founding fathers kept it deliberately simple.
We have made it an unwritten rule to "have experience", after seeing what people with experience have done I would be willing to give a shot to someone with not so much experience. How much worse could they really do? Government is a huge machine, they are only one cog in it. Our founding fathers built that system like that too. I would submit that the only one truly qualified for the presidency are those that have already been president.
So if you believe that one person can do a better job than another pull the lever, punch the card, whatever. Don't get to spun up that someone else didn't see things your way. That is our way. We have seen some pretty high powered smart experienced people eff up in some pretty stupid ways.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled FUD already in progress.
Great. We don't need presidents with experience anymore. Or good educations.
Hell, why have surgeons with experience or educations? It'd be much cheaper if you or I just started doing open heart surgeries after all.
I'm really starting to doubt the future of America. The level of ignorance - on HP of all places - is very concerning.
What ever happened to standing up for what was right? These die-hard GOP'ers are seriously amazing. McCain could have nominated a loaf of bread and they'd be for it.
Surgeons have a well defined track and milestones they must accomplish to become qualified for their profession.
Politicians have none. Look at the shrub, on paper he looks like a pretty good candidate.
Politicians don't necessarily need the kind of education/experience that a surgeon needs. (Nice FUD work there Keith.)
Define "good education" I work with PhD's day in and day out. Smart people but some of them couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.
I don't see ignorance per se, I see difference of opinions. Everyone has different things that matter or don't matter to them.
Ignorance is relative, I am sure to some of those PhD's I am pretty ignorant. To others I am a pretty smart guy.
Standing up for what is right, well there you might have an argument we have all gotten pretty complacent, a single vote doesn't seem like much of a course corrector. Perhaps it is not. We have dug a pretty big hole and we don't get out by continuing to dig.
I liked the Lew Rockwell article from a previous poster. It appeals to my overly cynical nature.
Also in agreement with other posters, we are pretty well screwed no matter what we do.
OK. So. Again.
I take the $100 bet on the election.
My belief is this VP choice makes McCain more likely to win the election.
regards
evil
The ignorance out there is seriously amazing.
I blame the failing American school system first. I blame a culture that fears science and belittles education. I blame a mass media that spoon feeds crap to a gullible and intellectually stunted population. I blame a culture that seeks to destroy the best and the brightest and reward the incompetent and corrupt.
America you have no idea how much trouble you are in if this continues. 51% of the country is leading the other 49% to ruin.
Will it continue? We'll find out in a few weeks.
One more thing I truly don't get.
McCain clinched the GOP nomination in March 2008.
And then he didn't choose his VP until a few days ago?
He didn't even have enough time to vet her?
I truly don't get it.
One of the weirdest episodes in American political history. And it's not over (yet)
Hey Keith! Great news... have you heard?!? Via Philosoraptor:
Ham Sandwich McCain's Actual Choice for Veep
John McCain has revealed that his apparent choice of Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential running-mate was, as many observers predicted, a carefully-staged hoax. "Yeah, right," McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said of Palin, laughing with reporters. "As if! What do we look like, a bunch of complete lackwits? You guys will believe anything."
McCain's actual running mate will be a ham sandwich.
The sandwich, said by analysts to be "a little light on the ham," has never held any public office and is incapable of speech or rational thought. It is thought that the choice will solidify McCain's credentials as a "maverick."
"John McCain makes decisions with his gut," said Davis. "That's what Americans like, right?"
Some Democrats questioned whether a sandwich was qualified to be the Vice President of the United States, let alone President if anything should happen to McCain, 72.
Republican spokesmen fired back that any attempt to criticize the sandwich in any way would constitute a display of bigotry.
"Sandwiches are as American as apple pie," said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers, "and it's just like the Democrats to attack them, and, by implication, our entire American way of life, and, by further extension, the very human act of eating, and, by even further extension, life itself, and, by extensive extension, the very concept of existence, both for human beings, and indeed, for the entire universe and, perhaps, even alternative universes."
He suggested that Democrats would probably favor some more "Middle-Eastern-sounding food," such as "kabobs or tacos or something."
GOP surrogates soon fanned out to cable news networks to sing the praises of the sandwich.
