So what do you think the hundred million illegals* in the US are doing now that their #1 industry (housing) has completely tanked, and state governments are getting tough?
* DISCLAIMER: My 100 million number is as accurate as any the government puts out. Nobody knows the truth - they're ILLEGAL and UNCOUNTED.
April 21, 2008
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Pretty much nothing judging from the crowd handing outside of Home Depot at any given day.
* DISCLAIMER: My 100 million number is as accurate as any the government puts out. Nobody knows the truth - they're ILLEGAL and UNCOUNTED.
That's pretty dumb. Just because no one else has a legit number, doesn't give you the right to make up a number. I like the blog, don't go messin it up with made up stuff. Otherwise you're no better than the other guys makin up their numbers. And that's not why we read your blog.
Anon, get a clue while you're also looking for your sense of humor.
The difference between my 100 mil number and the government one is that I promote that I pulled it out of my ass, whereas they publish it as truth, and the MSM goes along for the ride.
The point is important though - NOBODY FREAKING KNOWS. NOBODY.
What they are doing is nothing! Hanging out drinking medelo or coronas at the circle K in Lake Worth Florida by the hundreds. Basically if they don't find work by 12 then they have the day off to drink and since they live with 10 others just like them there cost of living is dirt cheap. Since these 4 footers are home and drunk the only other thing to do is to f@ck their illegal wife/girlfriend and put out as many kids as possible because we give WIC cards with more $$ based on how many anchor babies they have! Living like Jimmy Buffet with a mexican and a bottle of tequilia.
Standing around in front of various places. At least before they had somewhere to be, like a roofing job...
IMO local governments aren't going to get tougher. They'll whine that they don't have enough money to do anything about it, and attempt to put even more tax burdens on an already overtaxed population.
I hope they protest like mad. After the 100 million illegals organize a march on Washington, they can all get arrested for thier efforts!
DEPORT THEM ALL!
I dont care what they need or want, its bad enough that we have so many legal's with thier hands out as it is.
Getting Drunk, driving uninsured &unregistered vehicles and crashing into and crippling US citizens every day.
Put a bounty out on illegals.
Just bring the scalp in for payment.
True story..
Was looking for someone to help me with yard work in one of my investment properties.
I placed an ad in a local paper offering $15 an hour (I know it’s not much, but the work requires no special skill just a little elbow grease).
Got several responses, most seemed like they where just looking for additional information. (my ad stated looking for someone to help rake up a yard).
One person agreed to meet me Saturday morning, I got there with the tools, waited a while - he did not show up; tried calling him but he did not answer the phone.
A young person walk by, I stopped him and asked if he’s interested in helping me out for $15 an hour, he said not today but he would be avail on Sunday, got his name and number and we arranged for me to call him Sunday morning.
Called him at about 9:30 am, it sounded like I woke him after a night of boozing, he said not today and to try him again tomorrow.
Later in the day while driving around I noticed someone that looked like a Mexican person waiting at a bus stop, I pulled over and asked him if he would be avail to help me,
With a smile on face he immediately agreed.
He did a fantastic job with a smile the entire time; it was a pleasure to work with him.
It was my first experience working with a Mexican.
I will from here on go out my to avoid hiring my fellow lazy ass white trash, and without a doubt be looking for Mexicans, and raise them financially at the same time.
If we end up a Spanish speaking Country, I would be OK with it.
As of now: at the bottom of my list are White Europeans, totally worthless, by far the laziest species of mankind.
Next up are White-trash Americans, not bad but not my priority anymore.
Prefer first generation Americans from anywhere across the globe (besides Europe).
They are willing to earn a living.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING NOW???
WELL, AFTER THEY GET HOME FROM WAITING AT HOME DEPOT, THEY CHECK THE MAILBOX, DIVIDE THE MAIL UP BETWEEN THE SIXTEEN PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE HOME, AND SEE WHO GOT THEIR BUSH REBATE CHECK, SO THEY CAN GO TO WALMART AND WIRE IT OFF TO MEXICO...
DOPES!!!
What are they doing? Well, I live in Southwest Florida and I will tell you.
They start grow houses in the homes that they bought using Bank of America no-doc, adjustable rate loans. They steal electricity. The neighborhoods where they lived looks like slums, though the houses are less than 3 years old.
When the sheriff's office decides to finally do their job and bust the grow houses, the illegals leave en masse, leaving dead bodies, overgrown lawns, houses so trashed that it would take a miracle to make them habitable and unpaid home loans behind. The bank will never catch up with them. They don't even know who they really are.
Thank you Mr Bush. Thank you do-nothing congress.
Are there any men left in America or are they all traitors?
"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."
