January 12, 2008

HousingPANIC Stupid Question of the Day


Why do you care so much?

Wouldn't it be much easier to just watch American Idol, take out a toxic loan on a home you can't afford, spend too much, run up some credit card debts, and leave the problems of America to future generations?

80 comments:

Anonymous said...

I wish I didn't it be easier

Anonymous said...

Because this is exactly what my parents did to me in 1990-1991, and then made mistake after mistake in the 90s.

They never recovered from it, and it almost ruined my brothers and I. I vowed I would never make the same mistake, especially since I have children of my own now. And, my decisions as a result of this traumatic experience in the early 90s have turned out to be a terrific contrarian play.

All of my investments are doing exceptionally well while I sit back, rent, eat popcorn, and watch the slow-moving train wreck.

One day, I'm going to trade my little basket of commodities, for which I paid a pittance, into a big house.

Joe said...

I don't really care about the housing crash. I have trouble working up any moral outrage over it. It's more like entertainment to me. I love a good disaster, and this one is hilariously hopeless.

Reading about the crazy things FB's do is probably my favorite part. They're totally nuts. I love them.

Anonymous said...

I think you will find that most people who "care" about this have already *been here & done this before*.

Like Hubby & I did in the 80's Oil RE Crash in Texas.

Glad as hell I sold in D.C. in '06 & put it all in the Bank :)

Now prayn' the Bank doesn't go bad....shesh!

Marky Mark said...

Let us just vote for the socialists of the democrat party...the government will take care of us all.

Bigger government is always the answer.

Marky Mark

Anonymous said...

I wish I did'nt but somehow I do and have all my life been responsible, but I feel alone, the whole world has gone mad. I am but a sole voice yelling in the wind.

happy homeowner in the stix said...

I'm not depressed about this....just kind of fascinated that it got this far, and I want to see how it all ends.

Besides, some of the nuttier things on this site really crack me up, especially the "troofers".

Ed said...

Brother trust me I have that thought every day. Max out the visa, buy the 120" LCD, lease the $800 a month BMW and be perpertually broke. Would be a lot easier than caring.

Although I do watch American Idol. Being financially prudent and enjoying mindless TV are not mutually exclusive.

desbtisslavery.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

I have a feeing another "Black Monday" is coming.

fish said...

Got young'ns to proect and educate! So maybe they don't fall prey to something similar in the future!

big n rich said...

It's pretty simple keith, I am not a loser and will be successful in this life.I research a lot and your blog has kept me on my toes and taught me some great lessons.

duuuuh said...

Ignorance = bliss

Randy said...

I care because sellers are ‘offending’ me with offensive asking prices..
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WTF…
I called an RE office about a property I found online, during the conversation I asked the agent ‘how firm is the asking price?’
He told me that I should give him an offer but not too low, because I do not want to ‘offend’ the seller.
Huh???
I almost fell out of my chair.
I see,… this agent is recommending that I possibly pay out an additional $200 a month for the next 30 YEARS, on the assumption that the seller has some serious self-esteem issues?

I care
I care
Until there is an open and free housing market.
Until the commie MLS system is gone
Until I can negotiate with the seller direct, without a greedy middle person who tries to steal (a fee/commission RE tax) from both sellers and buyers.

I care cause the REIC is hurting my pocket!!

Anonymous said...

ecause this is exactly what my parents did to me in 1990-1991, and then made mistake after mistake in the 90s.

They never recovered from it, and it almost ruined my brothers and I.

One day, I'm going to trade my little basket of commodities, for which I paid a pittance, into a big house.

The above comments are typical of today's American youth. Lamenting things could have been better had their parents not made "mistake after mistake".
Be careful! The best laid plans sometimes end up not working like you believe they will. There is this little thing called death, and it has a habit of coming upon you just when you think you have everything in the bag.
A guy lived with his mom into his 40s. He had 400K in the bank and was planning on living it up until six months before his intended early retirement he acquired a slight cough. It turned out to be terminal cancer and he was dead at 42 and he never had a chance to "enjoy" the fruits of his labor. You know why? He used to have a hobby at work. He kept a "death list". A list of losers in life which he predicted would die young. His fellow employees would gather round and laugh at his selections and the reasons why they were due to die.
Later, he discovered something. His list was incorrect. GOD PUT HIS NAME AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. As he lay dying in the hospital, he confessed to his co=workers who came to visit him that this was Gods judgement upon him for being so crass as to think he was going to survive those idiots who were living dangerous lifestyles off the job.
He had a brother. The brother led a wanton lifestyle and spent everything he ever earned and was totally messed up. Guess who inherited the 400K? Yes!
Kid, stop blaming your parents. They brought you into the world, they had the gall to challenge convention and raise the brat you are now. They could have lived better off financially if they did not raise children. Respect your parents for raising you. They are not to blame for financial mistakes and don't count on your "success" . You will discover that fact very soon.- One who knows.

