We seem to be getting more and more realtor trolls (as expected) as the housing crash accelerates. I think a few of 'em are posting to drive traffic to their lonely blogs or websites, which is a bit odd because HP'ers do such a great job discrediting these liars with the facts.
Others are likely posting because they're so frustrated with Ramen noodles and past-due bills that they're striking out at the messenger.
A few more are just plain crazy and probably dangerous.
And one, Osman, went from "troll" category in my book to actually an upright, honest and interesting guy. A very unlikely but very welcome friend of HP.
So, should we ignore the trolls, or fight back when they post lies and disinformation?
I've always said ignore the trolls like the haters and racists, but I think I'm leaning toward making an exception for realtor trolls.
Plus they're usually so dumb that it's fun to play with 'em.
December 19, 2006
We're getting more realtor trolls. Should we fight 'em or ignore 'em?
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Keith,
I think you should let them say their thing. It's a little hypocritical not to.
If they are being offensive, then definitely ignore them.
Just want to say Thanks for the hard work you are doing. We, in Canada, have a few Blogs trying to predict the future of RE in Canada.
A lot of people in Canada are feeling that we are in for the same declines as you are seeing in the US.
Check out my site and look and some of my links to see other BLogs that I have listed.
I think foxwoodlief went from a upright, honest and interesting guy to a troll.
I look forward to many realtor suicides. I hope they all kill themselves until there are none left.
Fight them here but don't generate traffic for their sad blogs like Swann's
ignore
HPers should just post WARNING REALTOR TROLL - IGNORE THE FOOL after any posting and continue on with the intelligent and informed conversation
Ignore them I say
Fight 'em?
Ignore 'em?
Howbout F**K 'em!
Subprime mortgage market weakening:
http://www.dsnews.com/view_story.cfm?id=689
Initial forecast for 100 billion in defaults in the subprime areas where loans were up to 3 points or more higher than prime mortgage rates for AAA credit type borrowers. I supposed some of the primes might get caught in local real estate cruch vortexes too.
I think any blog that doesn't object to deeply hate-filled racist comments but minds realtor trolling should re-examine their priorities.
--a former fan
Let them sleep in their leased office/car while telling us "It's a good time to buy" or was it "It'a a good time to sell" if it wasn't for your cell phone you'd be a bum in a car. I say lock the door and put some Decon Roach Killer on the porch.
I say fight them.
Keith,
Off topic, did you see the results of Iran's elections today? It would appear that Iran's voting public has started to grow tired of their crazy leader. Do you still think other people besides yourself should bomb the sh_t out of their country, you stupid douchebag?
Back on topic, baiting trolls is so lame. This is just another good example of why Keith should just pack it in. His schtick has grown increasingly tiresome. I find myself heading over to Ben's boring blog more and more these days so I can read news and comments that are actually interesting.
Keith, just go back to working your day job that nobody else in the world can do because nobody else was trained by an army of ninjas in a Tibetan mountain hideout like you.
Keith,
For someone who recently toasted himself as Time's Man of the Year you sure are hypocritical. Blogs are all about free expression and exchanges of ideas. If you thik realtors are wrong, prove them wrong, don't silence them.
Only reason you have for silencing an opposing point of view is if you feel threatened by it.
Silencing the other viewpoint is the liberal way of thinking. Eradicate everyone out of society who isn't a gay-loving hippie. God forbid they watch a non left-leaning news outlet like Fox News. Keith is just living up to the stereotype.
Always feed the trolls!
If anything, it shows new readers how empty the REI talking points are and gives them facts so that they can negotiate with the next realtor (be it their own, or the listing agent) that keeps shouting “buy now! buy now!”
For those from Colorado, pay attention to Osman's blog. I found it extremely useful. Tons of statistics and trends around Boulder (no Denver though).
B747
ummm, who cares about the realtors... their like the mexicans standing on the street corner waiting for a job.
p.s. I like mexicans and don't intend this comment to be against them.
They are fun (when they are not sock puppets). Of coarse they are all millionaire, multiple degreed Ivy League, blue bloods with Mensa IQ’s.
Oh yea, don't believe me? Just ask em'. te he
They can stay.
Maybe we can save one or two.
I don’t like the porn off off topic posts.
I think you should put on your finest Irish kilt and flash 'em!!!
