(Editor's note: We interrupt the housing panic tonight for world geopolitical 
discussion. We'll return to the housing meltdown tomorrow. Have a good chat.)
Iraq: Didn't threaten anyone, had no nuke capability or WMD
Iran: Publicly threatening Israel with destruction, hell-bent on getting nukes
Two VERY different situations folks.
Israel needs to let the bombs fly soon, supported by its allies from the air. Their very existence is now actively under threat. And just like the 6-day war, they are justified if they strike first. And it's now necessary.
(HP hint - sell that gas-guzzler and home in the exurbs as fast as you can)
Iran president sees "countdown" to Israel's end
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's president said on Sunday the Lebanese and the Palestinians had pressed a "countdown button" to bring an end to Israel.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who triggered outrage in the West two years ago when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map", has often referred to the destruction of the Jewish state but says Iran is not a threat.
"With God's help, the countdown button for the destruction of the Zionist regime has been pushed by the hands of the children of Lebanon and Palestine," Ahmadinejad said in a speech.
"By God's will, we will witness the destruction of this regime in the near future," he said. He did not elaborate.
114 comments:
0
0
0
What would the stock market do if Israel bombed them tomorrow?
Insanity
I say we nuke Jerusalem, Rome, Mecca, and Salt Lake City and be done with all this silliness.
$4 gas may seem cheap soon
Keith, I like your site but I deeply admire your moral clarity.
Dear readers, don't blame the jews for the corruption in our world. They stand simply for the rule of law and demand that rulers be held accountable to the same standards as everyone else. You can't legislate morality and you can't compel it at knifepoint either. Man may be weak and corruptible, but to blame the jews is to be the most weak and corrupt man of all.
Uranium enrichment by ITSELF is NOT proof of a weapons program. To make a bomb you need weapons grade enriched uranium, to fuel a nuclear power plant you need fuel grade enriched uranium. You cannot take fuel grade uranium and use it to make a bomb, that is just not physically possible.
There is NO proof Iran's enrichment program is for making anything other than fuel grade uranium. And even if it were, to make the needed material to make enough bombs to obliterate Istael would take about 10 years.
To attack Iran, Israel planes would have to either fly across.
A: Syria and Turkey.
B: Syria and Iraq.
C: Jordan and Iraq.
D: Jordan and Saudi Arabia.
If they did that without getting shot down, at least one or two US friendly regimes would be toast.
Finally, has the possibility that the Iranean leadership may actually WANT the US and Israel to attack them occured to you?
Keith:
By your (cough) "reasoning" the U.S. should have bombed the Soviet Union when Khrushchev screamed "We will bury you!" at the United Nations.
Keith, can you remember the exact moment you became a fascist?
What would England do if Ahmadinejad had said what he said about England and not Israel
Like "England will be destroyed" or "England will be wiped off the map"
Uh, they'd be sending bombs over tonight
Before 1948 America had lots of friends cheap oil in the Middle East.
Keith- this is ridiculous.
Iran does not have a bomb. Even if they did have a bomb, it would be a primitive one because it takes a long long time to successfully develop a nuclear warhead and then mount it on a precision delivery vehicle.
And the idea of Iran committing national suicide by nuking an Israeli city is highly unlikely- especially so when you consider that Israel has a force of 200-500 highly advanced nukes.
We don't need PROOF that Iran has nukes or is a danger to the world. We can just take Ahmadinejad at his word. Can't we just trust him at his word ... and then nuke the bastard.
Kieth-For the Greater Good of the world,meaning more peace,less death,better regional economics,better world wide economics,less terrorism,and more freedom for countries that want it,then I say collateral damage is ok.So Let IRAN ,and Isreal mutually destroy each other in a quick ,and relative pain free manner.I don't know how Iran feels about it,but Isreal loves to kill,and show off doing so.So I will be praying for Isreals destruction,they suck.
............and England sucks too.
Look ,Iran has no A-bombs,Their Prez's words are likely being shoveled into his mouth by the Isreali/US/English SpIN Machine,and our equities markets are well beyond overheating.They are about to blow off.Just like 911,when the Nasdaq,and Dow were heading to China.This whole thing is getting way too predictable,and the shysters aren't making the margins of days gone by.So by some coincidence there will be justification for tight monetary controls like,bank closures,suspension of trading etc.
And it's the new Boogyman of Iran with likely ties to Osamma Been dead Laden.
Baaaaa. Baaaaaa..
I wonder what Ron Paul has to say about Iran?
Here’s his interview on Fox News.
Here he speaks to Congress.
3 billion of our dollars in Aid
For this?
I want my money back!!
Why is everyone a Nazi?
I/we have to take threats seriously. If Iranians don't overthrow the mad man we have no choice but to assist Israel in either destroying there nuke plants or blocking off the shipping lanes so they have no gasoline to run the country. Why do the leaders of the world put up with this nonsense?
Yeah and Amenajad didn't get elected until after w invaded iraq.
face it
there are doomsday apocalyptos running wild and unfortunately in charge of both countries. our destruction is assured.
Keith if we went into Iran tonight, the same anti-war fucknuts you agree with would be up in arms for the same reasons...we're imperialists, we hate Arabs, no blood for oil.
I honestly can't see how you can be against the Iraq war yet for a war in Iran.
Savage is right, liberalism is a mental disease.
Anonymous said...
Yeah and Amenajad didn't get elected until after w invaded iraq.
----------------------------------
WOW!! You must be the stupidest person alive if you think he was "elected". Saddam used to get 99% of the vote too, as does Castro. The Syrian dictator just won his re-election bid with 97% of the vote too.
Moron.
Iran is Israel's war and we are her ally. Her neighbor is threatening her with immediate destruction.
Period.
Iraq threatened nobody. They had no nukes or capability to get nukes. They had no WMD. Invading them made absolutely no sense.