-- C.S. Lewis
same things - braking our laws, producing anchor babies, living off social services, raping women and bitching about how we are tearing families apart by sending them home.
We all know the feds understate any economic problem so when they estimate 12 million you can safely double it to 24 million.
For one, they have less money to send home which makes it harder for their families to come here and join them. Many will leave and go home. Many unemployed Americans will be willing to do the low skilled jobs and will compete with the illegals
I can't wait to see the look on their faces when unemployed white people get so desperate they start taking agricultural jobs. 10 years from now, all the orange/strawberry pickers will be unionized making $30 an hour and our produce will be $20 a pound.............back to ol'Mehiko.
DirkDiggler
From what I heard from a construction guy from Tampa, the Florida illegals are all heading north to places like the mountains of North Carolina, where they can live cheap in the woods and get jobs in construction (whose building). This guy himself COMMUTES to NC from Tampa because there are jobs there. Friggin 10 hours each way. He sold off all of his goodies and commutes in a Corolla. He used tohave a Denali
"A long forgotten wind is starting to blow. Do you hear the approaching thunder? It is that of the awakened Saxon. War is upon the land. The tyrants' blood will flow."
There must be an awakening about all these illegals. 100 million is just as valid as 30 million.
Move them back to Mexico!
They are just waiting for St. Barry to save them by legalizing them and their families, and giving them a huge freaking check to buy any house they want to.
Many are also probably going to the ER to get their annual physical so they can qualify for the free insurance for all that the Obama'd One will hand them.
Oh well, Mc Cain would do the same.
Hopefully going back home.
I'm a naturalized citizen, and I had to jump through a lot of hoops to become a citizen, so you can imagine how warm and fuzzy I feel inside to see mobs of illegals just crossing the border and as far as the government is concerned they're welcomed with open arms, and food stamps, & wellfare, & free medical care, etc...
Now if only we dealt with illegals the same way as Mexico does.
heading for Canada?
People seem to leave out the fact that they have children. Lots of children. Instant US citizens. Now they are entitled to loads of services (ie our tax dollars), fill the hospitals, schools, and sadly, jails. Just because construction work for the fathers might be drying up, it doesn't mean they will go home again now that they have American CHILDREN (anchor babies)--THAT is the law that needs to be changed.
100 Mil probably is closer than the Govt. spin doctors put out...
Look at the number they put on inflation.I guess Anon believes that number to... until he buys milk & gas this afternoon.
Keith, here's what they aren't doing ... going back to Mexico.
We've had two drive by shootings in Scottsdale in the past month. This is the first time ever that a drive by has happened here. Wanna guess the race? Ding, ding, ding ... we have a winner.
With the corn prices going through the roof in Mexico they may need to stay here just so they don't starve.
They're going to cling to God and guns, duh.
Heading home.
Hey, at least they know how to build things and are willing to bust hump.
If you count all the offspring of the illegals over the years that are here, I betcha the 100 million is probably a lot closer than you realize. Think about it, doesn't the English or Spanish options for choices all around us say it all? If there were such a small number of illegals here as the government would like you to believe, businesses would not waste the time and money making everything bilingual.
It is easy to develop the number of invaders in the USA. Base the number of estimates from border monitors, population counts in Mexico before and after year 2000, police apprehension increases since 2000, number of new jobs added since 2000, average size of invader families, etc. Current estimate is 40-50 million. 100 million seems high although that is close to the figure the church wants to be in the USA so if we do not get active on this invasion by 3rd world haters then 100 million WILL BE a real number soon enough.
hummm,
I guess they are just going to have to demand that the 7 welfare checks that go to each home be increased to compensate for the slowing economy.
kick their asses south of the boarder!!!!
I don't suppose - getting ready to move back where they came from?
The 8 "guest workers" living in the 900sq ft house down the street from me are doing pretty good. But what is it with that god awful polka music they listen too at ear splitting levels all day long ?
Working on farms harvesting the increased crops.
I cannot take two steps in any direction without having to stop in my tracks or step on my brakes to avoid a group of MessyCans pushing strollers here in Orange County Kalifornika.
First: if you take the 20-30 richest people and spread their wealth to 100 million illegals they will get 10k each.
We have half a trillion with china every year... ohh, and 10 bil with mexico.
But of course the Mexicans and the other illegals wear the prada and drive the hummers and a few of them dang strawberry pickers bought a house. Frankly, at least they do something as opposed to most of the welfare redneck white trash trash.
I've never seen a Mexican male that doesn't work, he is aways working for 3-4$/hour. The rest... his woman gets in welfare because you crap white trash cannot pay a minimum wage or mow your own lawn.
