May 18, 2007

If you could live anywhere, where would that be?


What's your favorite town? If you were retired, or didn't have to commute to work (or could work at home) and you could live where you want on the planet, where would that be?

Top 5?

HP'ers international - don't be shy. What's your ultimate city/town?

129 comments:

Joey said...

Currently I live in Santa Monica CA.

If I could live anywhere, my list would include Sydney, Bali, Singapore and perhaps Geneva/Zurich.

Amber said...

1. Washington, DC
2. Austin, TX
3. Boston, MA
4. San Francisco, CA
5. New York, NY

RAYNLA said...

.






Pheonix AZ...

Just to have a front row seat!

RayNLA

Anonymous said...

- Santa Barbara
- Malibu
- Barbados
- Irish countryside
- western Montana

Anonymous said...

Portland, Oregon.

A beautiful and still manageable place to live. Not sure it's still affordable, though.

Anonymous said...

Queen Creek, AZ
Surprise, AZ
Buckeye, AZ
Florence, AZ
Eloy, AZ

Anonymous said...

Vinnitsa, Ukraine

Never heard of it? Few people have.
Go there once - you'd never want to leave. There is now Italian community, Turkish community, German community, etc.

But why? WHY?

The answer is simple: stunning women and fucked up demographics: there are probably twice as many women as men in that city. They will actually compete for men.

Other than that (as if weren't enough):

1. You can rent a two bedroom appartment complete with sauna and jacuzzi for $300 - 350 a month.

2. Better food and better selection of it.

3. Amazing restaurants and nightclubs.

4. Money and connections will solve pretty much any problem.

5. No PC, no feminism, no affirmitive action.

6. You can smoke and drink anywhere you want.

7. And on and on and on....

Anonymous said...

any place in the world but Europe.
the European continent is disgusting.
it produces dumb people.
not sure if its the water, the air or its evil history.

Anonymous said...

I don't care where I live

Aaron Weber said...

I live in Somerville now and like it, although if I had my pick I'd probably spend winters somewhere warm.

Alternates: Charlottesville, VA (my hometown)
San Francisco, CA...

I like Barcelona, too.

Anonymous said...

I would buy beachfront property up in Northern California(by Oregon). Humboldt County is just beautiful. I should probably buy now since it doesn't seem like anyone really wants to live there yet and prices are dirt cheap for land.

Rordogma said...

I'm currently in Austin,TX...yee haw!

But here's my list...

1. Byron Bay, AUS
2. Garden Island, Fiji
3. Christchurch, NZ
4. Whistler, B.C.
5. Some Beach, Panama

Shawn said...

Chiang Mai, Thailand

Guy Daley said...

LOL

Phoenix AZ...

Just to have a front row seat!


Yeah, well make sure its during the winter. Otherwise it won't be so entertaining.

I spent three weeks in Mendoza, Argentina in March - April for research, to see if it was worth moving there. Nope, it only has two things going for it and that is cheap food and booze. Maybe the cheapest place in the world to be an alcoholic. 24 ounce bottles of Heineken for $1.00, Stella Artois for $1.25, even cheaper for local beers. But cheap food and drink isn't good enough to make the move. Its got too many other problems.

IF the amnesty becomes law I know I don't want to stay here. The government (on all levels) is corrupt and the populace is ignorant and apathetic but I guess that's a worldwide phenomenon anyway.

I'm going to check out New Zealand next although the US dollar is becoming worthless almost everywhere. I might be stuck in the US with the idiot hordes that think unlimited immigration is a good thing and where people actually admit to having voted for Bush.

I don't relish moving somewhere where I have to learn a whole new language from scratch. Wait, illegals don't, why should I?

Frank said...

Scottsdale, AZ. I bash the place a lot but deep down I really love it. The culture, the sophistication, the overall modesty of the place is what charms me. Give me Scottsdale or give me death.

www.scottsdale-doesnotsuck.com

Cow_tipping said...

Northern GA just under Tennessee. Motorcycling round the year, very low on national disasters and very low cost of living but high on rednecks.
Cool.
Cow_tipping.

tim73 said...

South Pole. Nice scenery, few neighbours and fish stays fresh.

Anonymous said...

Seattle or Vancouver area

Anonymous said...

Marrakech, Morocco

I would open up a riad (villa hotel) with a spa and rake in the dough from foreigners coming to visit on vacation. The Moroccan people are friendly, the shopping is amazing, and the food is mouth-watering in this city!

or

I'd leave DC and move to San Francisco..the only other place I am willing to live in the US.