I'm not for a US invasion of Iran. I'm for Israel bombing the crap out of every Iranian military and nuclear installation tonight, because their President just called for Israel's destruction, which I construe as an act of aggression and war against Israel.
If Israel asks for our assistance, we should give it.
And we should get the hell out of that region except for whatever assistance Israel asks for. The Saudi's, Turks, Iraqis, Jordanians, etc can sort out their affairs.
“Oil is much too important a commodity to be left in the hands of the Arabs.”
~ Henry Kissinger
I think he meant Persians as well.
I agree with you Keith Israel should bomb the hell out of Iran but your logic is so twisted it hurts my eyes to read it.
And since when do liberal Democrats support Israel anyway Keith? Your masters at dailykos and moveon.org must be very upset with you.
The facts concerning Iraq, Israel and the US foreign policy in the Middle East are summed up nicely in this paper.
John J. Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago
Stephen M.Walt of Harvard University
The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy
And don’t miss Ron Paul’s video in the post above…
Iran president calling for destruction of Israel? SO WHAT!!!
WORDS ARE MEANINGLESS hasn't the internet taught you that much?
Anybody can say anything on the internet. So you take it for what its worth which is pretty much nothing in MOST cases.
The world is and has been full of fruitcakes and nut cases. Just ignore them. They will go away.
We've got infinitely bigger problems to be concerned with LIKE THE 20 MILLION OUR BACKSTABBING SENATORS WANT TO MAKE CITIZENS. Thats a problem on OUR soil, not on the opposite side of the world.
wrong... quit reading drudge headlines. first of all, he never called for "wiping israel off the map," that is a mistranslation. he called for regime change... SOUND FAMILIAR? now he is only saying israel's leadership is speeding up this process. go look for videos of him and rabbis embacing each other, they are all over youtube. just as the mainstream media lies about the housing crash, this too they have spun!
Just whack Ahmadinejad.
Dear readers, don't blame the jews for the corruption in our world. They stand simply for the rule of law and demand that rulers be held accountable to the same standards as everyone else. You can't legislate morality and you can't compel it at knifepoint either. Man may be weak and corruptible, but to blame the jews is to be the most weak and corrupt man of all.
oh shut up. they believe in the rule of law..? oh really.......go read the book 'supermob' by russo and come back and tell me about the rule of law.....
Keith:
By your (cough) "reasoning" the U.S. should have bombed the Soviet Union when Khrushchev screamed "We will bury you!" at the United Nations.
Keith, can you remember the exact moment you became a fascist?
magon, quit drinking that neocon republican coolaid for a few weeks and come back.....
Scientific facts. The technology to enrich uranium to 5% reactor grade is no different than that to 90% weapons grade.
In fact, in terms of energy input, getting to reactor grade from natural uranium is roughly halfway there than from reactor to weapons grade.
Iran has successfully tested launching ballistic missiles from a boat in the sea---(this is technically difficult because of waves). What use is this as 'defense'? None, really.
What use is it for a deniable first strike from "cargo ships" tooling around in the Mediterranean and Red Sea? Very useful. They already have good enough missiles to hit anybody they want nearby from a boat even with a nuke. (Shorter distance with same missile means increased payload capacity.) And the 'trail back' leads to the ocean .
Another issue is what happens if Iran nukes Riyadh and the royal palace and instigates a fundamentalist revolution?
Guess what---most of the locals in the Saudi and Kuwaiti oil districts are Shia, ruled over by a Sunni elite. Sound familiar?
What would England do if Ahmadinejad had said what he said about England and not Israel
Like "England will be destroyed" or "England will be wiped off the map"
Uh, they'd be sending bombs over tonight
June 03, 2007 8:48 PM
well saying something and doing it are two different things.....frankly i don't think those towel heads are anywhere near producing even a crude bomb...anyone with any knowledge about this, can tell you, that is exrremely difficult and time consuming to get to the point where you can produce nukes.....it simply is not something that can be accomplished cold turkey by any nation until after years and years of hard work.....
I/we have to take threats seriously. If Iranians don't overthrow the mad man we have no choice but to assist Israel in either destroying there nuke plants or blocking off the shipping lanes so they have no gasoline to run the country. Why do the leaders of the world put up with this nonsense?
ok , i might just go along with this under one stipulation....if israel destroys all the nukes that she possesses......which number about 400 now.......and/or if she allows inspection and comes under the auspices of the united nations just like everybody else.....then and only then, we can discuss what other countries are doing....
Yeah Keith, like the United States Propaganda Brigade really needs your feeble assistance.
Israel has the right to bomb Iran but the US doesn't and should stay out of it. Iran and Israel aren't my friends or enemies. If people in the US want to fight for one or the other, go over there and do it. The US Army is for defending the US and that's it. I thought some of the people on here agreed with Ron Paul's foreign policy but it looks like I wrong. And by the way, Iranian aren't Arabs.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/26/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iraq/nuke-program.htm http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/06/26/1056449368277.html I guess this is a another govt conspiracy.
Keith, glad to see your strong stand for support of Israel. I have found you, way far more often than not, right on the money with these political commentaries.
As much as I think the Israelis are mostly in the right, I don't think we should be involved.
The reasoning is simple: They chose to live there and continue to do so. Everything that is happening there is of their doing. Let them sort it out.
If they want to persist in their claim stake, so be it. It's not our problem and being sucked into this deal is making us enemies for no benefit on our part.
Iraq threatened nobody. They had no nukes or capability to get nukes. They had no WMD. Invading them made absolutely no sense.
You know... it's because you obviously have NO long term memory (like most of your US compatriots) that the government is as screwed up as it is.
FYI - during gulf war one, Saddam actually launched scud missles at Israel - some even had chemical warheads.
So... Saddam actually DID have WMD and attacked Israel. What did George the first do? He pulled his troops out of Iraq and told them to stay in Kuwait.
Now Iran... which has NEVER attacked Israel directly and where there is still no evidence of WMD should be... attacked?
