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61 comments:
Hillary Rodham Clinton, who took Wall Street to task for its role, promoted her own solution -- a 90-day moratorium on foreclosures, a five-year rate freeze and possible legislation to let lenders restructure at-risk loans without investor consent.
Clinton yesterday faulted Bush's plan for allowing lenders to decide independently which homeowners could freeze interest rates, saying his plan would leave out most of the 1.5 million families facing a big jump in payments next year.
"Throughout the foreclosure crisis, President Bush has ignored the cries for help. Today he responded, but once again, it's too little, too late," Clinton said.
Yes and no. Certainly more dangerous, but I think its because she isn't as stupid as Bush and still takes her money from the Military Industrial Complex.
Clinton is an idiot, but there is no fucking way she is a bigger idiot than Kind Old King George.
Another pic for Websters!!
what is it about the word "adjustable" that folks can't understand?
OK, yeah she is an idiot. But a bigger idiot than Bush?! No F**ckin' way. Bush had that moniker locked up years ago.
did you see when she answered Maria Bartiromo's question "where will the money come from?"
Answer "it will come here it comes from"
classic
did you see her answer Maria Bartiromo's question "where will the money come from?"
answer "it will come from where it comes from"
classic
I honestly don't know who is worse, who will seize of the ABSP market first.
Yeah, but this b*tch promised to pay my mortgage if I vote for her.
I can even move my family out of my mom's basement now!
Idiot or corrupt Wall Street lackey?
HILLARY CLINTON: CAREER PROFILE (SINCE 1989)
Top Contributors
1 Citigroup Inc $635,110
2 Goldman Sachs $631,790
3 Morgan Stanley $476,510
4 DLA Piper $445,220
5 Time Warner $348,840
6 JP Morgan Chase & Co $347,425
7 Skadden, Arps et al $314,140
8 Kirkland & Ellis $291,850
9 Cablevision Systems $276,763
10 EMILY's List $266,127
11 Credit Suisse Group $262,900
12 National Amusements Inc $261,510
13 Corning Inc $251,250
14 Ernst & Young $239,350
15 Patton Boggs $220,038
16 Greenberg Traurig LLP $218,900
17 Lehman Brothers $209,490
18 Bear Stearns $208,735
18 Merrill Lynch $208,735
20 News Corp $194,475
Now you know why she wants a taxpayer funded bailout. The money goes from the middles class to pay the mortgages of the FB's so that the banks won't end up with a bunch of worthless CDO's and toxic debt. She will do this under the guise of helping the poor minorities who were taken advantage of by big bad Wall Street. All the while, her evil relief package will be putting money into the the pockets of the pigmen of Wall Street.
On the bright side, she will tax the shit out of us to give us and 30 million illegal immigrants free healthcare.
WHO LIKES HER?
She's not stupid, just completely willing to do or say anything to get elected.
I'm still stunned that her idea of putting $5,000 in an account for every baby born in America hasn't gotten more of a backlash. She simply has no integrity.
I do not think she will get the nomination and I am glad.
Hillary Clinton, even the Liberals instinctively distrust her.
A Bilderberger/Globalist = just another finger of the same hand that the Bush finger is on.
idiot? Perhaps.
Even bigger idiot? Not even close.
'bout damn time you realize this
LOL...The first response here is a hoax, right?
Hahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Must stop thinking about this...
Hahahahahaha.
Whew.
Put it all together, and it's laughably ugly. With this subprime bailout plan, Paulson and the Bush administration have managed to simultaneously:
* Infuriate the majority of Americans who didn't gamble on expensive homes.
* Propose a bailout plan that will help only a handful of housing gamblers, and not those who are most deserving.
* Severely damage the credibility of the financial system that provides the capital used for making home loans.
* Set a terrible precedent for a bailout regime that can't possibly cope with what's coming down the line.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2007/12/07/bushs-bailout-bait-and-switch.aspx
Americon said...
WHO LIKES HER?
December 07, 2007 7:48 PM
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NOW (National Organisation for Women) are endorsing her. If she wins the Democratic nomination, I think she will be a shoe in for the presidency. Here's why:
Various feminist organisations, universities across the the nation, and promotional media outlets are already circling the wagon in their endorsements of Hilary.
As the national credit fiasco will worsen in 08, look for Hilary to step up pressure for a full-fledged government cash bail-out of historic proportions.
This will galvanize the entitlement mentality of the masses, local and state governments will see this as a solution to their decling tax base, and if the developing recession (depression ?) gets worse, people will be looking to any and all solutions, no matter how ridiculous they sound.