I haven't seen a Mexican delegate his work to India or China.
But I have seen 2 types of white trash - welfare hobos and white trash just sitting and collecting a paycheck for no work. Even your favorite Buffet is just playing stocks and the rest of the white trash. Let me know what has Buffet ever done of real value?
I mean get real dude, no doubt u will kill them all or kick them out very soon. The only thing that will change is why you are white trash. If it ain't the Mexicans, it will be the black, if it ain't the black it will be the gov. But there is only one type of white trash that trashes their life and blames it on peeps that actually help you - you and short sighted white trash like you.
Even if there are 100 million people and they made 1000$/month you still get to 1.2 trillion most of which are spent in the US. With 300 million legals this means that those people get 1/14th of GDP and spent most of it here since from this 1.2 trillion only 10 billion go to their home countries.
Go back to KKK idiot. And let me know if you come by Bulgaria, I'll make sure to f***ck you up.
p.s. if the dang illegals took your spot strawberry picking or rich people's lawn mawing then i can understand your frustration and think you should kill them all :)
Barron's did an economic analysis and figured the number at 20,000,000 about 4 years ago. I would be surprised if the number is over 30,000,000, but it is true: no one really knows.
The Gov't and MSM have been saying 12,000,000 illegals for years! I seriously doubt the number has been standing still.
Time magazine ran a story in 2004 that said their best estimate was 8,000 illegal crossings every day. It wasn't clear how many were repeat/seasonal crossings.
100 million doesn't pass the back of the napkin test.
There's only about 100 million Mexicans. Last time I checked, there were some left in Mexico ;)
10-20 million is a more reasonable guestimate.
ILLEGAL MEX: Si, se puede! (Yes, we can!).
WINGS: No, su puede! (No, you can't!).
ILLEGAL MEX: Si, se puede, su pendejo! (Yes, we can, a--hole!).
WINGS: No, su puede su thief! (No, you can't you thief).
ILLEGAL MEX: Si, se puede. Soy La Raza! (Yes, we can. I am from THE RACE).
WINGS: No, se puede you little brown supremacist racist!
ILLEGAL MEX: Su, stole the land from La Raza. Es Aztlan, no es Los Estatdos Unidos (You stole the land from the race. It's Aztlan not the United States).
WINGS: Aww shut up you uneducated grifter!
ILLEGAL MEX: Su madre! (Your mother!)
WINGS: Tu padre pendejo! (Your father, a--hole!).
WINGS:
I think it's 100 million, obviously anon doesn't live any where near, texas, arizona, new mexico, and most importantly California. They can't find jobs so they are resorting to robbing people, so much for the claims they live legally. But, alas, I have noticed a difference. It appears they are going somewhere and not into empty homes. I still hear spanish but not to the degree I heard it 6 months ago, not as many people walking around with baby stollers and the lines to the back of the stores before are now more reasonable. Plus now they have a more guilty look on their faces LOL the men anyway those women are mean as rattle snakes. I have noticed more whites and blacks holding the jobs mexicans once held and so much for the argument that mexicans do what americans won't. Pay me more and I will pick fruit on my days off, well, I don't know if I'll go that far but if it that lucrative I bet alot of unemployed American's may give it a try. You never know.
I mean you would think someone like you Keith that seem they transcended simple groupthink would be able to see that thinking like that is pointless and actually bad. Let me know the difference between the jews screwing germany, and the mexicans screwing america.
Hopefully this type of stupidity won't bring 100+ billion dead and a destroyed world.
Here's a little different viewpoint of the illegal aliens in tne country. I'm guessing they are going to start teaching Americans how to cook, clean and live as large families in order to survive the coming financial meltdown. The average, if I just believe things will get better they will, American is going to be looking everywhere for a little help. I'm certain the bankers (already bottomed thanks to Uncle Benny) and the leaders in Rome can't explain it as they are too busy telling everyone how everything is going to work out since we atleast still grow food which foreigners will happily purchase.
I sure hope they don't expect us to learn Spanish in order to learn basic life skills...
I know what they're doing in Vegas....
Standing on the sidewalk snapping those "business cards" in your face for all the hookers.
keith, it's not 100 million but probably around 20 million. I'd say that about half of the 40 million latinos in this country are illegal...going back all the way to the amnesty in the 80's.
as for what they are doing...some are trying to hang on, but others are on the run to stupid states that are not looking for them and others are self-deporting.
when things get better here they will be back though...that is, unless we build the protection wall.
scare the sh#t out of you, read "The Camp of the Saints"
After spending time in the central valley of California I would say 100 million is close.
All menial jobs, most everyone you come in contact with (outside of a main office)is Mexican. Many are good at what they do though. Someday one may even be a friend.