Maybe you should stick to talking about Brittany, Paris or Lindsay... you'd make more sense.
As for attacking Iran... the sooner Israel does it... the better! I'm betting that Iran won't fire a single missle back - but will pulverize every refinery and oil field in the middle east (that's including Iraq and Saudi Arabia).
I'm just wondering what the world reaction will be when it it's $20 a gallon gas.
Who do you think will be blamed more? Israel and the US for starting the war or Iran for retaliating?
Now Keith, if we just try and understand him maybe he goes all warm and fuzzy on us. END SARCASM!
If I were Israel, I would bomb Iran into the stone age before this madman carries out on his numerous threats.
Yeah, right, words are meaningless:
Throughout Mein Kampf, Hitler refers to Jews as parasites, liars, dirty, crafty, sly, wily, clever, without any true culture, a sponger, a middleman, a maggot, eternal blood suckers, repulsive, unscrupulous, monsters, foreign, menace, bloodthirsty, avaricious, the destroyer of Aryan humanity, and the mortal enemy of Aryan humanity...
"...for the higher he climbs, the more alluring his old goal that was once promised him rises from the veil of the past, and with feverish avidity his keenest minds see the dream of world domination tangibly approaching."
This conspiracy idea and the notion of 'competition' for world domination between Jews and Aryans would become widespread beliefs in Nazi Germany and would even be taught to school children.
This, combined with Hitler's racial attitude toward the Jews, would be shared to varying degrees by millions of Germans and people from occupied countries, so that they either remained silent or actively participated in the Nazi effort to exterminate the entire Jewish population of Europe.
God will not cause the end of the world, nor is it written in stone, however, greedy men who make profits from stealing wealth or selling mass-murdering machines (vs. basic communications) will destroy many lives.
The good news is that US scientists have recently discovered that the human brain is still evolving.
1. The iraq war, screwed up long-term loss that it is, does give the US a nice strategic position to attack Iran...
2. I do not see how you can oppose the US presence in Iraq and support attacks on Iran... the only logical position is for both or against both...
3. a US attack on Iran might slow down their nuke operation, but it opens a whole can of worms that most sensible people want to avoid...
4. http://www.exile.ru/archive/by_author/gary_brecher.html
the war_nerd is a military analyst of the first order... his writings should be required reading for everyone writing on modern warfare... if anyone picks up on this, I will sort out his specific columns on the ME and Iran and post them...
Throughout Mein Kampf, Hitler refers to Jews as parasites, liars, dirty, crafty, sly, wily, clever, without any true culture, a sponger, a middleman, a maggot, eternal blood suckers, repulsive, unscrupulous, monsters, foreign, menace, bloodthirsty, avaricious, the destroyer of Aryan humanity, and the mortal enemy of Aryan humanity...
"...for the higher he climbs, the more alluring his old goal that was once promised him rises from the veil of the past, and with feverish avidity his keenest minds see the dream of world domination tangibly approaching."
This conspiracy idea and the notion of 'competition' for world domination between Jews and Aryans would become widespread beliefs in Nazi Germany and would even be taught to school children.
This, combined with Hitler's racial attitude toward the Jews, would be shared to varying degrees by millions of Germans and people from occupied countries, so that they either remained silent or actively participated in the Nazi effort to exterminate the entire Jewish population of Europe.
well here we go again. everytime there is a discussion about israel somehow the name hitler gets in the mix......ok here goes.......ready?
there was no holocaust.......now then.........get it? you see, if i lived in europe or in canada, i would immediately be arrested for denying the holocaust....you see , europeans cannot even discuss this matter wihout fear of going to jail....
now then, why is that?
1. The iraq war, screwed up long-term loss that it is, does give the US a nice strategic position to attack Iran...
fine, if that is what you think, then you go and send your daughters and your sons over there to go and fight in iraq and iran.......i mean, what is this insanity?
what is good for israel is not necessarily good for the usa. when are we going to understand this? we are two countries with opposing viewpoints. our constitution is very clear on all of this. our founding fathers were very clear on all of this. keep your nose out of other people's business. it is not our job to be the world policeman. our men and women should be home, here protecting this homeland. i could care less what is happening to israel. the people there now are not God's chosen people. these people there are mostly imposters. you all buy this bill of goods and buddy, you will live to see the fruition of this insane logic...and even now the four horsemen are riding at a full gallop.......
I say we nuke Jerusalem, Rome, Mecca, and Salt Lake City and be done with all this silliness..
you left out waco....
if iran has a bomb or wants a bomb, what difference does it make to us? many countries have bombs. the nuclear genie is out of the bottle now. the jews fear that the arabs will get a bomb, not because the arabs will use it against them. no they fear it because if the arabs have one, it will make the arab position much stronger in the middle east and the arabs will be much harder to deal with when they can trump the israeli bomb capabilities with their own. the jews have 400 nukes, and they have even threatened the united states with them before. it would be a good thing if people would read up on things before jumping to conclusions based upon silly media misinformation. to form a opinion based upon news information which has been spoon fed to us, is a very dangerous thing. one must dig and study on these things to know the real truth. the arabs are not the problem. israel is the problem. and until people realize that, then we are just pissing in the wind.....but there have been a few who have made their way through the mountains of misinformation out there, and we really know what is going on. our boys and girls fight this war, for israel, even now. it is easy to say, well israel is our friend and we should help her. i ask you. how many times have arabs been caught spying on the united states? and, how many times has israel been caught spying on the united states? how many arabs are in positions of high authority in our government? how many jews are positions of authority in our government? to say the arabs are a danger, is preposterous. now after 100 years of being screwed around, maybe they are now, and i don't blame them really. but when that little terrorist state israel was formed in 1948, the years of peace in that area, came to a screeching halt and this is all i know. at one time, jews, arabs and christians lived side by side and got along just fine. but now, no more....why is that?
Terrorist state Israel ??????
Israel is mine,
God!