Peter said...

Bunbury, Albany Australia

also Bordeaux France and Devon England

Phoenix Sucks said...

I say that Phoenix AZ would be the place to be. I want to put a big sign on my balloon in my yard. It would say I'm renting don't you wish you were too.
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH

Anonymous said...

1. Interlaken
2. Dublin
3. West Vancouver
4. Ponta Delgada
5. Bumf*ck, Ontario

Anonymous said...

Grand Case, St. Martin FWI of Paris, France ...

anonymous wimp said...

Didn't you post this thread already?

Anonymous said...

If I could afford to live wherever I wanted, I probably wouldn't - I'd just travel for the rest of my life.

If I was forced to settle down, it would be on a rural estate in southern France.

With the money I have right now, right where I'm at.

Westwood said...

1. Lille
2. Montreal
3. Toronto
4. San Diego
5. ?

Anonymous said...

Aix-en-Provence, France

kilgore said...

West side of Los Angeles - L.A. is the most underrated city in America, assuming you don't have to commute. It's got the best weather and the best music scene anywhere in the world. (I assume we're not taking taxes into account.)

g said...

Sydney, Melbourne, Thessaloniki, Florence, Auckland.

Or any other country that exhibits some faint traces of fiscal sanity...

Anonymous said...

Rio

Mort said...

Bum F@ck Nowheresville. No lie.

Anonymous said...

Glendale
Peoria
Casa Grande
Tempe
Phoenix

Anonymous said...

1) Paris (in the 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th arrondissement)
2) Prague in Mala Strana
3) Vancouver BC
4) Bend, Oregon
5) Brooklyn, NY

mendoman said...

Man, I just read a Forbes story about raising and crashing real estate prices. Lucky I have houses in two of the areas where prices are going up. One is Norfolk Va and the other, I hate to let it out is in Oregon. My top areas would be Northern California (over priced) and Oregon. Got a father in law in San Deigo who is soooo screwed, 2 helocs on a POS that I know the bank never saw. He is a contractor and things are SLOW and the wife just learned that her work schedule is changing(less hours) He is a blow hard Neocon, who told my many times that San Deigo would never go down in price. Good luck out there.

Anonymous said...

Humboldt county, Northern California, grow your own and live free.

Anonymous said...

Suburbs of Phoenix!

Contrary to (un)popular previously posted drivel:

There is a HERE, here!!

Heading to the pool now.

Bye

Anonymous said...

Sorry but I don't want a stampede of Baby Boomers and other American warmongers invading my five paradisaic locations.

There's nothing good that comes from advertising great towns to live, because all you get are speculators, inflation, loud and subcultural Americans, more traffic. I apologize Keith, nothing personal.

You guys deserve to live with millions of Mexicans giving crap to you in a daily basis, while taking your tax money.

Anonymous said...

Cheyenne, Wyoming

Flyin Hawaiian said...

Hawaii Kai, located on Island of Oahu.
Munich, Germany
Manhattan, NYC
Sydney, Australia
Rio, Brazil
Vancouver, BC

Anonymous said...

I'll tell you where I wouldn't live, and that would be San Francisco. I wouldn't live there for free.

Where would I live? Coastal Carolina (either of them)

wine country dude said...

Favorite would be the Napa Valley in California. Where I live, fortunately for me.

Re: your photo: I used to live in Boulder as a kid, and it's a nice town and a beautiful area. But the weather can be harsh, i.e. winter, and Denver is no San Francisco (40 minutes away from Napa).

txchic57 said...

Maui
Auckland NZ
Sydney
Hong Kong

Chris said...

Amber - Washington, DC as your number 1? Really? I live in that area. Some of the worst traffic in the nation, high taxes (esp in DC itself) and high crime rates in the District.

Not to slam your choice because to each her own, but why is that your #1? SO MANY better cities to live in.

Mark said...

1. Honolulu
2. Kailua-Kona
3. Current Residence in LA
4. Berlin
5. Tokyo

snapper_grouper said...

Mediterranean, Caribbean, Thai islands or Hong Kong

The Thinker said...

The San Francisco Bay area is my number one place to live because in the bay area, housing only goes up.

Anonymous said...

tonga

Anonymous said...

Can be happy anywhere. Nice shot of Boulder; I enjoyed living there. Also liked Santa Fe, NM, La Jolla, CA, Paris, France, but Bos-Wash feels like "home". Love the Big Apple and even Philly. Never been to San Fransisco, Austin, or the Big Easy, but I suspect I'd like them all. Europa is smaller, so why not pick a central city and train about. Medium/small towns have their advantages, especially if not too remote from major metro areas. How about no city - a country manor with exteneded family and several Greyhounds? Helicopter to civilization when bored. HAH!