No matter what your opinion is of Hilary, she is well spoken and has the potential to convince a large demographic of voters (e.g. women of all ages and ethnicities, also ethnic groups-hispanics and blacks who believe she is one of "them" and just those who are sick of the GOP)
It will be a close race, but I believe Hilary (the democrat) has a distinct advantage over any Republican. Whoever the republican is, he is essentially coming from the incumbant party- i.e. the party that brought us the Iraq War and thousands of dead people, the economic collapse of the housing market, and who knows what else.
Therefore, all these conditions are ripe for an outsider party (Clinton and the fact that she is democrat and female all play to her advantage.) Game set Match!
I give you President Hilary Clinton and first man Slick Willy.
She's not an idiot. She's just ruthless, evil, and has no mores. The's the Democrats version of the Neocons. She's a Dick Cheney in a skirt. She will flood the country with illegal immigrants, grab the money from Wall Street and destroy the middle class so that we will all be dependent on the government (ie Hillary) for our basic needs. Get rid of the socialists and neocons and this country will be better off.
did you see when she answered Maria Bartiromo's question "where will the money come from?"
Answer "it will come here it comes from"
classic
Yes, she is dangerous, isn't she?
Americon said...
'WHO LIKES HER?'
America will vote her in as the next president in a land slide.
and the world loves her.
Go Hillary!
(i'm one of millions of republicans that plan to vote for her)
truth is, anyone but Ron Paul an kucinich, is good with me
Hillary's $5k baby bond idea alone qualifies her for the title. Democrats and Huckabee love creating more incentive for illegals to come here.
I agree that is likely that Hillary will become president - she is leading the democratic polls and, in the general election, goes against the party that had the power in the last eight years. But even for Hillary, the numbers in the housing market are what the numbers are. There is NO way to have an active housing market at current prices. The only question is how much collateral damage the government will do to the economy in the process of retracting prices. Japan shows that the government can do a lot of damage, e.g. by letting the insolvent banks not fail but live on as zombies.
Hitlery will get majorities of the stupid, the poor, the lazy, the FBs, women, minorities. That is about 80% of the public.
She will win Ronald Reagan style, 450+ electoral votes and 60%+ of the popular vote. The country is now full on socialist/communist and she will give the masses what they want. They want freebies without working. They want "free" health care. They want free housing, free education free everything. In the USSR everything was free and gosh didn't that system work out well.
Thank god I have citizenship in 2 other countries and can easily escpape what is about to happen.
I give you President Hilary Clinton and first man Slick Willy.
No, it's not "first man" it's "first laddie".
I am against any kind of bailout but then again, she could bail out everybody for less then it has cost to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people over non existant WMD's.
I'm a Democrat. This mortgage fiasco got started in earnest on Clinton's watch. BushCo just accelerated it into warp speed.
Hillary has shown herself to be a panderer and what people use to call a "knee-jerk" liberal.
If we ever hope to fix our country, no politician worth anything can offer a knee jerk response to issues.
The $5K baby bond idea is a good one -- if we could keep the federal government's hands off the money. If every kid had one of these, at age 60 they'd have between $300K and $1M in their retirement fund.
Hitlery will get majorities of the stupid, the poor, the lazy, the FBs, women, minorities. That is about 80% of the public.
She will win Ronald Reagan style, 450+ electoral votes and 60%+ of the popular vote. The country is now full on socialist/communist and she will give the masses what they want. They want freebies without working. They want "free" health care. They want free housing, free education free everything. In the USSR everything was free and gosh didn't that system work out well.
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You my friend have hit the nail on the head. The country is now full of "looters" who want anything they can get for free without working. That mindset was the fuel behind the entire mortgage crisis to begin with. "I can get a $800k house for $1,000/month for the next 5 years? Count me in!!"
"She's a Dick Cheney in a skirt. "
That is the most concise summary I have ever seen. Kudos!
Ladies and Republican wacko Ron Paulista germs,
get use to it, Mrs. Clinton will deservedly be the next President of the USA, after she wipes the floor with any Regug opponent.
Meanwhile, you keyboard kommandos should get off your asses, quit spanking the monkey while bitching and complaining like a bunch of faggots and go back to your humdrum, going nowhere jobs,save a down payment, get a jumbo mortgage and enslave yourselves paying interest for the rest of your lackluster lives on a piece of shit house. That's your fate as you all lack the cujones to break out of the box that corporate America and the elite put you in. Meanwhile as a new American, I'm living OFF the system, while you mooks worry about inflation,housing prices, the dollar, oil prices, Social Security, health benefits, eating Alpo in your old age and on and on...all the BS that the ruling class manipulates to keep you all spinning like hamsters on a wheel.