"Iran is Israel's war and we are her ally. Her neighbor is threatening her with immediate destruction."
F...k Israel!
As far as I remember, Ron Paul doesn't want anything to do with policing the world, or taking sides, especially with evil-dressed-like-sheep Israel. Stop passing the Kool-Aid, Keith.
To attack Iran, Israel planes would have to either fly across.
A: Syria and Turkey.
B: Syria and Iraq.
C: Jordan and Iraq.
D: Jordan and Saudi Arabia.
--------------------------------
I would add:
E: develop a rocket capable of delivering a nuke.
Opps, they are doing just that!
Keith probably believes in the false "terror plot" to blow the fuel tanks at JFK Airport. Giuliani pals are doing whatever they can to elect him, by framing innocent people with an inexistent plot, which was told by low life criminal drug-addict-turned-informant. No explosives, no blue prints, nothing...and a drug addict is the "reliable" source that blew the "plot" right open. SURE White House, Giuliani, Israel, and Secret Society, we believe your pathetic story to fool the sheeple!
Wake up people!
Keith said:
They had no WMD.
--------------------------------
Tell that to that gassed Iranians and Kurds.
They had WMD before and were faking that they still had it.
Gee, kind of like Iran making noises about nuke technology....
All religious states should be wiped off the face of the earth ASAP starting with Isreal.
Jews
Muslims
Christian
Catholic
All are retarded backwards evil jackasses
it simply is not something that can be accomplished cold turkey by any nation until after years and years of hard work.....
---------------------------------
So, you are saying we should give them 10 years and then start taking them seriously?
Who do you think will be blamed more? Israel and the US for starting the war or Iran for retaliating?
---------------------------------
Easy, Israel and the US will get blamed no matter who starts it. If Iran starts it the US will get blamed for provoking them.
As much as I think the Israelis are mostly in the right, I don't think we should be involved.
The reasoning is simple: They chose to live there and continue to do so. Everything that is happening there is of their doing. Let them sort it out.
------------------------------------
How many more times are we going to try isolationism? Haven't we learned yet?
The US should be concerned in providing quality healthcare insurance to ALL Americans, not worried about what happens between Israel and its "enemies".
We have bigger problems at home and Ron Paul addresses them very clearly.
Vote for Ron Paul because he wouldn't give a rat's arse about Israel's BS.
Go Ron!
Wow, nobody gives a dam (including your Prez) about the residents of New Orleans, who are Americans, but somehow you guys are all sooooo touchy and concerned about Israel.
Also, nobody gave a dam when the injured American soldiers were sleeping with mold, rats, and roaches, at Walter Reed Hospital...but poooooorrr Israel.
You guys are pathetic. Karl Rove and Ruppert Murdoch (the evil Jew married to the Chinese communist) love sheeple like you. Keep on drinking the Kool-Aid...
The latest one is that myface.com (owned by Ruppert Murdock, your nice Jew) has been blocking users from posting Ron Paul add material on their pages. True story and it's exposed on youtube by a user who tries 4 times to post and gets blocked. Now Ruppert is buying the Wall Street Journal to spin the financial news to the sheeple, just like he does at Faux News.
I've never seen so many anonymous posts. Why are so many people scared shitless of having there opinions known? Hell, pull any name out of your ass, it still won't mean we know who you are but at least we'll have some idea of WHICH anonymous that we are responding too. I for one am tired of being goaded by nameless wonders so I will refuse to respond to any anonymous posts from now on.
Spineless wonders. Internet clowns. Find a rodeo or a circus to play in.
So, you advocate nuking Russia tomorrow I take it?
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/06/03/ap3782478.html
This is a religious war that islam cannot-must not and Will not win!
It was God himself who gave the land of Israel to Abraham, Issac, and Jacob and their descendants Forever.
Israel belongs to God and to His Chosen people, the Jews.
And God holds the future of Israel in His hands, and it will be a glorious future!
You poor mislead fools!
When you turn to the quran, you discover that allah told muhammad to kill and maim 'anyone' who did not believe in allah or in muhammad his prophet.
Jesus Christ 'Never' told his disciples to kill anyone.
When Peter attacked the Roman soldier who came to arrest Christ and take Him to the cross, Jesus healed the soldier- a soldier who later nailed Him to the cross.
That's Love!
Read Ezekiel 37:23-28
Count on it! God's love for Israel and the Jewish people is boundless for the patriachs' sake. This spiritual awakening, which is very clearly predicted in Ezekiel, is now beginning and soon will explode into a global reality. It is God's time to pour out the spirit of grace upon the house of Israel and the Jewish people!!!
I will bless those who bless you
I will curse those who curse you!
God to Israel
RON PAUL
RON PAUL
RON PAUL
.....YOU LEMMINGS ARE A BROKEN RECORD!
NO NAME RECOGNITION
He was chewed up in the last debate
I have a perfect solution for Middle East: Yanks, go home. Nobody likes you there except if they can use you as tool againts their enemies.
Israel attacking Iran would mean the price of gas could easily jump to over 10 dollars or more. Of course that would be good for obese Americans...
" say we nuke Jerusalem, Rome, Mecca, and Salt Lake City and be done with all this silliness..
you left out waco.... "
Don't forget NYC, SF, and Hollywood; homes of the secular humanist religion
The imbeciles on the left today are no differenet than the imbeciles on the left of the 1930s. John Kerry, John Edwards, Billary and Ron Paul are the Neville Chamberlain of today.
All we have to do is make nice with Iran and Al Qaeda and we will have peace in our time. Sure Dr. "9/11 was all our fault", sure.
As for the retards comlaining about $10 a gas, on a thread a few days ago you - including Keith - were saying you can't wait until $10 a gas is here. Make up your minds.
It's over. Amnesty has the green light. Well done votes of America. A FL Congressman sends IMs to a 17 year old, you turn around and put Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi in charge.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/03/AR2007060301455_2.html?hpid=topnews&sub=AR
No need to fight Islamofascists over there, they've already taken over the schools over here.