Anonymous said...

In my VW bus

Greg said...

You've got to see this PBS video:

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/317/video.html

shtove said...

If global warming is a reality, then south-west Ireland could be the place to set up. Always beautiful, but with added warmth and sun - and still plenty of rain from the onshore Atlantic winds. So ... Skull, Goleen, Ringaskiddy, Clonakilty - all small towns on the remote, rocky coast.

But Barcelona is still the greatest city.

Anonymous said...

keith, post the pic of the sentoros
laughing on the Drudgreport...

insane... kennedy and mel martiniz are laughing uncontrollably about shafting the country on immigration...
hurry...before they take down the pic

DC Dweller said...

Keith, I would add one follow-up question. And why?

With people always talking about "culture" - let me tell you: At some point in your life you get over that, unless you are new to the area in which case you pick up on some of the vibes and the culture is important for "the travel experience." I live around DC (and have for many years) and I go to the museums sometimes with guests from out of town. But that would never keep me in DC! And would likely factor in between very very little and none at all.

And if cost of living is not important to you, you are either VERY highly paid (and don't care about maxing out savings) or you are retired. If the latter is the case, then jobs shouldn't matter either.

I am newly middle aged; I don't care about nightclubs, shopping, and museums. I don't think medical care or educational opps are that important - if you need some super special operation you can travel. I have no kids but I don't think that would matter either - home schooling and sending kids away to college are very good choices for their educational development.

So what is left that matters to me?

Climate, scenery/water/natural beauty, bohemian culture (hard to find anywhere these days), low cost of living, good diverse job base, moderate traffic (hard to find in any nice location and if you do - it won't last). Crime is usually localized so not sure I care, I would like to be somewhere with moderate to low diversity ( to remind me of my Rockwellian American childhood). Easy access to a pretty walkable downtown with live music and historic buildings would be cool on the few occasions I go out. Being a close drive to family is also nice.

So if money was no option: The coastal areas of California or any tropical paradise. I could fly home whenever I wanted. Or I would stay around here and live in Fells Point, Baltimore.

In the real world: I would say the New South.

Frank said...

I'm in my dream place: Newport Beach, CA.

Of course a bunch of people will object that it's expensive and traffic is bad, but neither of those two issues are of concern to me since I don't work, so it's paradise.

To the person who said "there's a HERE here in the suburbs of Phoenix," umm sorry, NOT. The only "here" is in central Phoenix itself (Arcadia, north-central, etc.) The suburbs are a brain-dead wasteland.

To the person who wouldn't live in SF for free: I'm with you, brother. In fact you couldn't pay me enough to live with those traitors.

keith said...

1) Detroit
2) Cleveland
3) LA
4) Tampa
5) Birmingham

Oops, sorry, screwed up my own question. I thought it was "5 places you'd have to force me at gunpoint to step foot in"

OK, here's my top 5 (changes a lot, but as of today - still have lots of exploring here to do, especially eastern europe)

1) Stockholm
2) Boulder
3) Florence
4) Boise
5) Rome

sojourner said...

1 - Berkeley
2 - Salamanca
3 - NYC
4 - Telluride
5 - Berlin

DaveO said...

I agree with the person who said that they don't want to advertise their favorite places because that leads to spoiling (via annoying speculators, increased population, higher prices, higher taxes, and more traffic) of those places. My favorite places all have these things in common: reasonable house prices for median salaries, medium-to-low population densities, medium-sized towns within 45 mins. away (towns of 10,000 to 40,000 people) but more than 90 mins. away from any big city, in the northern half of the continental U.S. (I do like snow in the winter), and most importantly, are not pretentious (i.e. full of yuppies), but yet aren't completely full of trashy people. There are quite a few towns that I just described in the interior mid-atlantic, midwest, northern plains, and northern rockies (and front-range towns). I could easily list the exact towns that I'm thinking of but, like I said, I don't want to spoil them. I hesitated to even give the general regional locations that I just mentioned.

Anonymous said...

1. Funchal
2. Barcelona
3. San Diego
4. Vancouver
5. Buenos Aires

Lost Cause said...

Depressing if you look at the listings in Westside LA, Santa Monica, Venice -- pretty much any house, $1 million to start.

Move on, nothing to see here...

Lost Cause said...