"This is a bold and visionary choice by John McCain," said Republican commentator William Bennett, appearing on CNN. "The trade in pork and pork products is absolutely central to America's military might and economic development in the 21st century. There is simply no better choice for Vice President, and, in fact, any objective observer must question why there is nothing made of pork--nor, in fact, anything that is consumable in any way--on the Democratic ticket."
Democratic Vice Presidential candidate Joe Biden gave the McCain camp cautious praise for its choice. "Well, at least it wasn't Mitt Romeny," he said. "I think we can all breathe a sigh of relief about that."
Oh yeah, by the way, Barack just broke the 50% barrier in the daily polls. Seems that Palin produces more than just a baby bump.
pop quiz HP:
This person was a 2 year governor before being picked as a VP running mate and who eventually became president upon the death of his running mate.
Tick tock
Tick tock
Tick tock
Pencils down.
Answers please:
Teddy Roosevelt is the answer. And I think he did pretty OK.
Now granted neither he or Palin did anything as extraordinary as organizing a community, but still....
Teddy Roosevelt was
* Republican member of the New York Assembly
* U.S. civil service commissioner
* Police commissioner of New York City
* Assistant secretary of the Navy
* Organized the Rough Riders
* Governor of New York
And again, Sarah Palin was in the PTA, was a sportscaster, was the part time mayor of a little joke town, and now governor of AK for a few months
Comparing Palin to Roosevelt is such a joke, I'm not sure why I even responded, but when I see ignorance in full flight I feel compelled to help
Sept. 2 (Bloomberg) -- The smart money thinks there's a better chance today than yesterday that John McCain will dump Sarah Palin as his running mate.
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``While it is rare that a VP candidate gets dropped, it's not completely impossible,'' said Ken Robertson, political betting analyst at Paddy Power Plc, a Dublin-based gambling company. ``Lots of our punters are betting `Shocking' Sarah's days are numbered,'' he added, using a nickname he came up with for the first-term Alaska governor.
The Republicans brag that Palin has "executive experience." Why do they not bring up the fact the Alaska is an aberration state (so is Hawaii for that matter)? Stop the madness, Alaska is NOTHING like the rest of the US. It is completely dependent on federal largesse (PORK!); it looks more like socialism than capitalism. And the oil industry... The oil companies have been issueing checks to each resident for decades -- is that mainstream? There are around 1/2 million residents in the entire state so of course the government is the smallest and easiest to manage and quite corrupt and dependent on federal dollars (even small town Wasilla had a lobbying firm that advocates for it in DC). This is not experience that equips one to be an executive of the U.S. which really means the "lower 48" as the Alaskans like to call those of us in the other states. Come on, folks.
charlottemom
Palin nails down the conservative vote. The right wing and "self-described" conservatives make up 60 percent of the electorate.
McCain will win. And then die in peacefully his sleep. The babe will be the president.
Get used to it.
Both major parties are a disgrace. We need to have a major third party. Seriously.
However, this blog is too partisan, worshipping democrats, praising the "Obamessiah"
Please show some honesty, and stop the partisanship.
BOTH PARTIES passed that disgraceful housing bill. Both parties allowed this mess to happen. BOTH PARTIES DID THIS TO JOHN Q. TAXPAYER.
From Byron York:
Had a long talk this morning with a senior strategist in the McCain campaign. I think it’s fair to say Team McCain is seriously unhappy with a New York Times story, “Palin Disclosures Raise Questions On Vetting,” which came out this morning and is driving much of the coverage of the issue. The story begins:
A series of disclosures about Gov. Sarah Palin, Senator John McCain’s choice as running mate, called into question on Monday how thoroughly Mr. McCain had examined her background before putting her on the Republican presidential ticket.
On Monday morning, Ms. Palin and her husband, Todd, issued a statement saying that their 17-year-old unmarried daughter, Bristol, was five months pregnant and that she intended to marry the father.
Among other less attention-grabbing news of the day: it was learned that Ms. Palin now has a private lawyer in a legislative ethics investigation in Alaska into whether she abused her power in dismissing the state’s public safety commissioner; that she was a member for two years in the 1990s of the Alaska Independence Party, which has at times sought a vote on whether the state should secede; and that Mr. Palin was arrested 22 years ago on a drunken-driving charge.