But as a white person my guard is always up. I feel like a minority and always ready for a situation.
It may sound strange but you feel like you don't fit in-In America
Sizing you up!
RayNLA
That's pretty dumb. Just because no one else has a legit number, doesn't give you the right to make up a number. I like the blog, don't go messin it up with made up stuff. Otherwise you're no better than the other guys makin up their numbers. And that's not why we read your blog.
Who's we, you got a turd in your pocket dumbass. The 100,000,000 million comment is more accurate than the bullshit gov. number (lie). Furthermore, the thundering hurd of illegals devestating the wage base in this country while drinking the treasury dry shouldn't be mentioned here? Please just shut up.
Signed: Contractor who has made his living in home construction since 1985 and understands exactly how illegals fit into this discussion, even if your to stupid to.
Jim Cramer at the street.com also blamed illegals for housing in a column he wrote today.
One other thought about spending: Housing is going to bottom, I believe, as soon as the election comes, but not for the reason Bob Toll of Toll Brothers (TOL - commentary - Cramer's Take) gives, which is that the deterioration in pricing will be off the front pages.
It will bottom because we will again look the other way about illegal immigration, and because lending will get sloppy again, and the aspiring immigrants will buy the greatly reduced housing in places like Arizona an [sic] California. Nobody likes to talk about how the crackdown on immigration really messed with housing. Way too politically incorrect. But it is a big reason why, if we look like Japan now, we won't next year.
I expect a tidal wave of Latin American immigration under any of the candidates. Our schools and health care system are just too good to resist, and our housing too cheap to ignore. No value judgments -- I am sick of them. Just the real nail in the coffin of the Japan thesis I am propounding, even as I put the idea in your head as the next big wave of powerful but bogus thinking.
I don't think they will all do the same thing. I see three groups with their own unique response. Those that are a family and had children here - which are US citizens by birth - will likely try to stay and become legitimate. The single men who left families behind in their country of origin will likely return. The single men will mostly try to stay and survive by any means available - moving to where the work is and resorting to crime.
This will be a test of bleeding hearts, and rational minds.
-Globethistle
I have a friend who was an illegal. Came here with mother and four older brothers when his dad decided it was too much work going back and forth to Mexico to see his family.
He's spent the last ten years running a contract manufacturing business while living in his Parents basement. (Not out of his basement, he has a rented building, and employees) House is paid for. Dad has social security and works part time, mother sews for a living. They grow about 1/3 of their food in the back yard. His other two unmarried brothers live at home along with one of his cousins.
Somehow I don't think they're in trouble. Someone might not have a job, but they aren't sitting on their ass eating Cheeto's and watching day time TV.
Probably 30 million undercounted.
Here is a possible side effect that may not have been considered by everyone -- the layoffs at maquiladora facilities along the border.
http://tinyurl.com/5fx88s
If they lef the country then that would be a sort of silver lining
The April 21 edition of the Washington Post had an article "A New View of Vacant Houses - Immigrant Crackdown Changing Block for the Better, Pr. William Pair Say..." In short, it alleges that illegal immigrants that were packed into houses have left and the houses they lived in are in foreclosure. Still, no idea where these people went to... "People on both sides of Prince William's illegal-immigration debate say Latino immigrants are leaving the county. Evidence is anecdotal, and so far it is impossible to measure the migration or whether it is driven by tough laws, economic downturn or the wave of mortgage foreclosures."
i think there are more like 125 million.
Keith, perhaps Anon. 9:11 PM doesn't have the intellectual capacity to understand that what you said was in humor. It might not be his/her/it's fault.
Immigrants were coming to this country long before there was a real estate bubble. They came to this country for the same reason that youths of upstate New York tend to migrate to New York City: that's where opportunity is. If the US becomes a socialist dump like New York City almost became in the late 70's and early 80's, net migration will become negative.
they will collect welfare like blacks. Us white people will fix everyone's problems.
The Mexicano economy is tanked, roasted like a taco skewered on a green bamboo spit over a fire. Why? Because the illegal Mexicano is as stupid, corrupt, irresponsible, greedy, materialistic, immoral, ignorant, pretentious, dishonest, as Americano.
So is the Mexicano economy toasted or what?
Will Miguel Burrito and Tortilla Maria cash out their low rider equity now? (Haaaaa, haaaaa, haaaaa, should that be CHEVY EQUITY...?) Will they high-tail it back over the fence along the southern border, and take their drooling spawn with them?
What will happen to all those big-ass gas-guzzling pickup trucks that they drive?
Will the Mexicano be toasted as a taco skewered on a stick, its innards spilled into a sizzling bed of red hot charcoal so that only the charred shell remains?