Actually, Detroit -- humm. These places are becoming low density quickly. You could probably buy acres in the heart of that town. You could create your own urban paradise, with no close neighbors.

Just sayin'.

Pop said...

"Sorry but I don't want a stampede of Baby Boomers and other American warmongers invading my five paradisaic locations."

I was all set and ready to move as soon as you posted your five top spots, anon. Oh well.

Anonymous said...

any place in the world but Europe.
the European continent is disgusting.
it produces dumb people.
not sure if its the water, the air or its evil history.

May 18, 2007 5:14 PM
---------------------------------

I agree. I think it's their lack of strong competition and capitalism. They have become very laid back and lazy. The house cat is becoming stupider through lack of having to use its brain to survive. Same thing is happening to Europeans. Their women are pretty hot though.

Mr. Vegas Sheeple said...

I definitely gotta say Las Vegas. Las Vegas is perfect for me. I'm a sheeple who can't think for myself. I can't hack it in a real city like LA, San Francisco, New York, or Seattle, so I move to Vegas for the abundance of service level jobs like blackjack dealer and hooker.

And, there not making anymore (shitty dirty) land here either, since the BLM is conspiring to constrain growth. I am saving up all my tip money so I can buy a house in beautiful Summerlin someday where all the "high rollers" live. It's the new Beverly Hills! Did you guys know Las Vegas has the most Starbucks per capita in the US? WOW! That's because all the trendy sheeple like me who live here have no sense of culture. And if you try to be different we have strict hitleresque HOAs to put you in your place. Blandness rules!

Come on guys, there is no housing bubble, it's all in your heads.

serindippity said...

Sydney, AU
Melbourne, AU
San Francisco, CA (if I were rich and didn't need a job)
Buenos Aires, AR (if I didn't need a job)
Perth, AU

don't know about but heard good things

Vancouver, BC
Auckland, NZ

Anonymous said...

any place in the world but Europe.
the European continent is disgusting.
it produces dumb people.
not sure if its the water, the air or its evil history.

May 18, 2007 5:14 PM
---------------------------------

I agree. I think it's their lack of strong competition and capitalism. They have become very laid back and lazy. The house cat is becoming stupider through lack of having to use its brain to survive. Same thing is happening to Europeans. Their women are pretty hot though.


Don't confuse France with the rest of Europe!

Anonymous said...

dc dweller I agree 100% which is why I moved to the new south myself and is my top 1-5 of where to live; I live in a small town of 7500 give or take; the town is 90%+ white, crime is virtually non-existsent, scenery is gorgeous, air is clean, 4 lakes within 20 miles of my home, weather is nice most of the year, cost of living is 1/5 of what I left in mexifornia.

Like you I am at an age where nightclubs and trendy restaurants are no longer an interest to me.

When I see people listing Barcelona or SF or some other pretentious city I have to laugh. You don't want a place to live, you want a place where you can be seen. That's great when you're 22. At 40, not so much.

Anonymous said...

" txchic57 said...
Maui
Auckland NZ
Sydney
Hong Kong "

Well, we finally found out that txchic57 is just another oriental woman who likes lots of money. American sugar daddy in the works, perhaps?

Anonymous said...

"Not to slam your choice because to each her own, but why is that your #1? SO MANY better cities to live in."

Because he's another American who never travels anywhere and thinks that the US is the best place in the world. Maybe one day he will wake up and turn off the TV.

Anonymous said...

I've lived in many countries and in many American cities. In the US, San Francisco is the best city. Good job on keeping the Republican idiots from red states out of that beautiful and exciting city. Since the US is becoming Mexico, I'm living in another country.

Anonymous said...

When I see people listing Barcelona or SF or some other pretentious city I have to laugh. You don't want a place to live, you want a place where you can be seen. That's great when you're 22. At 40, not so much.

I doubt that you have ever been to Barcelona...

SF... too much fluff...

Anonymous said...

"With people always talking about "culture" - let me tell you: At some point in your life you get over that,

I am newly middle aged; I don't care about nightclubs, shopping, and museums. I don't think medical care or educational opps are that important"

Ahhh, the American way of living. You forgot to add that you don't care about having sex either. If there's a Wal-Mart, there's life!

keith said...

Agree - someone who says barcelona is "pretentious" probably just calls all cities outside of the US "pretentious" without ever going there or having any idea what they're talking about

Barcelona is a university town on the water. things are cheap and it's laid back

But it wasn't for me - I find the spanish cheesy, it was a bit bland, it had an odor, the old town was taken over by an endless sea of chain stores, goudy is overrated, and didn't like the food that much

there's better in europe. much better.