For one night, on May 9, the quaint colonial town of Amherst, New Hampshire, was transformed into a Saudi Arabian Bedouin tent community, with the help of 80 seventh-graders at the Amherst Middle School. The weather cooperated, providing 85 degree temperatures to give an authentic Saudi feel to the evening...
Flowing fabrics hung from the ceiling separated the family and men-only dining sections. The tables were set on large rugs and lowered so that the diners sat on the floor.
Only the seventh-grade boys were allowed to host the food stations and the Arabic dancing, as the traditions of Saudi Arabia at this time prevent women from participating in these public roles.
The same ACLU that sues if a kids says Merry Christmas on school grounds was of course nowhere to be seen.
Anonymous said...
Yeah, right, words are meaningless:
Throughout Mein Kampf, Hitler refers to Jews as parasites, liars, dirty, crafty, sly, wily, clever, without any true culture, a sponger, a middleman, a maggot, eternal blood suckers, repulsive, unscrupulous, monsters, foreign, menace, bloodthirsty, avaricious, the destroyer of Aryan humanity, and the mortal enemy of Aryan humanity...
"...for the higher he climbs, the more alluring his old goal that was once promised him rises from the veil of the past, and with feverish avidity his keenest minds see the dream of world domination tangibly approaching."
This conspiracy idea and the notion of 'competition' for world domination between Jews and Aryans would become widespread beliefs in Nazi Germany and would even be taught to school children.
This, combined with Hitler's racial attitude toward the Jews, would be shared to varying degrees by millions of Germans and people from occupied countries, so that they either remained silent or actively participated in the Nazi effort to exterminate the entire Jewish population of Europe.
Thank you for pointing out the obvious to all the morons who think "history" is something that happened last week.
When I see comments from these morons, it makes it very easy to see why we are in the shape we are today. No sense of history whatsoever!
tim73 said...
I have a perfect solution for Middle East: Yanks, go home. Nobody likes you there except if they can use you as tool againts their enemies.
Israel attacking Iran would mean the price of gas could easily jump to over 10 dollars or more. Of course that would be good for obese Americans...
Yanks go home until you snivelling jackasses need us to save your sorry asses from the next tyrant. Then we will be the bell of the ball for all you chickenshits!
Keith, you're losing me here bud. For example, Ron Paul wouldn't do jacksh#t with regards to Iran's "words of hate".
Let's cut the double-standards, ok? Israel hasn't be a sin-free child and they're not much of an "ally". Please remember that its the 40th anniversary of the Israelis' attacking the USS Lberty (how ironic...).
I'll still read your comments about the housing market, but your foreign policy comments are out of whack, certainly not Ron Paulesque.
Guy Daley said...
I've never seen so many anonymous posts. Why are so many people scared shitless of having there opinions known?
------------------
Hey Guy, why don't you focus some on learning some grammar first? There and their and they're amazingly enough are 3 words with three meanings. Look into it.
Another high school dropout online telling me how to live my life.
Anon said: It was God himself who gave the land of Israel to Abraham, Issac, and Jacob and their descendants Forever.
Quran says:
“Say: We believe In God, and in what Has been revealed to us And what was revealed To Abraham, Ishmael; Isaac, Jacob, and the tribes, And in the Books Given to Moses, Jesus, And the Prophets, From their Lord: We make no distinction Between one and another among them, and to God de we submit in Islam.”
quran quotes (c. 651 AD)
As Jews and Arabs are descendants of Abraham the land belong to both! Arabs-via Ishmael Jews via Issac.
Most of the armed conflict in the world involves Israel or the US.
Better to nuke the RNC headquarters in the US and the Likud party in Israel if you want less problems in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzNPZf-5aO4
Some more incite into the true nature of the israelis.
You can't legislate morality...
_____
Sure you can. That's why murder is illegal.
"You can't legislate morality" is one of the stupidest sayings of all time.
I say let Iran develop the bomb. Israel will take of the problem without any prompting from us.
We pull out of Iraq now, then put out the word that any nation-states who support terrorism had better hope and pray we see no terrorist acts on or soil nor against Americans elsewhere, because if we do, they will feel our full wrath, meaning that the leaders of those countries appearing on the cover of Time in their underwear would be one of the BEST case scenarios.
RON PAUL
.....YOU LEMMINGS ARE A BROKEN RECORD!
NO NAME RECOGNITION
He was chewed up in the last debate
_____
If that's what you think happened, you weren't paying attention, and you fully deserve another idiot President.
Let's blame the mexicans
Bitter Renter said...
Most of the armed conflict in the world involves Israel or the US.
Better to nuke the RNC headquarters in the US and the Likud party in Israel if you want less problems in the world.
You are insane. Period! Anyone that has an IQ higher than 85 knows Israel is the only democrcy in that part of the world. There are Arab politicians who are Israeli citizens in their Parliment. Can you name any Arab/Persian country that can say the same about Jews?
Did ya ever hear of something called World War II? 6 million Jews exterminated, so the Jews had the idea that maybe they needed their own country because no one else gave a rat's ass concerning their safety when Hitler decided to kill all the Jews of Europe.
By the way if you are still arguing about Republicans and Democrats you are a sheeple. Here's a clue, neither party gives a shit about you or your family, and never mind the fact that it's been Republicans who have traditionally pulled us out of conflicts that the Democrats started. Read some history already! SHEESH!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
Let's blame the mexicans
how about blaming the bitter renters?
http://tinyurl.com/2tlqqq
read about life in godless, marxist israel......written by a jew who lived there and left....
i think anyone quoting biblical scripture as a excuse for turning a blind eye to what is going on, is being totally intellectually dishonet and i say that as a christian man...
Independents are traditionalists.
Most of want:
1) the US to stop policing/ subsidizing the GLOBE.