(With apologies to Andrew Hac, but not to the illegals)
-Mammoth
According to the crime reports, they are robbing and pillaging the Soutwestern USA wholesale.
The same way that the gov't critics use the pre-1984 CPI, they should apply pre-1924 immigration laws. Then, my guess is, 90% of illegals could be accounted for as "legals". Problem solved. :-)
BTW, in Russia we are a year ahead at prosecuting businesses for hiring illegals. The only observable result is, as you might expect, more bureaucracy.
This is what you get when you pump the cesspool from Third World countries, along with Obama's base, into your neighborhoods:
No. 1 in auto theft: Modesto, Calif.
Insurance crime group reports that western states still lead the nation in car theft.
NEW YORK -- Modesto, Calif., has the highest rate of auto theft per capita of any metropolitan area in the country, according to the National Insurance Crime Bureau.
Top 10 metro areas by per capita auto theft rate for 2007
1. Modesto, Calif.
2. Las Vegas/Paradise, Nev.
3. San Diego/Carlsbad/San Marcos, Calif.
4. Stockton, Calif.
5. San Francisco/Oakland/Fremont, Calif.
6. Laredo, Texas
7. Albuquerque, N.M.
8. Phoenix/Mesa/Scottsdale, Ariz.
9. Yakima, Wash.
10. Tucson, Ariz.
http://tinyurl.com/5j2brw
your mom's an illegal immigrant
Back to picking lettuce for 8 bucks an hour, most likely. Sad thing is, before they were making 16/hour in construction, 8 seemed like a lot to them.
Well I say thank god we have illegal immigrants here, because it's no longer fashionably correct to bad mouth jews, blacks, retards, or physically deformed people anymore.
To Mid Hudson Valley NY,
There is no dispute of your stated fact that most whites in the USA are lazy selfish mentally ill ingrate a-holes. I see the same thing in California. However you do not solve one decease with a worse one. As bad as whitie is in the USA, NOTHING is worse then the swarms of racist violent turd-world peon pigs from Mexico. They may smile and act like they love work but it is only a front. What they are really looking at is your woman, homes, and local government. They have a 1500 year history of invading and as such know how to play the game. It is the smartass arrogant smug Americans like "Mid Hudson Valley NY" that think some stand they puke forth is righteous. If you want to be truly wise you most look at all sides of a subject.
"state governments are getting tough?"
Not tought enough!
The illegals were allowed to come here to work to maximize the profits of the corporations.
http://www.coloradogold.com/archive/Cost_of_Illegals-507.html
Speaking of illegal immigration and La Raza/ Aztlan
Did you see this offensive ad absolut is running in Mexico.
In the ad the usa is divided into what "La Raza" claims is theirs, and states... in an Absolut World.
http://www.boycottabsolut.com/
-BA
had a roof job done by a group of non english speakers and the one leak turned into one hundred leaks after a complete reroofing and a typical three card monte on whose fault it was while the neighbor redid his three times before sellong out........
As of now: at the bottom of my list are White Europeans, totally "worthless, by far the laziest species of mankind.
Next up are White-trash Americans, not bad but not my priority anymore."
why did you not rake them yourself. the you spend driving around looking for someone you could have done it yourself.
sounds like you're the lazy one.
USA needs to treat illegal mexicans like mexico treats illegal immigrants from Honduras. Problem solved.
Come on, people:
They still have lots of work that US citizens hire them for --
1. gardener
2. cook your food in restaurants you love
3. wash your dishes in restaurants you love
4. take care of peoples children
5. clean peoples houses
6. clean hotel rooms after you use them
I'm surprised you all think housing is the only thing they do.
Hopefully they'll all sneak back into Mexico and destroy what little is left of their social system. Their legacy is a country full of poor quality construction. Builders gave these folks design and construction ownership when maybe 1% ever lived in a comparable house in Mexico. They were clueless... but cheap. If anyone needs a token for the bus back let me know.
Fred in Dallas
"That's pretty dumb. Just because no one else has a legit number, doesn't give you the right to make up a number."
Jerkoff, the government LIES TO US DAILY, HP can do anything it wants.
F*ck YOUR "RIGHTS".
If you don't like it, go build your houses somewhere else.
Here in Phoenix, Illegals are everywhere. Estimates run up to half a million in Maricopa county alone.
Our tougher laws have forced many underground and some are leaving.
The anchor baby problem is still the golden ticket for many.
Our schools, healthcare facilities and Wal-Mart Stores are overcrowded with them.
They are the culture of entitlement.
If we need workers, there has to be a way for them to leave when the job is done. Instead they come and come, and stay, and have an entire underground economy that has tightened its belt, but is not yet starved.