Anonymous said...

"That's great when you're 22. At 40, not so much."

LOL. You think that 40 is too old to have fun in nightclubs and eat at good restaurants? Ladies and gentlemen, I present you a red neck from a red state. I bet you don't have any sex either.

And he still criticizes European cities. Sure buddy, we can see that you are a globe trotter and a Barcelona expert.

Hayley said...

For me, I love NYC, but what I really wish is that I could vary my location/work seasonally and take the summer to play music and perform every night. To me that would be a well-lived, predictably unpredictable life.

Anonymous said...

Compton
Watts
East Palo Alto
East St. Louis
South Bronx

aim low...better chance of success

TM said...

San Francisco is an adult's playground, and I like that about it, but it's not really a self-sustaining city. Nobody grows up in SF, no children raised, no old grandparents cruising around doing their thing. Funny, I'm not a great lover of kids, but when they are nowhere to be seen for months on end, it gets depressing. And no old people at all... it starts to feel like Logan's Run.

On the flip side, any city that is billed as a "great place to raise kids" is usually insipid, so whatever.

Anonymous said...

Anywhere but Scottsdale, Arizona...

1) The World (Cruise Ship)
2) San Juan Islands, WA (in the summer)
3) traveling with a back pack and staying at Hostels
4) Italian NW Coast
5) Anywhere US tax free (maybe my own Island)


Small Hat

Mark in San Diego said...

Suprised how many people said San Francisco - I lived there 27 years, and the weather is cold and windy, and the city full of homeless peeing in my bushes!!. . .San Diego isn't much better - hot and cold running homeless, but the weather is better. . .also we essentially live in San Diego, Baja California, Mexico. . .but if you stay along the shoreline and never go more than 5 blocks inland, it is fine, and that is why I live here. . .Zurich (my other home) is nice, but cold in winter - so I come back here. . .actually, I like Kona on the big Island - a bit isolated, but in 10 years when I don't want to travel as much, it would be great.

Anonymous said...

If I could afford to live wherever I wanted, I probably wouldn't - I'd just travel for the rest of my life.

If I was forced to settle down, it would be on a rural estate in southern France.
________________

+++++Amazing! This is EXACTLY what I would do to, if I had the money....

greg said...

1) Victoria, BC, why not, I like it.

2) Amsterdam, it doesn't get any better than kicking it by a cafe and hanging out with backpackers all day long.

Oh, you mean actually live there? I think it would be okay.

3) Sapporo Japan. Lived there for a year, near the ocean, river through town, beautiful wooded hills and mountains nearby, not too crowded, great sushi, Susukino. Loved it.

4) Queen Charlotte Islands, Port Clements, again, right by the water, beautiful beaches all around, fantastic rain forests - nice.

5) Okay, so I want to hang around, check out the music scene and play guitar and make music all day long? Got to find a flat somewhere in London for that one...

Honourable mention - well, Barcelona and Vancouver cross my mind.....

Actually, if anyone knows where Sagres is in Portugal or where Chiang Mai is in Thailand, they are pretty cool as well, wouldn't mind going to those places again in a few years...

Anonymous said...

saw sword fish coming out of the sea at dubrovnk? had no sword fish for twenty years, seemed a darker blue sky??? loved the family house, mom and pop built, in the woods, on a lake, no neighbors in sight or sound distance, and the verdantness of the feilds we planted in multicolors in all seasons, then the tax and regulators came about and neo developers, that required higher fences and hedges as good fenses make good neighbors, as i recall, but that was not enough to deal with the tax and spenders,and regulators, do not think living there is affordable any more

Anonymous said...

sold it years ago, could not afford it today, and would not be willing to pay the tax...........

Anonymous said...

Kailua-Kona (or anywhere on the Big Island - lived there for 2 years and miss it every day)

Boston (everything you could want within a 20 min. walk)

Ottawa (most beautiful women in north america)

Marko

Anonymous said...

Keith I was the one who called Barcelona pretentious. I've been there and it is pretentious. And it is even more pretentious to assume that someone who thinks Barcelona is pretentious hasn't been there.

But that's par for the course on HP. Disagree with the party line and you are automatically
a) a rube
or
b) a realtor
or
c) a rube realtor

Anonymous said...

US - Pittsburgh, PA (YES, Really!!)
ALT: Metro DC (Old Town Alex or Bethesda)

Overseas: Wroclaw, Poland
ALT: Kosice, Slovakia

Anonymous said...