Anonymous said...

Your blog saved my ass keith, thank you!

Anonymous said...

I have always cared but I am going to stop. Ron Paul was the best hope. He has the answer, maybe a better candidate will pick up the torch and run with it, but it may be too late by then. I no longer have faith in the electoral process anyway. So I will buy a little house when prices decline further and try and be happy for a few.

Edgar said...

I don't care a flying f@ck's worth. I enjoy the show. Bring on the pain!

devestment said...

Because I worked my ass of for my money and wont give up easy.

borkafatty said...

Actually I don't care...as a matter of fact...if rates keep dropping I am going to refi the house and take every pennies worth of equity out of it...Yup party like it 1999....sweet!..oh and i will invest it wisely.

Lady Di said...

Because I have a 6, 8 and 10 year old that I am raising, and
God D@mn if I am going to let them go down in a debt ridden shit storm.

I'm fighting this one until the bitter end, and I am taking no prisoners.

There will be blood. Oh yes, there will be blood....

Enorah said...

Because once you wake up, there is no going back to sleep, not anymore. This is bigger than housing or the stock markets or war.

There is a shift in consciousness happening and we are just getting started. Everything we believed to be true we are finding now to be a lie, everything we thought this reality to be about is changing. Everything we thought we are as a species is evolving. It is our birthright to be sovereign. It is our birthright to be prosperous, and healthy and joyful and experience a reality full of abundance.

The sleeping are waking and beginning to throw off the illusion of enslavement.

It's just starting to get good.

Wear your love like heaven people, this is not a drill.

Anonymous said...

I've learned more stuff on blogs than I ever learned in highschool.

Anonymous said...

"and leave the problems of America to future generations?"

Abosultely. Thank you for having and paying for and raising children. I hope birth wasn't too painful for ya'.

I look forward to them paying 60-85% of their meager earnings in taxes to support me in my old age.

I appreciate all the crazy, insane liberal laws I must obey. I appreciate my civil rights being taken away daily. I appreciate wacko politicians like Boxer, Feinstein, Pelosi and Crazy Queen Carol Migden. You are the Greatest Girls (well I think you ARE or began as feMALES?)

I do so LOVE Amerika. Please, please, mate some more and have many many more children we can enslave to pay for our mindless ignorant financial decisions and those of the elected class.

Joe Six-Pack reporting from the King of the Queens, San Fran Freako. Burp, fart, belch.

Anonymous said...

>> I wish I didn't it be easier.

I wish you would sign up for Remedial Grammar 101.

edd said...

Apollo-1; Challenger; Katrina;
RM Nixon; WJ Clinton;
GW Bush encore; OJ;
test rankings awful for decades;
crap food; obesity & diabetes;
Jaywalkees; gangsta rap; Jackass;
Beavis; S&L 'never again';
monster deficits in trade & budgets;
9 trillion plus "trust" fund debt;
bubble business crash of 2000;
see Enron, Worldcom, Adelphia, etc;
.
Gutted CIA misses AQ Khan, 9-11;
weak dollar crutch; MTV;
culture of neglect & happy talk;
Watergate; Iran Contra; CIA-Chile;
neglect & worse for first tribes;
Big Mac; Windows; Pinto; Volare;
Vega; Corvair; M-16; Hummers;
lack of nurses, pharmacists,
IT-techs, diesel techs, quality;
social promotion to illiterate life;
Katrina; Katrina; Katrina;
Times Beach; Love Canal; 3-mile;
MyLai; Abu Ghraib; no Kyoto;
Bhopol; unaffordable insurance;
forgotten ghettos; state courts;
neglect of wounded neglect;
babies handed a notice of default;
and …
and …
Any questions ?

suzanne researched it... said...

"Why do we care so much?"