Speakers for the phone-based news event include Michael D. Calhoun, president of the CRL; Pat Vredevoogd Combs, president of the National Association of Realtors; and Wade Henderson, executive director of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights.
OH LIGHT THEM UP!!!!
http://www.dsnews.com/
view_story.cfm?id=689
Boy, they will try to sneek anyting by....
AP
U.S. Charges Ex-Fannie Mae Chief Raines
Monday December 18, 7:24 pm ET
By Marcy Gordon, AP Business Writer
Government Files Civil Charges Against Ex-Fannie Mae Chief Raines, Two Other Executives
Great blog Keith. Keep it up!
Most realtwhores in denial so best to feed them in small bites and watch them wrestle with it.
What is the difference between Real Estate Agents and the GOP?
NAR does not control a Nuclear Arsenal
What is happening? Where am I?
I am confused. Where are my socks?
Crap!
Houses in California cost more then the processed nitrogen within all the craps I have taken in my entire 83 years of life.
That is alot of crap!
I got my real estate license in 2003. It took 1 weekend and about $300 bucks.
Since 2003 made 3.4 million fukin dollars NET so fuk you Kieth!
learn how to spell
The thing is, there is no housing crash. In fact, housing prices are going up in Seattle still.
Your housing panic isn't really happening. Hate to say it, but it just ain't.
Even in the places like Phoenix where things are down, they aren't down by that much.
It's worthwhile engaging in a discussion with realtors. As long as their approach is respectful and they join us in a mutual search for truth about real estate.
As for scumbags like Greg Swann, no, I wouldn't give him the steam off my p*ss.
Give them their own cesspool to pollute -- Bubbletalk. Check.
I agree with tobasco. Keith seems to have an incredible ability to self-destruct with his sporadic rants on nuking Iran. I find it incredible that he doesn't see the similarity between the rush to war with Iran and the rush to war with Iraq. Both have been driven by the same group of people--The Krauthammers, Liebermans, Adelmans, Cohens, etc--The Israel
Firster neocons. As Keith descends into his little hell, he has made what used to be a fine blog(I used to think it was the beest) into an erratic, self-glorifying fluff site with a lot of flashy graphics and clever captions, but only occasional content. I too find Boring Ben's blog to be a far superior place to get real information on the RE bubble. While Keith may find Ben's dogged professionalism to be boring, the site nevers strays off topic with rascist or sensationalist comments. You can tell he puts a real honest effort into his site. He somehow digs up the goods on the real estate bubble and the readers seem to eagerly await the posts, as each thread seems to have well over a hundred comments within hours. the only time I see that many posts on Keith's site is when he crosses the line to go off on his tirade against Iran and then the only reason he gets so many comments is that people log on to rebuke him for his hypocrisy. The only reason I come to this site now is to see if Keith has forgotten to take his meds and launched a new bombastic diatribe on nuking Iran.
Of coarse they are all millionaire, multiple degreed Ivy League, blue bloods with Mensa IQ’s.
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I got my real estate license in 2003. It took 1 weekend and about $300 bucks.
Since 2003 made 3.4 million fukin dollars NET so fuk you Kieth!
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Troll
What are you worried about here Keith??
Are there not enough 'all realtor's should die' responses after I post something??
I like reading various threads on this blog. I even like to engage in conversation in a few of them. I really don't mind the detractors of NAR, real estate agents, or REIC whatever.
I'm not here looking for clients, I have enough on my own with my other efforts. I simply want to know what the man on the street is thinking about. Your blog provides that. You should take this as a compliment.
Now, if you don't like being called out on subjects that you write about, don't offer comments. If you don't want to discuss these subjects and instead play dictator, then don't offer comments.
I feel your content works best when it is a free for all. There are plenty of folks here who are in your corner with their views on real estate that are outstanding contributors. They make remarkable points and have opened my eyes on a few things against what I had come to believe from my industry.
These are the reasons I come back on occasion to read and post my own thoughts.
If I'm not welcome any longer... just say so.
"Since 2003 made 3.4 million fukin dollars NET so fuk you Kieth!"
Is that in Peso's ?
"I think any blog that doesn't object to deeply hate-filled racist comments but minds realtor trolling should re-examine their priorities."
Totally agree. All the crap about Mexican immigrants, etc is offensive.
I do check back here from time to time, but HBB is way better--real content. We don't exist to massage your ego and be your "winged monkeys"!