GOD BLESS THE HOSPITABLE & GENEROUS AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. My relatives are also coming soon...
seriously doubt Hillary will win.
Smart voters are not happy with the Iraq invasion, Patriot Act and Kyl-Lieberman. she comes off as a total snake with respect to the national archives and licenses for illegals.
Dumb voters aren't likely to vote for Hillary either because it's going to take a woman with more charisma to convince women and men to break the pattern of voting for a male dominated White House. Dumb voters will vote for Mitt, or Rudy/McCain/Thompson if they have bias against Mormons.
She and the POTUS are one of the same.. Don't be fooled by any more of the this republican -vs- democrat BS! They all serve the same masters.
Vote Ron Paul America's last hope..
CPA-
Hillary's $5k baby bond idea is geared towards college, not retirement. Calculating to age 60, instead of age 18, distorts the outcome.
What about the extra costs of giving illegals an extra $5k bonus to have an anchor baby here while they bankrupt more ERs?
Actually, she is a bigger idiot, since she should know by now what
must be done to resolve the housing crisis:
The free market forces need to resolve this problem - no intervention.
Intervention from the Goverment - no matter how ineffective - will only create larger problems down the line.
CPA said...
The $5K baby bond idea is a good one -- if we could keep the federal government's hands off the money. If every kid had one of these, at age 60 they'd have between $300K and $1M in their retirement fund.
@ cpa on crack,
If the Gov. gives $5000.00 to all the baby's, the parents will spend it,
or
the 'baby' will spend it,
or
the Gov. will spend it
waayyyy before the baby is 60.
Are you kidding????
Look everyone, Hillary will WIN this round.
Because extreme right bigots, have been writing and talking about her every single day for the past 20 years.
Hillary is mentioned on conservative radio stations across the world every second of every day.
Hillary is mentioned by conservative columnist in newspapers, magazines and TV hundreds of times each day.
(I’ll bet if you query the word “Hillary” just here on HP alone, the number would be in the 7 digits.)
Basic advertising 101.
It is naturally impossible for her not to win in a landslide.
Hillary is the Rambo and Rocky of the 0zies; in public everyone says ‘I don’t like Hillary’.
In the privacy of the voting booth, we’re all gonna select a positive America = Hillary.
hey bail out me...i was living on interest income and now i can not...lower rates, inflation and the dollar decline makes it so i neede three times mpre money to continue retirement, no bail out but higher taxes, you try a 75 percent cut in income>.
"Dick Cheney in a skirt"
Priceless.
I sure ain't no Hillary fan. But I ain't no Huckabee fan either. Both of 'em will allow us to be flooded with illegal aliens.
Imagine, if you will, a presidential debate between the two. Let's use old Tim Russert asking them what they will do with illegal immigrants.
Hillary: Well, Tim, I can get 10 million illegal aliens into this country in 60 days.
Huckabee: Well, Tim, I can get 15 million illegal aliens into this country in 30 days. Plus, we'll have free houses for them all.
Hillary: Okay, okay!! I can get 18 million illegal aliens in this country, in two weeks, and they can bring their farm animals with 'em. PLUS, I will give them free houses AND free Health Care. And, we'll offer free abortions to any woman that wants one. As God is my witness.
Huckabee: Stand back there, sister!! GOD is on MY side!!That's it!! I can bring the ENTIRE population of Mexico over here in 2days!! PLUS, i'll throw in free houses, health care, abstinence programs, AND a year's supply of Krispy-Kreme donuts-creme filled!!
Russert: God help us all.
Not sure she's a bigger idiot. But she's definitely a more dangerous idiot.
I think she honestly believes that she's smarter than free markets. That's stupid, even if she is pretty smart.
In her efforts to outsmart the free markets, Hillary will get played by the big banks, big pharma, the hmos, the REIC and maybe even the military industrial complex.
Like all arrogant, meddling intellectuals, Hillary will just make things worse.
Unfortunately, I think she can get elected.
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The biggest Idiot is anyone who would vote for that SHREW!
.
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O.K. guys,
Just think of your ex,
or your current,
or your bitchy mother in law
or your female boss
when you think of Hillary!
.
Clinton is an idiot, but there is no fucking way she is a bigger idiot than Kind Old King George.