If we have 20 -30 million already, isn’t that enough to fill agriculture jobs?
No, because like the white trash hating guy, they obtain skills, and refuse menial labor once they are on the gravy train.
New arrivals will do work for little pay. Guys that have been here longer demand 12 - 15 bucks an hour for yard work or laying tile. Long time illegals have worked their way up to owning homes and owning businesses.
Build the fence, enforce our immigration laws, identify, arrest and deport every single illegal criminal border crashing invader we can find.
Then devise a worker program that forces them to leave when the job is done.
This is a bunch of racist crap! I a just as for a strong border as anyone, but your racist undertones are nasty. Don't worry though, as government does crack down, the illegals move out. They only come for the same reason anybody in their situations would, they are hungry & poor. You people here would do the same, in fact most whites here in the U.S. are descended from Irish potatoe eating drunkards whose brains were beaten out by the British! Imagine, you white priders were victims of genocide by the ultimate whitey, the fag BRITS! OMG! And on top of that, your food sucks! Don't even get me started on the German vermin who escaped from the nazi German corridor... My point is there are many not as fortunate as we have been, try not to assign the characteristics of poverty to the characteristics of any race...
-JDF
Here's what I don't understand about illegals coming here. Mexico is a poor country; right? Thats why illegals come here for jobs; right? Yet I'm constantly reading stories about illegals paying coyotes $2,000 - $2,500 to smuggle them across the border. In many cases if they're caught crossing, they have to pay the coyotes again when they try later. If they can raise this kind of money in their homeland of Mexico, why don't they just use that money to better their lives there and not bother coming here.
They're not going anywhere because they don't have too. I guess no one here saw the coverage of the "North American Leadership Summit" today with Bush, Calderon and the PM of Canada. CNN broadcast a bit of it this morning.
The North American Union is real and its coming sooner than you think....no more borders, no more "illegal Mexicans."
How else can you explain the total lack of border enforcement for the last X amount of years. And do you really thingk this subprime mess wasn't preplanned by the powers that be? C'mon, these guys are at the top of the food chain, highly educated, etc.... It was all designed to devalue the dollar. Gas at $4/gal, milk and food prcies rising....Let's devalue the dollar so we can intoduce the Amero to desperate Americans and avoid all opposition or rebellion. It's all real and happening in baby steps....
-AF
BTW, in Russia we are a year ahead at prosecuting businesses for hiring illegals. The only observable result is, as you might expect, more bureaucracy.
Can we ship our 200,000 illegal alien gang members to Russia? Each time we deport them, they come back a week later. It's like fighting roaches
Would if this happened?
http://silverbearcafe.com/private/3.08/jobmarket.html
Funny but scary too!
lady di, i think just maybe they are looking for work.
Lady Di said...
Pretty much nothing judging from the crowd handing outside of Home Depot at any given day.
Consider what has happened with the sect of polygamists in Texas. A precedent has now been set to take children away from criminal parents en masse.
The groundwork has now been lain to take the citizen children of so-called illegal aliens and make them wards of the State, while deporting the "criminal" parent(s).
I suspect these young Americans will then be raised as "true and patriotic" citizens, willing to give their lives for their country in foreign wars.
A chilling turn-of-events, no?
lady di, i think just maybe they are looking for work.
Lady Di said...
Pretty much nothing judging from the crowd handing outside of Home Depot at any given day.
Further proof that we don't need another 30 million uneducated illiterate illegal immigrants. This isn't 1850 or 1900 anymore. We do not have an expanding agricultural or industrial economy. We need more educated healthcare workers to lower medical costs. We need more engineers and scientists to compete with Europe and Asia. The fact that there are dozens of men standing on street corners looking for work is proof that we do not need them here and they have no right ot be here.
According to some of the kooks here, if you oppose the Bloods and Crips, you must hate black people. If you oppose the Mafia, you hate Italians. If you oppose illegal immigrants, you hate Mexicans. If you oppose prostitution, you hate women. That's the kook way of thinking
Americans continue to be a sheep. You do realize that, as the immigrants start taking over your cities and states, you and your kids will be losing control over your jobs, government, and destiny, right?
It's happening in South Florida already. Cubans took over the government and everything else down there, blacklisting Americans and other Latinos from job positions, promotions, or contracts. Cubans don't get along with the rest of Latin America; ask anyone from Colombia, Peru, Venezuela, Nicaragua, etc.
According to a recent Census, more than half of Los Angeles workers are immigrants. And it keeps growing exponentially. What do you think that's going to happen when that figure reaches 70%? The mayor of Los Angeles is already an ignorant Mexican, voted into office by Mexicans. This wave will keep on growing up North and in every other direction, until Mexicans dominate entirely the US, especially because they have 4 to 7 babies per household, while educated Americans have 2 max or none.