NEW ORLEANS
SAVANNAH
CHARLESTON

All the above in an 1860's restored mansion.

Anonymous said...

What is the new South vs. the old South? I'm Southern and I don't know what it means though I have heard it many times?


Could it mean Mayberry, North Carolina (all white, bland and boring as Hell, no historic buildings) vs. Vicksburg, Miss. (nothing but beautiful scenery, historic buildings) types??

devestment said...

I like Los Angeles. There is more money than is imaginable and I never have to stop to enjoy beautiful scenery. To contemplate verbal exchange with those I am not directly doing business with is frowned upon, this saves time and eliminates the risk of exposure. There are no surprises in LA; everyone wants to get the best of you. When driving you take what you want and leave the rest. Courtesy involves giving token friendship or a free dinner after a good business screwing. The place never closes, there is way more than enough to do, and if you can think of it, you can buy it here. Yep , LA is the place.

dc dweller said...

Ahhh, the American way of living. You forgot to add that you don't care about having sex either. If there's a Wal-Mart, there's life!

I don't think my financee would think highly of me going out prowling for girls dude!

I care about culture but culture is global these days - I read and rent movies, Tivo concerts/ documentaries, play guitar and paint. I care more about public library volumes and university access to books more than going to dance clubs and art galleries. And as long as I have high-speed access for research and online commerce, you are right, I can get everything else at Walmart. My financee may feel otherwise BUT I AM PROUD TO SAY - I AM NOT A METROSEXUAL. Maybe when you grow up, you will understand!

Anonymous said...

In a van, down by the river.

Actually, I'm all for the women in Ukraine.

Florida RealtorWhore

Anonymous said...

Compton CA
Detroit MI
Newark NJ
Dayton OH
Oakland CA

The places where real estat is still affordable.

Anonymous said...

PARIS, PARIS, PARIS.

I lived there for 15 years now I am in Victoria BC which is becoming a toilet.

Anonymous said...

Barcelona is a university town on the water. things are cheap and it's laid back

But it wasn't for me - I find the spanish cheesy, it was a bit bland, it had an odor, the old town was taken over by an endless sea of chain stores, goudy is overrated, and didn't like the food that much

there's better in europe. much better.


Spanish are a bit cheesy and there sure may be some odor in the old part of Barcelona (as in any large mediterranean city) but "bland" is definitelly not true for Barcelona and Gaudi is fucking awesome! Well people have different tastes...

Funchal is still the best ;)

Stockholm? Nice but cold... I hate cold weather.

Generally, Europe is much nicer than anything in North America. If you want to start a business though, then USA or Canada are a much better choice.

Shak back at the Death Star said...

I would live in TRONA! YEAH BABY!!

stubbs said...

There's something seriously wrong with this "poll" because my city wasn't mentioned once and I've heard a million times that EVERYONE wants to live here.... :)

TM said...

I can't take spaniards seriously. They way they thpeak their thpanith crackth me up.

dc dweller said...

I am what you are
and you are
what we are
so there

dc dweller said...

Smokin the dragon baby!

Anonymous said...

I am thinking that the former rust belt cities will do well in the next couple of years and see an resurgence as housing in every other formerly "cool" city the reach of most. Why the fuck not as you can buy a sweet, sweet victorian mansion, bungalow or former warehouse for 120-150K and ive in a low rent town that has great architecture (everything was built in the late 1800's early 1900's, good, good beer, are great family kind of places and all still have good schools. So, in my view, places like Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo- anywhere Upstate for that matter- and when it gets cold-you can go skiing,go to the bar with the wood burning fireplace, or just take a vacation down south. And, in the summer, you have your boat and summer home in the Adirondacks or 1000 Islands. To New South- New South eats a dick and always will- how's that strip mall bar and/or restaurant you've been hanging out in?

Anonymous said...

1. Cotswolds EN
2. Nice FR
3. Christchurch NZ
4. Okinawa JP
5. Melbourne AU

MGall said...

San Francisco-where I now live
Seattle
Hood River,Or
Copenhagen
London

RayNLA said...

Frank said...

Scottsdale, AZ. I bash the place a lot but deep down I really love it. The culture, the sophistication, the overall modesty of the place is what charms me. Give me Scottsdale or give me death.


frankie...

You must have never traveled before.


I think Southwest is running a special on trips to Detroit. The culture, the sophistication, the overall modesty of the place will give you death after Scottsdale crashes and burns.

Anonymous said...

I live in Portland Oregon, have lived here for five years. I love it and my only regret is that I didn't move here sooner.