2) sound economic policies, the same you would want for your HOUSEHOLD - no debt, no deficits, less inflation, less smoke and mirrors, more actual diversified sustainable production and growth
3) the government to work for AMERICAN citizens; close the borders, protect american workers/industries, stop weighing us down with taxes/regulation
4) the government to solve any given problem (without creating another one), quickly, efficiently and cheaply; IF THEY CAN'T - THEN WE WANT THEM TO DO NOTHING. dismantle ALL ineffective agencies and programs and ANY that has exceeded its deadline/budget.
5) the Gov to stop BSing your people about every frickin' thing; get American back to what it once stood for.
I know some of you will repeat the lies you have been taught about globalism or what-not. I have little faith in the future of this country because these are NOT difficult things to do and (decade upon decade) we can't do any of them! After all, we are only really asking our government to STOP doing things (borrowing, representing Mexico, ...) !
Oh well - I don't have kids. Thank God!
It is a verifiable fact that 6,000,000 did not die during WW2
Sure you can. That's why murder is illegal.
"You can't legislate morality" is one of the stupidest sayings of all time.
------------------------------------
uh, no you can't.
You can put guidelines in place and good people will follow them if they believe in the laws. but you cannot legislate a law breaker into becoming someone who follows the law.
Morality does not come from legislation. Politicians like to think it does and hence all the silly laws we have or have had.
Most of the armed conflict in the world involves Israel or the US.
------------------------------------
Oh man, another america hating lib.
Sure, you could probably bend over backwards and come up with some "six degrees of america" concerning armed conflict. But you could do the same with most countries.
Take Darfur.
Darfur is America's fault because we use so much oil. If we didn't use so much oil then China wouldn't need to feel that they had to work so aggressively to secure their oil supply which would enable them (China) to do more there without worrying about their oil supply.
"wrong... quit reading drudge headlines. first of all, he never called for "wiping israel off the map," that is a mistranslation."
Yes, That's right! The correct translation says he just wanted to wipe his butt with a map of Israel. Yeah, that's the ticket. He also blows kisses to all of the world's children and hopes Iran's capture of the nuclear "fire" will purify them all for the coming of the 12th Imam.
The guy is totally rational, no threat to anyone,; Move (On.org) along now.
You are insane. Period! Anyone that has an IQ higher than 85 knows Israel is the only democrcy in that part of the world...
oh please stop it. do you want us to swallow that swill. israel is a military dictatorship parading around as a democracy...besides do you know what a democracy is? it is a big difference from a democratic republic, which is what we are supposed to be....
no , israel is not our friend, but everyone is told to think they are.....israel spies on us all the time, they get the lion's share of the foreign aid budget monies....another words you and i pay for every israeli to sit on his ass in israel and complain about how nobody loves them....poor babies.......the jews started the naacp and the aclu......the jews want have been instrumental in taking prayer out of public schools and everytime they see the ten commandments on public property they complain about church and state and whine to the aclu to sue the offending organization...
right now, the adl is trying to get the new hate crimes bill passed which will allow the police to arrest you for hate speech , similar to what is going on in canada and europe.........
i say again, do the muslims whine about prayer in schools, do they muslims complain about the ten commandents being prominantly displayed somewhere, in what would seem a benign circumstance? hell no they don't ,but who does...?
our buds, the jews.....
right now the jews are using the christian people to dig their own graves by telling them they are God's children and that we should help them, etc....with one hand they speak of friendship and with the other , the take away your rights and are attempting to create a police state, in which free speech is throttled.
i higly suggest that anyone who thinks that israel is their friend, and that they are free people, just go over to israel and take out a Bible on the street and start reading it and see what happens...you will be arrested and you will be put in the hole to get your mind right about that kind of stuff....
look what they did to Mordecai Vanunu, 18 years in the hole for daring to speak of israel's nuclear ambitions...and he also said that during his incarceration, he became a messianic jew and once he replaced the demonic star of david with the cross he was treated much worse....
anyone should take a long hard look at what is going on and who is doing what before you make any blanket assertions that have no basis in fact....
When you turn to the quran, you discover that allah told muhammad to kill and maim 'anyone' who did not believe in allah or in muhammad his prophet.
Jesus Christ 'Never' told his disciples to kill anyone.
have you ever read the talmud? well guess what? i haven't either but it has some very disturbing things to say about Christ in it, if you must know. and since the talmud is the jewish holy book nowadays, one has to wonder, just who is worse? those who have money and have power or those who have no money and no power?
How many more times are we going to try isolationism? Haven't we learned yet?
can you name one time we have ever tried that? just think about it.....with this kind of foreign policy, we would not get mixed up in wars or be used as the world policemen....that should count for some savings right there.....
why can't we try it just once and see if it works.......?
Guy Daley said...
I've never seen so many anonymous posts. Why are so many people scared shitless of having there opinions known?
well i take it you have never felt the rath of bitter renters?
id ya ever hear of something called World War II? 6 million Jews exterminated
you mind if i ask you a question? how do we know that really happened?
>> "You can't legislate morality" is one of the stupidest sayings of all time.
That, and "cautiously optimistic."
Anonymous said...