REIC traiding blogs:
yankee blog swap
Loosers!!
yankee blog swap
I just got a Xmas card from my "Realtor Friend". In her text she wrote:
"It's been a strange market this year. Things will get better especially if the media stays out of it."
Gandalf! I hear the drums of the deep!
Legolas, check the door!
It's David Leherrerere (or however you spell that stupid name). And uh oh, he has a realty troll.
Realtwhores? Ahh hell, let em in. Most are just like the filthy used car salesman. You should rarely believe what they say, but, there's no real harm in listening to their lies is there? It's not like they're some blood-lusting cabal of jewish neo-cohens, hell bent on ethnicly cleansing an entire gene pool of the face of the planet.... These are the people whose jewish lies you don't want to listen to.
Better watch what you ask for Keith. Yahoo is shutting down its message boards and trolls are looking for a new home.
*************DISCLAIMER***************
I am a realtor, please don't kill me. Just hear me out.
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I didn't realize disagreeing automatically made someone a troll. Unless you have dissent, you're in an echo chamber. Where's the fun in that?
Anybody, realtor or not, who doesn't realize the market has slowed in not seeing reality. I have never told anyone I think housing always goes up. I have told them that historically speaking housing has been a good investment but nothing is guaranteed. But it doesn't mean shit what I tell them. I also think your predictions are a little extreme and some of you are not seeing reality either.
You people think realtors have a lot more power than we do. You all assume that everybody (except you of course) is some dimwit who follows every piece of advice from a realtor 100%. I say buy client says "YES SIR" and opens up the checkbook for a downpayment. Doesn't work like that. If someone wants to buy a home, they will buy a home regardless of what I tell them. If someone doesn't want to buy, I can tell them anything I want and they won't buy.
Business for me personally has fallen off dramatically in the past year, but I'm still doing a deal here and there. Difference is instead of taking 4 or 5 days for a home to sell like it did 2 years ago, it's 4 or 5 months. Like a previous poster said, I made enough during the 2002-2004 period that quite honestly I could not close another deal for 5 years and I'd be more than OK financially. There was one week in the summer of 2003 when I made $58,000 net. I'm not bragging, just stating reality. You know those assholes you see who are on the phone 24/7 driving, at the doctor's office, in the grocery store? That was me. The phone just never stopped ringing. Business was that good.
I am no different than a broker at Merrill Lynch who in 1998 or 1999 made millions a year buying and selling pets.com for their clients. We both took advantage of a situation, we did not create it. And just like it was silly to blame your stockbroker because you invested every dime you had in pets.com, it is as silly to blame your realtor for buying an $800,000 1 bedroom condo on the assumption that it would increase in value to $1.2M in 6 months. YOU should have known better.
I once had a young (25ish) couple as clients who together made $110,000 a year. We were in my office getting ready to look at some homes and I asked them what price range they had in mind, expecting around $500K. Nope. The husband says he is looking at development XYZ where homes start at $650K. I told him flat out, someone making your salary cannot afford that much house. He said, nope, he talked to a lender that could qualify him. I tried to tell him that just because you qualify doesn't mean you can afford it. After about 10 minutes of this they walked out and I never heard from them again. I'm sure they ended up buying a $650K home. But I'll be damned if I get blamed for it.
I am not a high school dropout who flipped burgers before getting into real estate. Before getting my licence in 2000 I had been a software engineer for 7 years. I worked for a company you've all heard of. Then came the IT crash, whcih I actually survived. But I thought this profession is not somewhere I want to be in 10 years, clinging to a job that is about to be sent to India or China any day. So I looked around and thought real estate, what the hell and damn did I get lucky. As a matter of fact most other realtors I work with have a similar story - college degree, changed careers for whatever reason. And most likely now that the good times are gone, I will find something else to do again. It's called adaptibility folks, this isn't the 1950s anymore where you joined GE traight ouf ot college and stayed there 40 years.
And finally, at the end of the day neither a realtor, a lender, the NAR, Greenspan or anyone else signs on the dotted line. Every home buyer who bought knew what they were getting into. At every closing, every aspect of a mortgage is explained clearly and in detail. If you sign an Option ARM you know fully well what that means. You know fully well it means you will never pay that debt off and if your house ever falls in value you are fucked.
It is the same when people get a credit card with a 20% rate, max it out and then blame the credit card company for being in debt. Well sorry pal. You are a grown adult. You made that choice, now you will live with it.