I believe the average HP'r is the type of person that likes their "i"'s dotted and their "t"'s crossed. I think many on blog are perfectionists at heart that work hard. And they get pissed if they see others that get rich not "working" (ie building equity in a house that is appreciating for no good reason).

This perfectionist streak is another reason why the average HP'r carries little to no debt on a credit card. And it is yet another reason Keith and so many others are angry with the average American. They are screwing up what should be a great country with less than perfect choices (ie huge credit card balances, poor choices in elected officals, HELOC's for a big TV, etc)

And yes I tend towards being a perfectionist, so in this description I describe myself.

PS Malcom, great post on Detroit yesterday, so true. I only hope Detroit is not the canary in the mineshaft. I fear it is...

-SRI

Ponch said...

Some great comments here. I agree with many of them. I have much fears about protecting my wealth right now (I am an insane, awesomely free saver), I have much hatred for the corrupt system. But I have optimism for the youth, I love a good train wreck as well (and America deserves it so badly), and in the meantime I'm trying to not let the horrors of the world drag me down. Enjoy this stupid ass life...what a f'in' comedy we are in. Payback...always a bitch!

Anonymous said...

This is what the end of an empire looks like. The American Empire is done for.

Anonymous said...

It's time to kick out the Banksters, ban usury and bring the banking cartel that rules the world down to it's knees. The banksters have no place in the 21st Century:

http://tinyurl.com/ystpc4

Anonymous said...

"Because once you wake up, there is no going back to sleep, not anymore."

And it was a rude awakening.

I never wanted to be rich. My goal in life has always been to have everything I need and a few things I want, and I was quite comfortable with my modest middle-class achievements. I wanted to live my life, not spend most of it working my fingers to the bone to afford a bunch of meaningless material crap.

I lost my first (affordable) house and most of my money in a nasty divorce, and ended up starting over practically from scratch in my thirties. Sometime between then and now they changed the rules on me, and the career choice I had made -- which had always sustained a comfortable middle class lifestyle in the past -- was no longer sufficient to afford the mortgage on a middle class house without a drastic change in lifestyle. Hmm. Renter or mortgage slave, which should I choose?

Unless this market really crashes, I may never be able to afford a home again in the area where I desire to live. The people who are, are not really "affording" it either, but they chose the slave route because status is more important than quality of life. Or at least how I define quality of life.

While I'm quite comfortable with my decision to rent, because it really is the right one in this ridiculous market, I'm ticked off at the idiots that made it happen. It especially bothers me that my child will have to work twice as hard to achieve half as much as his parents.

In my area sales are slowing down slightly, but prices haven't dropped at all.

Stuck in So Pa said...

"Enorah said...
Because once you wake up, there is no going back to sleep, not anymore......"
===========================

That is the worst part, because now you try to get others to "wake up," and they roll over, pull the pillow over their ears, and snuggle in! It's the old adage about "explaining Einstein’s Theory to a ant."
Who is going to get frustrated and aggravated and give up first, you or the ant?

God, I wish I could go back to being brain dead.

So who's on American Idol this week, anyhow!

Anonymous said...

To be honest it doesn't make sense to worry too much about this because there's nothing you can do about it. We HPers can't change other people's behavior, and there are plenty of idiots who will march blissfully over the edge regardless of what we say. Keep yourself out of debt and other than that, sit back and watch the show.

Anonymous said...

Because there IS a solution.
(Even though our current US Government does not want a solution.) Hell, they dont even want to talk about the solutions. [except Ron Paul]
***********

RE: Everything we thought we are as a species is evolving.

The sleeping are waking and beginning to throw off the illusion of enslavement.

It's just starting to get good.

Wear your love like heaven people, this is not a drill.
**********************************

Scientists also now have 100% Proof that the human brain is ALSO still evolving! Oil and military industrial complex executives will be documented in history books as "bomb raids for increased profits" models.

NEW Amplified energy waves: "If you NOW hurt somebody, you are in the wrong!" World Peace Bro!" How many people will you INJURE today Mr Bush? Cheney? Enron? Rice? GOP? ABC? CNN? Countrywide? PNAC? Rush? USA Death Camps? ETC, ETC,

Love and freedom does indeed win, and IS the solution.

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:36
They could have lived better off financially if they did not raise children.
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You sometimes hear that from people. But there's nothing more empty, more sad than a childless couple.

Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
>> I wish I didn't it be easier.