If I was forced to move, I would try:

Victoria BC
Barcelona
Anywhere in Costa Rica

buyerwillepb said...

Palma de Mallorca

Kali ExPat said...

By the time I was 16 I'd traveled extensively throughout the US, of course that was in the 70s and the US more resembles a strip-mall from sea to shining sea than the cultures I experienced then...

Born & raised in Newport Beach/Huntington Beach CA, but the only thing I miss is the weather, IMO the place has gone to hell in a hand-basket as the City/County goobermints more closely resemble Housing Associations with a PTA smell around the edges - Although, the insane RE speculative culture and the ME, ME, ME! Pirates are my primary reason for hating that once Garden of Eden.

LA & SF are hell holes & have been my entire adult life, so other than SD, which is about to officially become Tijuana Norte, there's no where left in Kali except the Sierras.

Of course there's no where in Kali to escape the sucking sound created by third-worlders looking for a hand-out and the race-hustling, pandering politicians looking to get rich & powerful in the process.

The last ten years I lived in NYC (a biz opportunity popped-up) and made a fortune here, 4X what I made the rest of my adult life in Kali, but I absolutely hate the self-important, pretentious culture here, and despise the ghetto culture even more.

Top places to go when retiring:

1. Grand Junction, CO - On of the next fastest growing metropolis areas in the USA, should be a lot of growth potential there and it's isolated from the inbred idiots from the Left & East Coasts thus far...

2. Boulder, CO.

3. Anywhere in Hawaii

4. Austin, TX.

5. Jackson Hole, WY.

Anonymous said...

IMO, if you visit a city for a few days, as a tourist, it doesn't make you an expert on it. Another thing, it's very difficult to get to know a city or its culture if the only language you speak is English.

So Keith, aren't you going to learn another language in Europe? It's about time, don't you think? C'mon, you can do it. I know that you can get by in Europe by speaking English only, but it's never the same experience.

I learned my fourth language in Paris at Sorbonne. Beautiful city, lived in the 5 arr. (Quartier Latin), partied every night. If you ever go to Paris, have a dinner at Cafe Marli, which is located inside the Louvre, and ask for Madonna's favorite booth next to a glass wall with view to a Greek garden inside the Louvre, full of statues. Your jaw will drop. And try to go during Paris Fashion Week because the place is filled with top model babes. Also have a drink at Hotel Costes, while listening to Dj Pompougnac tunes...that bar's decoration is breath taking. Or have a drink at the amazing Buddha Bar, which has a cool dragon shaped counter on the second level. Musee D'Orsay is my favorite museum there, but make sure you take a class or read a book about art appreciation first. Prepare the wallet because Paris is freaking expensive. I know some brainwashed- Faux News-sheeple here hate anything French, but I had a heck of a good time there, plus the French girls are sooooo hot. I have been going back there ever since.

Anonymous said...

"I definitely gotta say Las Vegas. Las Vegas is perfect for me. I'm a sheeple who can't think for myself."

LOL. Make that any city in AZ, too.

Anonymous said...

So relived nobody said Florida--there is hope for you guys! Barcelona pretentious--sure but will still take it over 90% of us cities. Aussie cities the best!

Anonymous said...

I've lived in SoCal all my life. I've traveled all over the world and while it's great to see new places and meet new people, I can't imagine living anywhere else. Sure Paris, London, Barcelona, Zurich et al are great cities. Yes LA has awful traffic, illegals, smog, etc. I don't really care, it's home.

Anonymous said...

MIANUS..............CT.

Anonymous said...

I would love to be DEEP in Paris!

Or live anywhere in France!

Anonymous said...

If I were to move from where I live now on the beautiful Oregon coast then I would choose to live in the beautiful little village of Sneem, Ireland. AND I may have to. I feel like I am being
FORCED to emigrate from the land of my birth because it has become entirely too Judaized...meaning CORRUPT and FULL OF LIES.

Anonymous said...

There are no pretentious cities, only pretentious people - like those who are too good for Barcelona :P

Anonymous said...

Kosice, Slovakia???
I was there once. Old town was kinda nice, but the suburbs looked like a war zone!

Anonymous said...

"And it is even more pretentious to assume that someone who thinks Barcelona is pretentious hasn't been there.

But that's par for the course on HP. Disagree with the party line and you are automatically "

That's right. HP is not for the faint of heart. If you want to hear sweet talk, go see the idiot Giuliani. Now SFU:

d) Homedebtor-hamster

Anonymous said...