*************DISCLAIMER***************
I am a realtor, please don't kill me. Just hear me out.
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I didn't realize disagreeing automatically made someone a troll. Unless you have dissent, you're in an echo chamber. Where's the fun in that?
Anybody, realtor or not, who doesn't realize the market has slowed in not seeing reality. I have never told anyone I think housing always goes up. I have told them that historically speaking housing has been a good investment but nothing is guaranteed. But it doesn't mean shit what I tell them. I also think your predictions are a little extreme and some of you are not seeing reality either.
You people think realtors have a lot more power than we do. You all assume that everybody (except you of course) is some dimwit who follows every piece of advice from a realtor 100%. I say buy client says "YES SIR" and opens up the checkbook for a downpayment. Doesn't work like that. If someone wants to buy a home, they will buy a home regardless of what I tell them. If someone doesn't want to buy, I can tell them anything I want and they won't buy.
Business for me personally has fallen off dramatically in the past year, but I'm still doing a deal here and there. Difference is instead of taking 4 or 5 days for a home to sell like it did 2 years ago, it's 4 or 5 months. Like a previous poster said, I made enough during the 2002-2004 period that quite honestly I could not close another deal for 5 years and I'd be more than OK financially. There was one week in the summer of 2003 when I made $58,000 net. I'm not bragging, just stating reality. You know those assholes you see who are on the phone 24/7 driving, at the doctor's office, in the grocery store? That was me. The phone just never stopped ringing. Business was that good.
I am no different than a broker at Merrill Lynch who in 1998 or 1999 made millions a year buying and selling pets.com for their clients. We both took advantage of a situation, we did not create it. And just like it was silly to blame your stockbroker because you invested every dime you had in pets.com, it is as silly to blame your realtor for buying an $800,000 1 bedroom condo on the assumption that it would increase in value to $1.2M in 6 months. YOU should have known better.
I once had a young (25ish) couple as clients who together made $110,000 a year. We were in my office getting ready to look at some homes and I asked them what price range they had in mind, expecting around $500K. Nope. The husband says he is looking at development XYZ where homes start at $650K. I told him flat out, someone making your salary cannot afford that much house. He said, nope, he talked to a lender that could qualify him. I tried to tell him that just because you qualify doesn't mean you can afford it. After about 10 minutes of this they walked out and I never heard from them again. I'm sure they ended up buying a $650K home. But I'll be damned if I get blamed for it.
I am not a high school dropout who flipped burgers before getting into real estate. Before getting my licence in 2000 I had been a software engineer for 7 years. I worked for a company you've all heard of. Then came the IT crash, whcih I actually survived. But I thought this profession is not somewhere I want to be in 10 years, clinging to a job that is about to be sent to India or China any day. So I looked around and thought real estate, what the hell and damn did I get lucky. As a matter of fact most other realtors I work with have a similar story - college degree, changed careers for whatever reason. And most likely now that the good times are gone, I will find something else to do again. It's called adaptibility folks, this isn't the 1950s anymore where you joined GE traight ouf ot college and stayed there 40 years.
And finally, at the end of the day neither a realtor, a lender, the NAR, Greenspan or anyone else signs on the dotted line. Every home buyer who bought knew what they were getting into. At every closing, every aspect of a mortgage is explained clearly and in detail. If you sign an Option ARM you know fully well what that means. You know fully well it means you will never pay that debt off and if your house ever falls in value you are fucked.
It is the same when people get a credit card with a 20% rate, max it out and then blame the credit card company for being in debt. Well sorry pal. You are a grown adult. You made that choice, now you will live with it.
That looks like a photo of borkafatty with a plunger in hand!
Well said anon realtor, anyone here ever read "Who moved the cheese"?
"Since 2003 made 3.4 million fukin dollars NET so fuk you Kieth!
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Liar! if you actually made 3.4 million, you wouldn't be wasting your time on this blog. Now go back down to your mommy's basement, and shut up.
Actually he/she wold be here since there is no busiess out there for him/her. Don't you see you are contradicting yourself?
"Liar! if you actually made 3.4 million, you wouldn't be wasting your time on this blog. Now go back down to your mommy's basement, and shut up."
