September 12, 2006
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A time capsule of the greatest financial mania in the history of mankind, told in real-time by regular folks and patriots. May future generations better understand the madness of crowds, and how power and money corrupt.
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2012
2012, I agree
2009 or 2010. Inflation will start to prop up the prices again, after the "froth" is drained like a Guiness going down an Irishman's gullet.
On the road in Washington DC.
Talked with a friend here is is a realtor (ok hiss/boo!). . .actually nice guy - been in the business 20 years. . .he sold his primary residence a few years ago, and rents. His quote "I would like to buy something, but I am concerned that it would go down in value, so I am just renting for a while longer.". . ..there you have it . . the DC market is overbuilt also. . .condos on every corner.
2012 is optimum and will gradually go up, hopefully in line with income. By 2018 - 20, will probably go back to the 2004-05 price level.
To the 2004-05 homeowners with no down payment, you're looking at 15-20 years before you can break even in your "so-called" investment, that is if you can sustain the long and winding road.
I think it is all really hard to say, but this article will give you an interesting story to chew on about how long housing prices went down in Japan:
From financialsense.com
http://tinyurl.com/qfbep
2009-2016
2012
2016, at the earliest.
One simply cannot time a market. All who say they can are lying. All who believe they can are fools. One can only make an educated guess and hope for the best. If that guess turns out to be correct the guesser will be treated as a genius; if that guess turns out to be wrong, the guesser will simply disappear. Those who study trends and render technical evaluations based only on those trends are simply reading the tea leaves. The only way to truly understand a market is to evaluate the worth of an asset in terms of its ability to generate future wealth, i.e. a P/E ratio or something analogous such as a property’s ability to generate rental income relative to its cost of ownership. However, the fact that an asset is overvalued does not tell you when a correction will occur. Houses were over valued in 2002, more so in 2003, much more so in 2004, and much much more so in 2005 however a meaningful correction has still yet to materialize and housing remains overvalued. We cannot even say for certain whether the past 6 months is the beginning of the long-anticipated correction or a temporary slow down. We can only know that housing is over valued and sooner or later prices will fall.
2013-17
:One simply cannot time a market. All who say they can are lying.
So you mean successful traders are liars.
Well, I can... bought gold at 350/oz, three years ago, sold at 660/oz just recently.
Bought BearX in 2002, made 60% that year, sold it in 2003 when the market stabilized.
Bought Lucent put options at $65, covered at $35 during 2000.
Another fund, PSAFX (contra dollar hedge/intl bond market fund) averaged 7% for the past five years.
And I haven't bought an S&P tracker since 2000.
FYI, my only bad trades was when I tried to straddle Lucent during its chopping around a $2-3 per unit. I also tried swingtrading BGO. I lost most of those short term swings but I'm pretty close to perfect on intermediate to long term trades.
That graph is suspect. There is a uptick starting in 2004, then after that the line is cut off. Time to get bullish on Japanese real estate?
Anyhow, for the US, the sooner the better. I'll take a quick swipe to the head over a death of a thousand cuts, thank you.
The housing market should stabilized in the next few months and start to appreciate at a more normal rate of 12% per year.
HHmmm.. looks like a few others know about the signifigance of the year 2012
Successful traders are lucky - not necessarily liars
I guess 2010 -- figure it will take at least as long to come down as it did to go up - what is the significance of 2012 dedesert?
I'm going with 2016, as I see some other economic changes coming then.
"The housing market should stabilized in the next few months..."
Ha-ha-ha. You must be one of the late comers who bought at the peak huh? Come on, don't lie to us. Nothing good is going to come out, if you're just trying to think positive. You really have to have some understanding of the fundamentals or underlying factors.
It will correct itself this year. After all, it will be a soft landing. They are not making land anymore and everyone wants to live in CA. Plus salaries are keeping up. If you dont buy now you will be shut out forever. Rates will go up. As soon as my home goes up another 80k I will soon be able to take out another HELOC for the granite dashboard on my H2. My wife needs to get silicone ass cheeks to go with the tetas. It is the latest.
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