I wish you would sign up for Remedial Grammar 101.

January 12, 2008 5:39 PM

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Don't forget, it's a world wide web asshole.

AmazingRuss said...

I care because I tried it the other way. Ran up all the debt I could in anticipation of the nuclear armageddon that never did materialize. Took me years to pay all that off.

I care because I took the time to see how much of my money was being eaten by interest payments. Payments to people who had borrowed the money they lent to me. People who produce nothing.

I care because a flood of easy debt destroyed the monetary incentive for being a productive person. It also destroyed the dignity of labor. Working to become a doctor or engineer was meaningless as debt driven inflation destroyed your earnings.

I care because I am finally after six years of madness seeing the proof that becoming skilled and financially responsible was a GOOD move.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
>> I wish I didn't it be easier.

I wish you would sign up for Remedial Grammar 101.

January 12, 2008 5:39 PM"

Well, teacher, if you think that's bad have you Listened to George Bush (aka: most powerful man in the world and decider-in-chief) Lately?

All people from Texas are stupid, just varying in degrees. Bushco is a Perfect BAD Example.

Anonymous said...

"Anon 3:36
They could have lived better off financially if they did not raise children.
----------------------------

You sometimes hear that from people. But there's nothing more empty, more sad than a childless couple."


Ridiculous post. Open the blinds and look out the window if you dare... There is a nation of sad people BECAUSE they chose to 'have children' and then NOT RAISE those CHILDREN.

We ALL SUFFER the consequences of poor parenthood and neglected, uneducatade and classless youth. We are doomed to live with and amongsth these violent mutt mutated offspring. The ONLY good thing is we can eventually get TAX MONEY FROM THEM.

Read (if you can) a Newspaper (just because the President doesn't bother to read doesn't mean you should) for evidence.

Still don't get it?

Seek professional help.

Anonymous said...

Maybe we should all just stop caring. The govt. has removed every single incentive for being caring and responsible!!

We decided not to bring kids into this world---it's all going to blow up anyway, and who wants to have to explain that to little Johnny??
Besides, kids are HUGE drains on the brain, fun and finances, and since we can barely take care of ourselves after the Beemer payments go out, we figure might as well party like we never stopped being kids ourselves....WEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

Party on Wayne!!

Anonymous said...

"But there's nothing more empty, more sad than a childless couple."

How insulting to the many people who are childless BY CHOICE. Not everyone is cut out to be a parent, and not everyone needs children to have a fulfilling life.

It's only sad when someone is longing for a child and can't have one. And who the hell are you to assume that someone who can't have children -- as sad as that might be -- is "empty"?

Reminds me of the nimrods who have their self-worth so wrapped up in their debt-trap houses that that they can't fathom that someone else might not share their bogus conception of the "American Dream".

Anonymous said...

What can you do but try to protect your wealth and go on with life? I read about it to keep up with current events and stay informed about my investments. Otherwise, why worry? You won't be able to change anything.

Princess Mononoke said...

>>>>You sometimes hear that from people. But there's nothing more empty, more sad than a childless couple.
January 12, 2008 8:18 PM

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Children ARE beautiful, innocent and full of potential, still connected to God!

However, I feel that there is nothing more empty, more sad than the MILLIONS of parentless children ALL around the World who NEED love and affection! Who would give everything to have a family they can call their OWN!

Anonymous said...

There are rumors circulating that CitiBank is on the verge of failure. If it does fail then it will be game over. The market will drop over 1500-2000 points in one day followed by a ripple effect that will lead to 10% unemployment within a month.

Princess Mononoke said...

Anonymous said...
>>>>There are rumors circulating that CitiBank is on the verge of failure. If it does fail then it will be game over. The market will drop over 1500-2000 points in one day followed by a ripple effect that will lead to 10% unemployment within a month.
January 12, 2008 10:20 PM
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Yes Anon, it is all too sad of a reality... the 'end result' due to their Irresponsibility, bad investment decisions, mis-management of funds, etc!

miley said...

Dear, Mammals:
(by design or evolution)
Your ultimate purpose in life is to reproduce.
Period..


The above statement does not apply to Monsters AKA Europeans.

Anonymous said...

Why I have DOGS and not KIDS--

1. Dogs never ask for money.

2. They won't ask to drive the family car and will never get busted with their Schlitz-Malt Liquor drinkin' friends at 3am, careening down the highway.