Not only that, the same immigrants are voting their counterparts into office, en masse, and changing totally the curse of this country. This is not a healthy diversity, this is a domination of Cubans in Florida and Mexicans everywhere else. Everybody else outside those groups will be a minority in the next few years.
Keep in mind that these are the same people who couldn't fix their own countries back home and now want to control the US and your destiny. I don't have to call your attention on the deterioration of standards of living in places like Los Angeles, Miami, San Diego, etc, where corruption, violence, and cost of living have been skyrocketing since the invasion started. Of course, you had to live in those places in order to be able to compare and notice how bad it has gotten. Many people here give an opinion without experiencing the event. Or think that it won't affect them because they live in some distant state. Dream on.
If all these high school-drop out immigrants were any good at making decisions, they would have fixed their own POS countries long time ago or would take family planning seriously. It seems that as soon as they cross the border, suddenly they're experts in Economics, Finance, Political Science, Sociology, Statistics, etc. They march on American streets waving the American flag upside down, demanding and protesting like they know any better. In their cars and homes, only the Mexican and Cuban flags are displayed, though. You don't see them doing this back home, as it's easier to live off the backs of naive and extremely passive Americans. As they vote more and more of their "paisanos" into office, the welfare fiesta will increase accordingly, at your expense.
Meanwhile, the authorities never release the alarming data about crimes committed by immigrants, or the cost of incarceration, social services, and processing to Americans who actually pay taxes to support this country. If you do that, all hell breaks loose, as the organized crime behind those immigrant groups pull the race card in order to get away with their sordid plans.
Anon April 23, 2008 2:19 PM:
The polygamists had their kids taken away because they were molesting kids, not because they committed any crime.
Glad I could help, now you can go mentally masturbate with something else you don't have all the facts on! LOL
Check this out:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/04/23/dnt.az.buying.diesel.mexico.ktvk
When the dollar goes kaput, and the world has to go back to the original world currency: the Spanish/Mexican silver dollar, the world standard for money for 300+ years from about 1500 to about 1850 . . . then Americans will be smuggling across border to Mexico to work for real money.
BTW, red tapes and cetralizing "Federal" govoernment was what ruined Mexico in the 19th century. When the "Federals" tried to evict "illegal" Americans in what is today's Texas and California, the "Federals" faced opposition from both Anglos and local Mexicans who did not want Mexican federal government running their lives.
> Can we ship our 200,000 illegal alien gang members to Russia?
But you MUST ask for something in return! We can offer an equal (or, perhaps, even greater than that) army of Federal Migration Service officials - they will commit themselves, along with a permanent slice of budget, to inventing all kinds of migration control forms, reports, procedures and other fancy papers. And, while immigrants can be assimilated, bureaucrats can't.
Blows my mind how racist so many on this blog are. It's sad and its also the problem with the US.
BTW, racist posters, you are not better than anyone else, and your close-minded nastiness actually makes you a lower level being.
That is why we got the term "Ugly Americans".
I went to an estate sale on Saturday in Palo Alto.
About 15 nationals loitering on the El Camino @ San Antonio Road. All waiting for a contractor to pick them up like a hooker.
There is no work out there for these people. Why dont they just give up and go back to Mexico?
Place a cash bounty on all illegal aliens with an escalation clause for quantity.
Just bring the scalps.
Throw the rest in the nearest dumpster...
What happens if they are not illegal? There's a war on and you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette...
Anon April 23, 2008 5:32 PM said:
The polygamists had their kids taken away because they were molesting kids, not because they committed any crime.
Glad I could help, now you can go mentally masturbate with something else you don't have all the facts on! LOL
BWAAAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahaha!
I cannot believe someone could be so utterly stupid as to post something like this.
"because they were molesting kids, not because they committed any crime"
ROFL !!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
No, you couldn't possibly be that stupid.
But there it is - sure enough.
You are simply the stupidest, lamest imbecile I have met online yet.
hehe
oh man, "molested kids, but committed no crime".
molesting kids != comitting a crime.
BWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
How ironic - a total and complete jack-off suggesting someone else go and masturbate.
What a moron, hahahahahaha!
God, help me, I cannot stop laughing at this total boob.
hahahahahaha!
What a goober. You must have an extra chromosome to make a statement like that.
oh man, that was so funny ...
That is why we got the term "Ugly Americans".