I bought and sold two houses myself; made money everytime; never lost a penny to realtor. I'm gonna sit this one out; I'm having two ear plugs; don't hear anything realtors or NAR say. Most realtors have low IQ anyway :O)
And for the low IQ talkalot realtor above. The best advice you should give you clients is: "Don't buy now! Period." I guess you can't do that. Realtors need to make a living. Poor realtors !! Wish you children have higher IQ than yours.
Most realtors I know can't even get a job or get laid off or could not sustain the high IQ demand job. A college degree doesn't make a realtor smart. Educated, yes, but absolutely not smart. Low IQ can't be smart :O)
That is awful grammar. I wouldn't talk about IQ if I were you sport.
You are just being mean. You are not being objective, simply displaying hatred towards a group of people. I do wonder why though. Were you burned in a land deal gone wrong or something? That's the only explanation I can come up for this raging hatred you have.
That aside did realtors force anyone to get an option ARM? Did realtors force builders to over build? Did realtors foce Greenspan to lower rates to ridiculous levels? Did realtors force anyone to go out and buy 10 houses as investment properties? Did realtors force HGTV to create all those flip 'em shows that convinced every douchebag in America that he could make $50K overnight in real estate?
Take a fucking breath and think for a second.
"Most realtors I know can't even get a job or get laid off or could not sustain the high IQ demand job. A college degree doesn't make a realtor smart. Educated, yes, but absolutely not smart. Low IQ can't be smart :O)"
And furthermore all us low IQ realtors made a fortune while you geniuses rented an apartment and made jack shit.
Now you have these fears of big bad China doing this or that. You have a fear of losing your job to China or India. I couldn't care less what China does. I couldn't care less about outsourcing. If I have to work at Taco Bell - after all the "good" jobs go to China - for $7 an hour I have enough saved up to still live a pretty good life for many many years. Can you say the same?
Hey 1 800 PARANOID, are you trying to raise cash to make the monthly nut on that "ass clown, mental midget, I see things as I'd like them and not as they truly are" mortgage you took out last year on the house Bob Toll sold you with a wink and a nod? Were you on drugs when you signed the dotted line or were your parents closely related? Are your feet webbed? Are your eyes a spread out a little far on your face? Did you take the gold in your event last year? Can you spell the word economics? Did your friends call you “Potsy” in high school or are you just really fond of “dem French fried per ta ters”?
Ha ha ... low IQ anon realtor got pressed righ on the button. House is not selling so it's time to pick up the dictionary heh. Good job anon realtor! Getting smart is never too late for realtors ... ha ha ... you absolutely need to improve your IQ :O)
I said I am not selling any houses. Which part of that could you not decipher? I also said I don't really care since I made more than enough to not worry anymore.
I'm going to Colorado for a 5 days ski trip tomorrow. What are you all HIGH IQ geniuses doing for xmas?
I'll be touching myself for Christmas!
break a leg dickhead
We'll miss you Anon Realtor! Hurry back so we can yuck it up!
Is it possible to be a "low IQ genius"? Just asking.
Is it possible to be a "low IQ genius"? Just asking.
Enjoy Christmas in the studio rental boys, say hi to your mom for me. I'll be wishing I was as smart as you, with an IQ as high as yours while soaking in the hot tub after a day of skiing. I'm just a low IQ simpleton who made more in 3 years than you Einsteins will make in 20. Too bad.
You know we would miss you if you would go away - promise.
Let us know how the ski trip works out, or not.
Do you come here becuase people like us have mangaged screw up the best thing to have happened to you in years and likely the peak of your existence? Are you a little worried or anxious about how you're going to make out if all of these economic idicators pan out? Do you have an out of control wife who pisses away your hard earned bucks at a rate that is going to deplete all those "earnings" within a very short period of time - or maybe you are a little worried that your own habits (like going skiing in CO) are going to run through all that georgous money sooner rather than later? Are you like George Costanza and Bosco? Unable to control your own desires and you know that the only way you will be able to continue to live large is if you happen to be lucky enough to grab on to the next "big thing"? Tell us Anon Realtor, tell us why you come here. We already know you don't like us, just tell us why you are posting here and not out selling a house to some unsuspecting rube.