3. They won't be spending their milk money on a dime bag of kick ass chronic.

4. AND, if they get knocked up, you can sell the results........

(Well, maybe not on that last one--Don't think we could bare to part with any of those little fur ball offspring and bust up the family...would have to keep em all....LOL!!

Enjoy your weekend everyone~~

Edgar said...

But there's nothing more empty, more sad than a childless couple.

Nice troll! Kudos!

Anonymous said...

Oh MOMMY...
If Citbank fails folks, we have bigger fish to fry.

Stock up faaast on canned goods, generators, guns, liquor, ammo, and lube.

Goodnight Irene.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
>>>>There are rumors circulating that CitiBank is on the verge of failure. If it does fail then it will be game over."

Do Not Worry, Bank of America (or the equivalent) will step up to catch the financial falling knives, the New World Order will see to it... There is too much profit in keeping the mASSES paying toxic financing for everything from houses to fake boobs (tits, not human boobs.

FYI: The game is ALREADY over has has been for some time now...

Frank@Scottsdale-Sucks.com said...

There is a shift in consciousness happening and we are just getting started. Everything we believed to be true we are finding now to be a lie, everything we thought this reality to be about is changing.

I see this happening regarding the college education scam. Articles are beginning to surface in the MSM about how the new generation's endless college debt burden will leave them with zero disposable income for 20 years and will subsequently crash our economy.

My friends who went to college and laughed at me after I quit during the first year are all kicking themselves now. I'm financially free (have been since I was 30, that's 5 years now), and while I'm free and enjoying an awesome life they're still paying off student loan debt while earning sh*t salaries and paying a crazy cost of living.

Now that the NAR/REIC/mortgage scam has been exposed I hope the college scam is exposed next.

What's sick is that Congress keeps upping the student loan & grant entitlements, which in turn keeps the universities raising tuition at a pace that FAR outpaces inflation. If the stupid politicians would just cut off the grants and guaranteed loans already, the colleges would have no choice but to cut tuition.

But no, the politicians are getting their kickbacks and that makes them increase the handout money instead of investigation the higher education system for price-gouging.

Anonymous said...

You sometimes hear that from people. But there's nothing more empty, more sad than a childless couple.

OK, I guess you have no idea that there CAN be ways to be very happy and fulfilled in life in ways other than having offspring. You'll see that in speaking to couples who have, with grace, accepted not wanting or not being able to have kids, and instead use their energy and talent to contribute wonderful things to their community that otherwise would not have been done... and it turns out in part because they didn't have to worry instead about buying 'Webkidz World' garbage or cell phones for 8 year olds.

Also, I guess your kids haven't gotten into a whole lot of serious trouble for you to make such a blanket statement. My pal had a 14 year old who was involved with drugs for 18 months before he found out - and he's no dead beat parent, by any means. 3 years later the kid is on his fourth rehab center, presently costing Dad $80 grand per school year (yes, that's $80,000), not covered by insurance. He is broke, his retirement fund is ruined, and his marriage is strained. He begged for us to consider NOT having a kid, 'it wasn't worth it'. It haunts me to this day.

One other thought - the world over population issue doesn't help the environmental crisis that is rapidly becoming worse.

Yes, kids can be great, but please keep a more open mind.

Princess Mononoke said...

>>>The above statement does not apply to Monsters AKA Europeans.
January 12, 2008 11:15 PM
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***********Huh????*************

Anonymous said...

i didn't care until my daughter moved to georgia because she thought she wouldn't be able to afford a house in Calfornia. well I started looking at the real estate in georgia but blogs about "don't do it" started showing up. (don't buy a house) and it was then 2 years ago I saw what was happening. My daughter rents in georgia and I tell them don't worry about buying and don't feel like loosers if you rent. I just hate people thought I was a nut job 2 years ago and now what I was saying then they are talking about now. The second thing I talked about was the price of food and to buy gold once again I sounded like I should have been committed but the prices have shot up in weeks and so far they aren't complaining but they will. I learned alot from reading these blogs because they keep me one step ahead of what is coming down the pike so I won't be trying to figure out what the hell happened I already know. I just listen to the people I tried to tell when they complain and laugh to myself and say you ain't seen nothing yet.

Anonymous said...

re: not having kids

Yeah go ahead and have no kids everyone. The mexicans and arabs will have 7 each while us smart white Americans raise dogs and enjoy the carefree life of living in a high rise condo without the burden of kids.