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I disagree. Clinton really truly believes that the government fixing interest rates, shielding lenders from investors, and in general dictating how a "free" market should operate will fix things.
Bush is an idiot but I think he knows that the government taking control will only make things worse.
I'm still stunned that her idea of putting $5,000 in an account for every baby born in America hasn't gotten more of a backlash. She simply has no integrity.
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Most democrats don't understand that if you can't simply raise the poor up by giving them more money. The whole system simply adjusts upward and the poor still remain the poor. they seem to think that if they can simply legislate that the minimum wage will be $30/hr that there will be no more working poor because everyone will now be making 60k/yr minimum!
The $5K baby bond idea is a good one -- if we could keep the federal government's hands off the money. If every kid had one of these, at age 60 they'd have between $300K and $1M in their retirement fund.
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No, no no no no!
sure everyone would have between 300k and 1M but what do you think 1M would buy then? It will be worthless.
Putting it another way, what if everyone was a millionaire? 1M would then be the poverty level.
She's stupid for trying to wade this deep into the mortgage mess. If I were a Democratic politician, I would try to avoid headlines around this topic as much as possible. The sensible position will only alienate a large portion of the Dem constituency, and the pandering position will alienate everyone else.
Ehh!
Washington DC = District of Criminals
It's time to form a mob and take them down. This country has become a two-party oligarchy.
EEEE GADS GURL--
Used to love ya', but I CANNOT FuC@#$ing believe you are too stupid to see what Paulson and Gang are trying to slide past ya'...YOU HILLARY of all people should know when to smell a RAT, especially if you are SERIOUS about being our next president!!
They would LOVE to see YOU take over this whole, rotting, stinking pile of garbage...courtesy of G-DUBB and friends...sort of a "Welcome to Washington" thang....
DO NOT be STOOOPID enough to buy into this bail out Hillary...The last thing we need is to artifically prop up this dead patient any longer--Remove the Life Support, and get on with the business of creating a REAL economy, where prudent citizens are rewarded, not criminal speculators and rip off artists...
Thank you very much.
p.s.. How's Bill??
brokersleaveyoubroke said...
"I am against any kind of bailout but then again, she could bail out everybody for less then it has cost to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people over non existant WMD's."
The Red Cross and other relief organizations have long since debunked this "hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people" myth promoted by lefties. According to the Red Cross and U.N., perhaps 35,000 citizens of Iraq have been killed in the war, most NOT by American soldiers. It's really disgusting to see these internet fictions put forth as facts.
American soldiers go out of their way not to hurt ordinary citizens, not always successfully, but with with far greater diligence and concern than those they're fighting. Stop making our soldiers into demons. The few who have done horrible things are just that, the few.
Some anon wizard said: "No, no no no no!
sure everyone would have between 300k and 1M but what do you think 1M would buy then? It will be worthless. "
I thought you HP types were supposed to be smart. What anon says above is nonsense. The earlier a savings account is established, the better. Why not open it when the kid is born? As for the people who chimed in about parents spending the money from the kid's account, well duh, of course it won't work if they're allowed to do that. There have to be restrictions on uses for the money in the account just like IRAs and 401Ks today.
Here is what happens in the real world when retirement accounts are allowed to grow without interference from bureaucrats and Congress:
http://tinyurl.com/yo67kr
full details at:
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba514/
Take a look at what countries like Singapore and Chile have done with their retirement systems. They make us look like fools by comparison.
Please god dont do this to us, the last idiot we got was enough for this century, can we survive another.
Anybody but bush becomes anybody but hillary.
Give us obama, or huckleberry, hell give us gulliani, or a monkey thats been taught sign language.
She is so self absorbed that she has become a political satire unto herself.
Caligula with a skirt.
She's not an idiot, that makes her much more dangerous than GW.
Well, I've gotten news for you boys and bootlickers alike, Hillary is already your next president.
Obama, the other Yale secret society option is just a backup. Just like it went down with Bush and Kerry, both secret society types from Yale. Kerry was the backup.
Secret society is here to stay, boys. Enjoy.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT A BAIL OUT. THEIR IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY ON THIS PLANET. nOT EVEN HILLARY CAN PRINT 7,000,000,000,000.00. CAN SHE?
She reminds me of my mother in law.
'Nuff said.
I expect Hilliary to win and then we can get back our balance of trade with China.We can get her to reach out to her Chinese friends and they will contribute on her behalf.Prest........balanced the problem.Now if we can just get her to put it in the Public trough.....
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