Never been to Barcelona, but have interest in pursuing a MBA from ESADE university, which has a campus in that same city. Anyone here studied there?

Meeting Ronaldinho Gaucho somewhere there would be a plus.

Anonymous said...

piggot ark.

Keyser Soze said...

1) Paris (Jewish Quarter close to Notre Dame) and I'm not Jewish!
2) Innsbruck or Salzburg
3) A Seattle Island such as Bainbridge or Camano.
4) SoHo, NYC
5) Hyde Park area of Chi-Town
6) Where-ever my beloved wife is.

Girl Guide said...

I am worried about these answers. I have read in our local paper that Florida will not experience a real estate crash because every baby boomer in the world is going to move to Floria when they retire.

I have to assume that the posters here are not baby boomers.

If you are a baby boomer and reading this post, please move to Florida as quickly as possible. Don't put it off a minute longer. There are plenty of new, vacant houses and condos ready for you.

The illegal construction workers, who lived 20 to a house, have moved out and those houses are vacant. Fortunately, the police bust 3 - 4 grow houses a week, so those houses are coming on the market as well.

You may have heard about minor crime, forced home invasions and armed robbery of small businesses, and deaths caused by illegals driving without licenses. But, that is just the cost of living in paradise.

So, baby-boomers, move here as soon as you can. In the meantime, I am thinking of moving to:

1. Taiwan. I love being a stranger in a strange land and I love the Confucian Temple in Taipei. The people love the USA and have statues honoring General MacArthur.

2. New Zealand. Just cause it looks wonderful in pictures.

3. Scotland. Probably Skye or one of the Hebridian Isles. Lived there once. Should have stayed.

4. Rome. The food is wonderful and it is humbling to be in a city with so much history. Sometimes it is good to be reminded of our own insignficance.

5. Everywhere. Travel around the world. Anyone want to join me? We need to see it all before the globalists screw it up for good.

Anonymous said...

I wish all you communists would do what Alec Baldwin promised to do but never did....get the fuck out of my country and go live in Paris or Barcelona or Australia. Before you do renounce your citizenship first.

Of course you will never do that. Instead you will do what every other anti-Ameican communist piece of filth does...stay here and complain.

Anonymous said...

1) new zealand
(if i could get in: preferably south island)
2) tasmania (if i could get in and be allowed to bet in running)
3) scotland (where i live at present)
4) vancouver

if language were no barrier:
1) north coast of spain
2) nw france
3) norway
4) northern italy
5) switzerland


if i could bet freely on betting exchanges:
1) north cal coast (a fair bit north of san francisco)
2) oregon coast
3) portland (already lived there)
4) seattle
5) western wa coast

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I wish all you communists would do what Alec Baldwin promised to do but never did....get the fuck out of my country and go live in Paris or Barcelona or Australia. Before you do renounce your citizenship first.

Of course you will never do that. Instead you will do what every other anti-Ameican communist piece of filth does...stay here and complain.

We will save you from yourself. Stay and fight!

Anonymous said...

Not in USA

Anonymous said...

Portsmouth NH. Very nice minus harsh winters. The coast of NH is great.

Bakadana said...

1. Brisbane
2. Miyazaki, Japan
3. Kona, HI
4. Cody, WY
5. Greer, AZ

Anonymous said...

I'm one of those who listed Paris and other such beloved cities. But yeah, at the moment I live in LA and I keep coming back to my particular neighborhood, which was great when I was a punk kid and great as a single guy and amazingly great as a parent of two toddlers.

The air is clean (unlike most of the LA basin), the parks are plentiful, the restaurants are great (plenty of fairly priced places with some of the best food in the world, from all over the world), and I'm in a walking neighborhood where lots of people work at home, so there really is "walking in LA."

Culture is what you want it to be. I don't care about a lot of official downtown culture (I'd rather listen to symphonies on my iPod while walking the dog), but having neighbors who do interesting things and can be trusted with the kids -- that's priceless.

Also, I rent right now, although I'm ready to buy when houses cost something like they used to six years ago: $125,00, as opposed to $800K.

Anonymous said...

Excellent shot of Boulder. Brings up college memories. Dreaming of a day when I retire and leave DC for a beautiful Colorado.

Line Properties Inc. said...

1) Sturbridge, MA
2) Sturbridge, MA
3) Sturbridge, MA
4) Sturbridge, MA
5) Fiskdale, MA

jenny said...

ANONYMOUS IN LA-- what neighborhood do you live in for curiosity sake? It sounds nice.