The story, my campaign source told me, is “materially false.” Gov. Palin, the strategist said, was subjected to a “complete vet.” “That included her filling out a 70-question questionnaire that was highly intrusive and personal. She was then interviewed for more than three hours by A.B. Culvahouse. There were multiple follow-up interviews.” (I asked precisely how many follow-ups there were, but my source stuck with “multiple.”) “There was a thorough interview process,” the strategist continued. “There was a public records search and political vet. There was a private life and financial vet. Everything that has come out was known by the campaign through the vetting process.”
Okay. What about particulars? The strategist started at the bottom and moved up.
“Todd’s DUI — we judged that to be immaterial to the selection process. The ticket for fishing without a license — we judged that to be immaterial to the selection process.” On the charge that Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party, the strategist said, flatly, “She was never a member of the independence party, because she has been a registered Republican.” (Later, the McCain camp put out a statement saying it had provided reporters with “ALL voter registration documentation” showing that Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982 and “has never been a member of the AIP.”) And on the issue of Palin’s daughter Bristol being pregnant: “John McCain made a decision that did not affect his decision-making in terms of her qualifications.” (As far as the allegation that Gov. Palin faked a pregnancy to cover up for her daughter is concerned, it appears the McCain campaign knew about it and looked into it, but never very deeply because it had been proven false to the satisfaction of pretty much anyone outside The Atlantic or the DailyKos.)
From our conversation, it was clear that the McCain campaign paid a lot of attention to the so-called “Troopergate” issue. After all, unlike the “fake baby” story that has preoccupied the press, it is a real issue involving allegations that Palin abused her power. Last night, the McCain campaign distributed a "background guidance" memo to reporters on the issue. In our conversation, the strategist recounted much of the substance of that memo.
“Of course this issue came up in the vetting, and this is what we discovered,” the source said. “The man who was fired has said on the record that he was never pressured by the governor or the governor’s husband on the issue of firing Trooper Wooten. The governor had a vision for how she wanted that department to be run. The commissioner had a different vision.”
“The reason that members of the Palin family were having discussions with the head of the state police about this state trooper, who was her ex-brother-in-law, was because he had made threats against the family. He threatened to kill the governor's daughter, her father, and her sister. He tasered her 11-year-old stepson. And that is why the Palin family was concerned about this trooper.”
I brought up accusations that the McCain team has performed a “legal vet” on Palin but did not perform a “political vet.” In addition to the accusation that Palin had been a member of the Alaska Independence Party, there were issues like her change in position on the “bridge to nowhere” and her support for raising sales taxes in Wasilla, Alaska. “Change on the ‘bridge to nowhere?’” my source asked. “Are you saying there’s somebody out there who believes that should disqualify her to be vice president?” Barack Obama has changed his mind on a few things, the strategist added. As for sales taxes in Wasilla, the source said, “Every aspect of her political record is known to us. These people [McCain’s opponents] are desperate.”
As for what materials the campaign examined in the vetting, the source told me they checked out (almost) everything. “The only thing the campaign did not look at was the microfilm of the local newspaper, because it was impossible to look at the microfilm without revealing the search process,” the strategist said. “We made a calculation that we would be able to get all the information from the Anchorage newspaper, that it was unlikely that there would be items in the local papers that were problematic that didn’t make it to the Anchorage paper.”
Ressurgent Russian bear and belligerant Iran fear McCain. After McCain gets in and Iran is dealt with militarily, we will have cheaper oil in the USA and Europe again. If Obama gets in and pulls out of the middle east, watch oil go over $250 a barrel overnight. By the way, Thompson's speech was awesome. I want him for SEC of Defense.
"Therefore, the Vice-President must be constitutionally eligible for the Presidency. These requirements are that they must be a natural born citizen of the United States, that they be no less than thirty five years old, and that they have been a resident of the United States for at least fourteen years."
John McCain was not born in the United States -- he was born in Panama.
"And of course, a US Senator since 2004."
Actually, he became a senator in 2005. And, in fairness, most of that time he has been running for President, how much time has he actually spent "in the Senate"?
And I think being the mayor of a town is roughly the same from a value of experience perspective as being in the state legislature - heck, there are 59 State Senators in Illinois.
Both candidates are fairly thin on "experience", but experience is not really an indicator of what kind of President someone will be. For the Democrats, it only became important when they realized there was someone else on a ticket who could be portrayed as having less experience than Obama, then experience became of paramount importance.