You are insane. Period! Anyone that has an IQ higher than 85 knows Israel is the only democrcy in that part of the world...
oh please stop it. do you want us to swallow that swill. israel is a military dictatorship parading around as a democracy...besides do you know what a democracy is? it is a big difference from a democratic republic, which is what we are supposed to be....
no , israel is not our friend, but everyone is told to think they are.....israel spies on us all the time, they get the lion's share of the foreign aid budget monies....another words you and i pay for every israeli to sit on his ass in israel and complain about how nobody loves them....poor babies.......the jews started the naacp and the aclu......the jews want have been instrumental in taking prayer out of public schools and everytime they see the ten commandments on public property they complain about church and state and whine to the aclu to sue the offending organization...
right now, the adl is trying to get the new hate crimes bill passed which will allow the police to arrest you for hate speech , similar to what is going on in canada and europe.........
i say again, do the muslims whine about prayer in schools, do they muslims complain about the ten commandents being prominantly displayed somewhere, in what would seem a benign circumstance? hell no they don't ,but who does...?
our buds, the jews.....
right now the jews are using the christian people to dig their own graves by telling them they are God's children and that we should help them, etc....with one hand they speak of friendship and with the other , the take away your rights and are attempting to create a police state, in which free speech is throttled.
i higly suggest that anyone who thinks that israel is their friend, and that they are free people, just go over to israel and take out a Bible on the street and start reading it and see what happens...you will be arrested and you will be put in the hole to get your mind right about that kind of stuff....
look what they did to Mordecai Vanunu, 18 years in the hole for daring to speak of israel's nuclear ambitions...and he also said that during his incarceration, he became a messianic jew and once he replaced the demonic star of david with the cross he was treated much worse....
anyone should take a long hard look at what is going on and who is doing what before you make any blanket assertions that have no basis in fact....
Goofball,
I know history. I know who has done what to this country. Israel is a democracy, and a friend to the USA.
Meanwhile we have the Arabs and Persians who hate each other just a little bit less than us, but they have no trouble killing each other as well. When you have 50 factions of Sunni and 50 fractions of Shia' who in the Hell are you supposed to negociate with? We are dealing with a people who would kill a daughter or sister because she was raped.
Nothing but a bunch of blood thirsty Bastards who would still be living in the 13th century, but for the fact that they were lucky enough to have oil under their shithole countries.
Israel didn't blow up the Marines in Lebanon, and they didn't hit the Cole, and they didn't hit the towers in 1993 and 2001, and they didn't hit the Kobar Towers or the Embassies in Africa. You have to be a complete moron, and you are, to equate Israel with these rathole countries. I say let's kick their asses back into the 13th century and take the oil. They can kiss my American ASS!
http://www.serve.com/vanunu/
a warning from Mordechai Vanunu.
israel committed to nuclear war......oh my.....our buds the jews want to use nukes......
who do you think pushed the united states to use nukes on the japanese, despite, the fact that the american generals were steadfast against it? oh the jewish advisers to truman, who was jewish himself.......oh my....
all this talk about nuking this and nuking that......i will tell you all something right here and now. anyone that uses those things is a loser....humanity is a loser, the world is a loser. there can be no doubt...if you nuke someone somewhere sooner or later the fallout from that event comes home to you......heck , they still have radioactive dust blowing around here and there from nuclear testing that was done a long time ago....that stuff never goes away.....
Keith,
I thought this was timely. From Powerline:
Six Days, Forty Years Ago
Tomorrow is the fortieth anniversary of the beginning of the Six Day War. Richard Chesnoff, writing in the Daily News, remembers:
I was one of the handful of foreign correspondents who reached the front during that monumentally brief battle. I was in Sinai on the first day, then returned north and managed to enter Gaza just as that benighted city was falling to Israel's largely civilian tank corps. Then it was on to Jerusalem.
Like anyone who believes in the justice of Israel's existence, I was deeply relieved by its victory on June 10. I had heard the bloodthirsty Arab threats of a new Holocaust. I had seen the "Kill the Jews" posters in Gaza schools. I had seen the bunkers and mass graves that Israel had been forced to dig in expectation of invasion, if not defeat.
Yet, as we mark its 40th anniversary, it's become fashionable in some circles to rewrite the history of the Six-Day War. Radicals, so-called "humanitarians" and others who love to hate Israel now claim that what was essentially a war for survival was in fact just an excuse for Zionist imperialism. Even serious journals like Britain's The Economist say that while the war may have been necessary, it has ultimately proven "a calamity for the Jewish state."
We also got an email today from Hillel Zaremba of CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America) alerting us to a brand new web site, run by CAMERA: The Six-Day War. I've only had time to begin exploring the site, but it looks like a great introduction to the events of 1967 and their aftermath. Follow the link to explore The Six-Day War; here is what the front page looks like; click to enlarge:
My recollection of the Six Day War is that everyone I knew supported Israel and was gratified by its quick and overwhelming victory. This wasn't ethnic solidarity; I grew up in a town in South Dakota that had two Jewish families. Somehow there was a little more moral clarity then.
Anon said: When you turn to the quran, you discover that allah told muhammad to kill and maim 'anyone' who did not believe in allah or in muhammad his prophet.
Jesus Christ 'Never' told his disciples to kill anyone.
Obviously you never read the Quran. There is an entire chapter about the Virgin Mary in the Quran and she is revered by Muslims as the mother of Jesus. The bible itself doesn't even have an entire chapter on the Virgin Mary! Muslims revere the teachings of Jesus peace be upon him and consider him a prophet and respect his teachings of peace. http://www3.sympatico.ca/shabir.ally/new_page_24.htm
Anon Stop rehashing misinformation. Oh and most Muslims think Ahmedinijad's a nutcase also especially the Iranians who hate living under him. Get your facts straight.
Israel sucks!
Spectre of .... said: "Yanks go home until you snivelling jackasses need us to save your sorry asses from the next tyrant. Then we will be the bell of the ball for all you chickenshits!"
FYI, Americans did not won the Cold War by all by themselves. In Western Europe almost EVERY young man had to serve in their national armies from 50's to end of 80's.
Western Europeans were the actual first line of defense against Soviets with their massive armies.
You almost pissed on your pants when Soviets did install few missiles to Cuba, within 100 miles from USA. Buu-huu, that was NORMAL situation in Europe all the time. So shut the hell up.
Anonymous said...
Anon said: When you turn to the quran, you discover that allah told muhammad to kill and maim 'anyone' who did not believe in allah or in muhammad his prophet.
Jesus Christ 'Never' told his disciples to kill anyone.