In 50 years the western world will cease to exist.

Anonymous said...

Cause once you take the red pill the matrix fades away and you know a steak just isn't a steak anymore :(.

happy homeowner in the stix said...

You sometimes hear that from people. But there's nothing more empty, more sad than a childless couple.

Sounds to me like we have someone who really isn't all that secure with the choice they made to have/not have kids, and the only way he/she can feel better about it is to denigrate the other side.

Anonymous said...

"Somewhere over the rainbow the sky is blue"
Oopps I was just dreaming out loud better get back on the couch and watch football. Life in America is great.

Anonymous said...

"Why I have Dogs not Kids"

Thank you for the best laugh I have had in quite some time-that was too funny, and so true!!

-Detroit Dad who "has both and loves them equally"

Anonymous said...

I have given up making smart, financially-prudent decisions. No more delayed gratification, no more saving, I am going to party like it's 1999 from here on out.

The Bush Administration has taken away every single incentive there ever was to be a responsible, financially-prudent citizen. They reward those who make wreckless financial decisions, and punish those who knew better. When that gets too scary to look at, sell chunks of our biggest and once brightest financial institutions to the SAUDIs and CHINESE.......Beg for money and sell this great country off piece by piece, because we were too greedy and stupid to stop the madness, and the till has run dry.---Disgraceful dosen't even begin to describe it.

No wonder that in the next 6 months, millions upon millions of Americans will choose to walk away from their homes and mail in the keys....No wonder millions of Americans will choose to rack up every dollar they can in credit card debt and walk AWAY unscathed. ..they want to stick it to the man, and--well, you can't blame them!! So many will come to the tragic realization that if you can't beat em', JOIN EM. Get ready Corporate America......your chickens are coming home to roost!

Anonymous said...

I say-
"There is nothing more JOYOUS than a couple who is child-less by choice"!!!
They get to play Aunt and Uncle on the weekend, then fly off to Vegas for the Swingers convention.

Yippie Skip!

gamed elections said...

We have been played like a Yiddish fiddle.

The financial wealth of this country has been tranferred off-shore by a syndicate of foreign/domestic manipulators.

The system has been corrupted beyond any semblance of our forefather's envisioned republic with the money and power becoming concentrated among a select group of ill-intentioned bastards.

Anonymous said...

Anyone in this country who saves their money and lives frugally is a FOOL. People who live it up, carry lots of debt and then go belly up take from the first group I described.

Let's just say I live life to the fullest. I owe lots of money. And I don't think I can pay it back. But thank God for the fiscally conservative group, it is because of them I can live life beyond my means.

eric in vegas said...

"There are rumors circulating that CitiBank is on the verge of failure. If it does fail then it will be game over. The market will drop over 1500-2000 points in one day followed by a ripple effect that will lead to 10% unemployment within a month."

Don't worry, the US government will just pull a Northern Rock.

Princess Mononoke said...

>>>while us smart white Americans raise dogs... In 50 years the western world will cease to exist.
January 13, 2008 1:17 AM

You know there are white people all around the world, don't you? So don't worry your pretty little racist head.

The western world??? It was originally inhabited by several indigenous cultures before the conquerors came to this continent and took claim to the land.

Where is your compassion for humanity in general? We are ONE human race and we share ONE planet!

Anonymous said...

You know there are white people all around the world, don't you? So don't worry your pretty little racist head.

---

Yeah and in Europe the birth rate for non-muslims is about 1.5 per couple, even lower than in America.

The white race is doomed and you can take your flowery multi-culti bullshit and stick it in your ass.

Anonymous said...

Frank the college drop out speaks again. Hey Frankie baby, I went to (and finished) college. I had about $25K in student loans that were paid off 5 years after graduation.

I also got an MBA from a top 20 school, all paid for by my employer at the time.

I am 34 have $0 debt like you, like a great financially rewarding life as well.

But unlike you I have the capacity to make reasoned and informed arguments. That is what a college degree gets you Frankie. It's not about learning how to do your job effectively. No college class can teach you that. What college does is expand your world and your mind. I know to the feeble minded here that seems like crazy talk. Fine, go through life as an uneducated rube for all I care. Just don't play the I'm as good as you game, since you most certainly are not.

And unlike you I don't have to hustle my book and seminars on blogs. You are no better than the Realtors you hate dude. You're a fake trying to rip people off with bullshit promises.