We will ahve to hear what PAlin has to say over the next two months, I would guess that 99% of those speculating, for example, as to how she would deal with a summit with Putin have absolutely no freakin' clue how she would deal with it (admittedly, that might be part of the problem), they are just making assumptions based on no evidence whatsoever.
Can someone point me to a blog where people discuss the overpriced housing market and tenous credit markets?
C'mon Keith. Are you just realizing what ignorant nutjobs conservatives and republicans are?? Kinda makes all that "both parties are the same" stuff seem a little forced.
My advice to you: Stay in Europe. This country hasn't got a prayer with all the brainstems that inhabit it. You've been gone for a while now, you've seen what a real culture is like, a culture with a much smaller percentage of white trash conservatism. I envy you. If I could afford to I'd renounce my citizenship and leave this cesspool of a country.
Come now, my confused and frightened friends, no one said late stage capitalism would be fun. It was a good ride for most of us, even if we did need to stay in the shallow end of the pool. Like any party, only the drunks are left at the end.
kakistocracy (kăk'ĭ-stŏk'rə-sē, kä'kĭ-)
n., pl. -cies.
Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.
[Greek kakistos, worst, superlative of kakos, bad; see caco– + –CRACY.]
Keith,
Excellent post. But as an avid Michigan football fan, by selecting that particular "Hail Mary" link, you ripped my heart out like an Aztec medicine man!
Next time use the Doug Flutie Hail Mary Link vs. the Miami (Fla.) convicts from 1984. Thanks!
I thought Frank "I Hate Scottsdale" was leaving this site for good?
Why can't Republicans keep thier promises?
Hey fellows, can we bash the VP pick w/o bashing Alaska? C'mon, she's inexperienced, plain and simple.
Can someone point me to a blog where people discuss the overpriced housing market and tenous credit markets?
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housing doom is a good one
The thing about Sarah Palin is that she is high octane melodrama, all day long. It has been less than a week, and look at what we do know! She has pretty close ties to an Alaskan secessionist group, for crying out loud! Is she competent to lead the country? Who really knows? If the Bill and Hillary carnival wasn't enough, I think this will be simply quite the spectacle.
Republicans believe in Reaganomics - trickle down. They believe if they support the Republicans in power, they will prosper and become wealthy, just like the guys at the top. This is the lie they have bought. Because of how tempting this wealth delusion is, they still find it difficult to unwind themselves from this lie.
So if we take the money away from the guys at the top - you know, the ones who write the paychecks - then who will write those checks? Who will pay those benefits you demand from employers for free?
This issue shows that you libs have single-digit IQs. Your plan failed miserably in the USSR so how will it be any different here?
DOPES!
I love it! The Obama camp started railing on her inexperience...until it raised the topic of BO's inexperience.
The very fact that the Democratic presidential nominee has to compete with the Republican's VP candidate over experience is LOL funny.
This is great fun!! I see the liberals, socialists & democrats foaming at the mouths and going cross eyed. Their ultimate nightmare stands before them, and by their reaction,,McCain & Palin have a high chance of winning this one.
I personally hate McCain & Obama - two sleeze balls, but I will now vote for McCain for the only reason that Palin is his VP pick. I like Palin because she's unvarnished - raw and real, and is who she is. She IS the real working class American - not the socialist variety.
This is all heading to American street wars anyway, I'm just picking my side now.
But...but...but...Sarah Palin has a great body......and Republicans vote with their penis. So of course they will win this time without any help from the Supremes or Diebold.
bitterrenter said...
C'mon Keith. Are you just realizing what ignorant nutjobs conservatives and republicans are?? Kinda makes all that "both parties are the same" stuff seem a little forced.
My advice to you: Stay in Europe. This country hasn't got a prayer with all the brainstems that inhabit it. You've been gone for a while now, you've seen what a real culture is like, a culture with a much smaller percentage of white trash conservatism. I envy you. If I could afford to I'd renounce my citizenship and leave this cesspool of a country.
Dude, seriously, I doubt it would be difficult to get you a bus ticket the Fu*k out of here! Do you really think other countries want to deal with a lazy bottom feeder like you? Please, they export seat-fillers like you to us!
bitterrenter:
"If I could afford to I'd renounce my citizenship and leave this cesspool of a country."
Among other things you have now revealed you are flat broke. And you think your opinion is relevant?
A women of a baboon, which is worse? I'll take the broad.
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