Obviously you never read the Quran. There is an entire chapter about the Virgin Mary in the Quran and she is revered by Muslims as the mother of Jesus. The bible itself doesn't even have an entire chapter on the Virgin Mary! Muslims revere the teachings of Jesus peace be upon him and consider him a prophet and respect his teachings of peace. http://www3.sympatico.ca/shabir.ally/new_page_24.htm
Anon Stop rehashing misinformation. Oh and most Muslims think Ahmedinijad's a nutcase also especially the Iranians who hate living under him. Get your facts straight.
Read a document? I know enough by looking at Muslim's actions. You kill young girls because they were raped, you allow young girls in Saudi Arabia to die by fire because the men might see the young girls in something other than acceptable attire, you strap bomb belts to toddlers and young children in the name of your prophet, you put shows on the air that call Jews and CHRISTIANS pigs, rats and any other BS you cn think of, you treat women like they are a possesion, you use the Palestinians as scapegoats to keep a virtual war going with Israel even though the Arabs and Persians have made enough money from oil to long ago solve the Palestinian question.
Islam is a death cult. There is no beauty in a muslims world, only death and destruction. You celebrate death and not life, so please enough with the bullshit!
More from the Religion of Peace. Being a Muslim woman would really suck:
Gaza: 'Immodest' women to be killed
Jerusalem Post ^ | Jun. 2, 2007 19:00 | Updated Jun. 2, 2007 19:52 | KHALED ABU TOAMEH
"Twice in 100 years we saved your sorry asses so please enough with you had to serve in the military. You would all be practicing the goose step but for America."
Read your history again, boy. You did not save our sorry asses twice in the last century. WWI was between rather equal European nations and you choose to help out your old buddy, UK.
WWII was group effort by Allies (Russians, Brits and Americans). Russians especially decimated most of the German Army way before your Normandy invasion in the summer of 1944.
You participated but not saved our asses alone, you idiot. What they teach you at school in America? That world is 6000 years old?
Feds name CAIR in plot to fund Hamas - Prominent U.S. Islamic group designated 'unindicted co-conspirator'
More wonderful news concerning the Religion of Pieces and their enablers in America. (Love to blow themselves and others into little itty bitty pieces.}
tim73 said...
"Twice in 100 years we saved your sorry asses so please enough with you had to serve in the military. You would all be practicing the goose step but for America."
Read your history again, boy. You did not save our sorry asses twice in the last century. WWI was between rather equal European nations and you choose to help out your old buddy, UK.
WWII was group effort by Allies (Russians, Brits and Americans). Russians especially decimated most of the German Army way before your Normandy invasion in the summer of 1944.
You participated but not saved our asses alone, you idiot. What they teach you at school in America? That world is 6000 years old?
But for us you would be doing the goose step. PERIOD! Even before we entered the war, but for all the supplies we sent you, remember the Lend-Lease Deal, you would have had your asses completely kicked.
What you did have was a bunch of pompous Generals and Admirals who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. And can we ever forget your brilliant statesman Chaimberlan who wanted to change the flag of England to pure white with a long pole so the Germans wouldn't miss it?
We haven't mentioned the Pacific theatre yet, so let's remember that you were on the run and finished until the Japaneese bombed Pearl Harbor. The Bataan Death March comes to mind, and let me throw in Dunkirk in Europe where you made a big deal out of getting your asses handed to you while being driven to the English Channel.
Only Euro weanies could make such a big deal out of an outright defeat, but it's all ya had to run with.
Anonymous said...
id ya ever hear of something called World War II? 6 million Jews exterminated
you mind if i ask you a question? how do we know that really happened?
Sounds like you may have attended the Holocaust conference in Iran. Did you and the other fascists have a good time rewriting history?
"What you did have was a bunch of pompous Generals and Admirals who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. "
Battle of England, ring a bell?! Not much help from you, yanks. You did get serious only after Pearl Harbour.
You should really read the history of WWII again because you do not know shit about it.
All I know is that Bush and Cheney are WAAAAAAY out of control!!!
Period.
Their "911 fake attack" will come back and haunt them to their graves.
In 1967, Israel conquered still more land. Following the Six Day War, in which Israeli forces launched a highly successful, Pearl Harbor-like surprise attack on Egypt, Israel occupied the additional 22 percent of Palestine that had eluded it in 1948 — the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. It also occupied parts of Egypt (which since were returned) and Syria (which remain under occupation).
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/
tim73 said...
"What you did have was a bunch of pompous Generals and Admirals who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. "
Battle of England, ring a bell?! Not much help from you, yanks. You did get serious only after Pearl Harbour.
You should really read the history of WWII again because you do not know shit about it.
LOL! I don't know shit about ha? The Battle of Britain was won over the skies of England because of a terrible blunder on Hitler's part. They were shooting Brits out of the sky like fish in a barrel, and the British forces would have been completely depleted save for Hitler demanding that Goering stop hitting military airfields and military targets, including early radar sites, and switch to a terror campaign against the citizens of cities. Goering was well aware that this was a terrible strategic move but it beat a meeting with the Gestapo and firing squad.
Learn some history dumbass before you have dialogue with adults.
Hey tim73, this sounds like ya got em' right where ya want em'. LOL! Let's see, would I rather have a bunch of Mexicans who share my Christian beliefs immigrate to America, or would I rather have the cult of death invading my western culture? You poor unarmed jackasses are like sitting ducks.
Mohammed likely to top British boys' names list by year-end
Jun 6 02:22 AM US/Eastern
Mohammed will likely become the most popular name for baby boys in Britain by the end of the year, The Times reported on Wednesday, citing government data.
Though official records from the Office for National Statistics list the spelling Mohammed 23rd in its yearly analysis of the top 3,000 names given to children, when all the different spellings of the name are taken into account, it ranks second, only behind Jack, according to The Times.
There are various different spellings of the name because when it is transliterated into English from Arabic, families spell it as closely to their own pronunciations as possible.
In total, 5,991 baby boys were given some version of the name Mohammed, with 6,928 baby boys named Jack.
Post a Comment