That term was made up by scammers to make stupid people feel guilty about not giving more of their children's money away
But you MUST ask for something in return! We can offer an equal (or, perhaps, even greater than that) army of Federal Migration Service officials - they will commit themselves, along with a permanent slice of budget, to inventing all kinds of migration control forms, reports, procedures and other fancy papers. And, while immigrants can be assimilated, bureaucrats can't.
It sounds like any American bureaucracy.
"There is no work out there for these people. Why dont they just give up and go back to Mexico?"
Because they expect the trip back here next time after going home will be more costly. There used to be seasonale migrant workers from Mexico who would cross and recross back and forth depending on job market demand here. Then the border patrols and checkpoints came into being. Guess what? it became less expensive for the Mexicans to move their family to the US and stay in the US through the off-season just so that they don't have to deal with the red tapes to get back in again.
cross and recross back and forth depending on job market demand here. Then the border patrols and checkpoints came into being. Guess what? it became less expensive for the Mexicans to move their family to the US and stay in the US
Bullsnit. They moved their families here for the free medical, welfare, WIC, education, section 8, and the rest of the things that stupid Americans are giving away.
"Bullsnit. They moved their families here for the free medical, welfare, WIC, education, section 8, and the rest of the things that stupid Americans are giving away."
If you are in your 20's or 30's, how much medical, welfare, WIC, education, section 8, etc. etc. did you receive? People in their 20's and 30's don't think about those things; the 20-year olds think they are invincible. They chase after money in the form of job opportunities. If they had come here for the freebies, they wouldn't be around the bus stops waiting to be picked up as day laborers; stop the bullshit, and have some logical consistency, please.
"stop the bullshit, and have some logical consistency, please."
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Have you ever heard of "anchor babies"?
When was the last time you dropped by the welfare office or the local health department?
Let me guess: You haven't.
Read your own words in the quote above. You need to take a little of your own advice.
The current population of Mexico is,,,,,,109 Million as per current CIA statistics.
The population has been basically static for the past 40 years.
So,,,are you saying that 100 Million of those people are here in the USA,,leaving 9 Million left in Mexico,??
Thanks,,but I'll take the Gov't statistics.
I enjoy reading HP, since there are a lot of interesting points and facts, but I'm definitely putting it in the 'out there' folder with Art Bell & George Nori types.
Where I live, Santa Maria Ca, the Mexicans pretty much all stay busy working. I've never seen a bunch of them standing around, loitering etc. these are hard working, traditional, polite, God loving, respectful people. Sure, there are the bad apples, but just like the whites and blacks, the bad ones are the minority. If I'm crossing a shopping center parking lot, the white guy in the expensive car wont' let me cross, the poorer Mexican in the old car will wave me through. Really nice people from what I observe and Santa Maria is a mostly Mexican town. I agree the US shouldn't give so many freebies and handouts, bugs the crap out of me too. But I've always been treated really well by the Mexicans, and the funny part is... the ones that are not born here are the nicest ones of all. They are really respectful of older people. My mom and I always say... if you need help from a stranger, the Mexican guy will jump to help you faster than a white guy will. Criminals and rapist amoungst them? sure, but the good Mexicans fear and distain them too. Oh, I'm white, not of any hispanic origin.
I say do not deport one illegal. Just go after anyone who hires one or houses one.Say, maybe, a 10,000 dollar fine for the first offense then start handing out state prison time after that. When business owners see other business owners in prison cells they will not be hiring any more illegals.
If I'm crossing a shopping center parking lot, the white guy in the expensive car wont' let me cross, the poorer Mexican in the old car will wave me through.
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That's funny, because just the OPPOSITE happened to me yesterday. I had a "Mexican" about run me over to keep me from crossing the street. But, the "white" guy in the expensive car was nice, and waved me on through. Oh, and I am "white", of no hispanic origin, too.
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My mom and I always say...
if you need help from a stranger, the Mexican guy will jump to help you faster than a white guy will. Criminals and rapist amoungst them? sure,
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Let me get this straight: If you and your mommy ever need help, you can count on that "Mexican" to be right there. Is that right? Well, please tell us all how you and your mommy can tell the difference between the "Criminal and rapist" Mexicans and the "good Mexicans", when you go to ask for help. Do you ask them if they're "good Mexicans" before you ask for help? LOL Or, have you and your mommy figured out some sort of new "criminal profiling" technique with the "Mexicans"? Plus, how do you know these people are Mexicans? They could be from anywhere in Latin or South America. Or, do you and your mommy have some sort of system to instantly determine one's country of origin, too?
You and your mommy sound like you're quite a pair.
I have news for you little Nancy from the angry response you just gave me... some little Mexican girl. or boy, if you're lucky, is going to be wiping your ass when you're in an old folks home.. what a litte white snit fit you are...
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