Anonymous said...

Anon said: "I have a feeing another "Black Monday" is coming."



Same here.

edd said...

"…without the burden of kids.
In 50 years the western world
will cease to exist. "
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The horns of a great dilemma;
breed to excess, or not.
Demographic warfare is part
of World history, and is often part
of religious policy, or even the
realities of economics in the
toughest parts of the World.

This is partial cause for the Earth
being far overpopulated today; still proliferating far beyond sustainable capacity.
It's true that nations which breed
quickly tend to export their excess
and cultures to other lands, resulting in sometimes major changes to the receiving culture. (This is a covert policy for
some cultures.)

Internal or aggressive war, or a failed state, is sometimes incubated by the stress on resources, land, and wealth.

There is no clear answer I know of.
But I can't accept matching breeding for breeding unto
some Waterworld.
It's a race among knowledge, the will to sanction, and ultimate disaster.

SeattleMoose said...

I am cancelling Comcast. Other than the odd History or Discovery Channel show, TV (regular and cable) is a complete void and waste of one's life.

Who would have thought a hundred years ago that someone could be born and spend most of their life staring at a piece of glass and plastic, completely mesmerized, hypnotized, and addicted.

When you step back and look at it, it is like a cancer.

BananaRepublicrat said...

I care because we have an idiotic economic policy that is hell-bent on mindless, self-perpetuating production and consumption. We build over the best farmland in the world to build more worless crap shacks. We continue to feed dollars to the communist-industrialist slave masters in China, instead of preserving our national tradition of craftsmen, artists and farmers. We have ripped the spine from America's cultural heritage. Those centuries of knowledge are gone. We have gone from a society of shopowners, to shop watchers; citizens, to consumers.

We have colonized ourselves: raw goods go out (grain, timber, minerals, etc.) and worthless, indulgent consumer good come back in (frozen, individually wrapped PB&J with the crusts cut off--WTF!) then the money that we pay "them" goes straight out of town to XCorp's headquarter (via Bermuda tax shelter, of course.) And Betty Sue the 35 year old working-poor checkout girl/single mother-of-two gets her $7/ hour cut (probably spends 30% of it in the store and 30% on daycare.)

We have destroyed the America way of life because a faceless army of Suzanne's have told us that "we can do this." I'm not even sure what "this" is supposed to be or why we without fail do things that we "can" instead of what we know we should.

I care because I want all this to stop, I want a return to a responsible society and I hope that the housing bubble can make a big enough ripple to stop it.

edd said...

Before you give up cable, demand
an educational package, with news, science, history, Animal Planet, all three CSPANS, etc.; without the crap like MTV.

Also request learning-on-demand
services. Adults learning real
skills and information at home
is the only timely way to turn
the tide.
Better schools take too long.

Princess Mononoke said...

>>>The white race is doomed and you can take your flowery multi-culti bullshit and stick it in your ass.
January 13, 2008 2:54 PM

Trust me when I tell you that YOU will NOT care who (race) is lending you a helping hand in a natural disaster or crisis in general!

And God will specifically send the one race that you hate so much to help you!

Beignet said...

Who would have thought a hundred years ago that someone could be born and spend most of their life staring at a piece of glass and plastic, completely mesmerized, hypnotized, and addicted.

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Only since I've found HP!

Princess Mononoke said...

BananaRepublicrat said...
January 13, 2008 5:28 PM
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Great content! Well said. Thank you for recognizing where the problems lie.

Princess Mononoke said...

It's because of selfish and divisive thinking that problems exist around the World!

Race ~ Class ~ Religion ~ Power

Anonymous said...

Re: Anon 3:36PM

Oh great, now the religious nuts have got bubble! I'm sure your little anecdote actually happened and isn't pure fiction, eh?

Anonymous said...

"But there's nothing more empty, more sad than a childless couple."

Heh.

Anonymous said...

Oooooooooooooohhhh Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I see dark clouds blowing in just in time for Monday...
Oh what cotastrophe's await?!!!

Anonymous said...

Banks are going to fail and SOON. Bernanke can't save them all by forcing shot gun marragies.

Princess Mononoke said...

>>>see dark clouds blowing in just in time for Monday...
Oh what cotastrophe's await?!!!
January 14, 2008 12:37 AM
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Be careful what you wish for...