As a psychologist, it is just too fun to come here, find folks who are as insecure as Anon Realtor and then plant little seeds of doubt in his wee mind. I love planting those little seeds of doubt like a mustard seed sprouting into a giant plant over time. Enjoy mulling that over Anon Realtor while you sit in the hot tub contemplating where you will seek your career fortunes in the future. You know deep down that it’s over. We know you’re smart enough to recognize it – the writing is on the wall. Who in the world goes to a web blog to lord over total strangers on the issue of income? What’s next? Are you going to tell us you have a 12 inch dong and are a former porn star but turned realtor because of a fear of contracting HIV? Will you be in the hot tub with mommy? Does mommy enter your thoughts while you are in the hot tub with other people?
I'm just sh*tin' you anon realtor, I'm not a psychologist but I play one on t.v.
Wuff
Man you sure are dense. My very 1st post said it's over and I will be looking for something else to do. I'll always have the licence and if the good time return, great. If not, so be it.
Yet you keep telling me that I am smoehow deluding myself into thinking the market is still booming. You have a serious lack of comprehension abilities...odd for such HIGH IQ geniuses.
So I will state again real slow for you...
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R E A L I Z E
T H A T
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H O U S I N G
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The whole thing about my mommy is just sick. My mother died about 15 years ago after a very tough battle against cancer. You are a sick fuck for bringing that up and shows what kind of filth hangs out here. But hey, what can I do, the world is full of sick fucks, just have to deal with it.
You may hate me because I am an agent, but I am still human like you and share many of the same views you do especially when it comes to agents so here me out...
I am NOT a proud member of NAR nor the local NVAR and believe that both organizations are a joke and should be dissolved. The only reason why I'm a member is so that I can have access to the MLS in my area and be able to have a lock-box key in order to get into properties for my clients. Yes...they force you to be a member in order to do your job! WTF?!
I personally dislike 95% of the agents I have ever come across. I believe that they're vain, pompous, shady, dumb and only concerned with themselves, not their clients best interests nor the industry. I always go back to the low barrier of entry and complete lack of education and regulation.
Here's one for you... My fiance had to go to 1 year of full time school (and $16K later) to get her cosmotology license in order to cut hair and make $18K her first year out of school. Agents on the other hand have to take a two week course ($400) and pass a kindergarten-level test to be an agent and deal with hundreds of thousands of dollars and entire families livelihoods?
Yes, I do have a blog that I welcome anyone to read. But it is not lead-generating nor do I want it to be. The audience I attract is anyone who is fed up with the way real estate is currently conducted and those who have ideas, products, sites and blogs that will help change the industry for the better (aka consumer rather than agent focused). And don't worry, I'm not posting by blog's url to promote...
I hope that the agents and consumers who are fed up with the whole industry can get together and get things changed around. It's been done in other industries, so why not this one?
I don't hate you guys for hating agents so why hate me because I'm agent who feels the same way you do and want things to change just like you?
I am short the market right now and believe the excesses will have to be worked out one way or another. However, the 2nd agent post here (Software guy) was very good. I think who is trolling here is who is not listening to the information he has to say. He did not force anyone into getting an Option Arm, and even talked people out of doing it. Not everyone that works in Real Estate is trying to cheat. He was very smart on jumping into the bandwagon and profiting from it. Leave that guy alone. I think there are too many people that enjoy bashing other people without good reasoning.
@ Keith re: "A few more are just plain crazy and probably dangerous."
Um dude... you're the one who came out and said that you are now actively wanting the entire economy to collapse and not merely commenting on it.
Anon Realtor, why on earth would you divulge something so personal (your mother's death due to cancer?) on a blog with total strangers (and sick strangers at that) ???
Well Junior, get over it - as a former smoker myself, we used to have a saying - we all quit one day!
I heard BorkaFatty did your mom on her death bed!
Merry Christmas Anon Realtor - are we in that wee brain yet!?
I think I can hear those little mustard seeds germinating!
I'm just sh*ting you Anon Realtor, I've long said that what we've had is a credit bubble chasing real estate and not much more than that. I equate the realtors who sell the houses the same as the merchants who sold wares to the 49'ers during the gold rush or the agents who sold lots during the Florida land boom in the 20's. Some of them do things that are not ethical but that happens in any profession. Want a tip on how to maintain your income? Think "Collections" and real estate foreclosure services like a full service business that lists, maintains, provides security, etc. for REO's since I think there will be a lot of them coming in the future. Another tip, don't tell total strangers about a personal loss like your mother's death from cancer - and don't smoke.
A total TOOL like wee minded low IQ anon comes here with good intentions and ends up getting RIPPED BIGTIME.
GOd damn it I luv this fucking blog.
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