May 01, 2007

Nah, the housing bubble and illegal immigration from Mexico weren't connected

Gotta love the PC crowd who attacked HP as "racist" for bringing this issue up. Folks, the impact of the housing crash on the illegal immigration issue, as well as millions of families on both sides of the border, is going to be tremendous.


And the 64,000 peso questions are - What will the illegals do now? And what will our corrupted Congress and President do with them?

Hattip to socalhousingbubble for the lead.

U.S. housing slump hammers coveted cash flow to Mexico

MEXICO CITY -- When California's housing market was booming, Lucretia Diaz could feel the good vibrations 2,200 miles away in her rural hamlet in southern Mexico. Her husband, Carlos Romero, an illegal immigrant living in Los Angeles, wired her $600 a month from his labors hanging drywall and pounding shingles.

The remittances bought meat for the tacos, new sneakers for the kids and a few extras for the family's home in tiny Juquila, Oaxaca.

No more.

With U.S. homebuilding in the dumps, Romero is working sporadically and sending little money. Diaz and her three young boys are eating rice and beans. She is watching every centavo.

So are economists who track this crucial southward flow of currency. They are worried by what they see. Remittances are the financial lifeblood for millions of Mexican families and a key source of foreign exchange for their government. The $23 billion that maids, cooks and gardeners sent home last year -- almost all from the U.S. -- topped the amount that multinationals invested in Mexico.

But fallout from the U.S. construction industry, which employs 1 in 5 Hispanic immigrants, is now rippling south of the border.

Mexico isn't the only country feeling the effect. Growth in money wired to Guatemala, El Salvador, the Dominican Republic and other Latin American nations has followed the housing market down.

75 comments:

RAYNLA said...

Keith,

Like it or not that sign is telling the simple and plain truth!
Just wait until they get really pissed

Can you say ANARCHY


Message to the President and all the corporations in the US...

WHEN YOU CREATE A MONSTER YOU HAVE TO FEED IT!

Anonymous said...

oh, the Mexicans again. I thought we were going to get rid of them anyway..I L L E G A L did I spell it right?

Anonymous said...

Cute, Illegal’s depress the wages of American Citizens who do the jobs Americans won't do like: Day Care, Construction, Painting and landscaping and no one cares. Yet we should care if a hurts Mexican Citizens.

Now Bush is pushing his NAFTA crap so that truckers from Mexico can move goods throughout the USA legally, using trucks that meet Mexico’s high standards of safety and environmental requirements (LOL) but not American standards. I wonder where the mightier Trucker Union is? Any chance they are going to stand up for the jobs of their current members of just use their money and pander to the Mexicans. God knows the Construction Unions failed, they don’t even try to help American Citizen’s any longer they are trying to recruit the illegal’s.

The AFL-CIO paid for the stands, bathrooms and many of the other accommodations for last year’s Illegal Immigrant march in Los Angel’s as well help organize the event. Since when did the Unions side with increasing the supply of cheap labor? Hell, what better friend could a greedy American business want, they have the Unions supplying them with all the low wage workers they will ever need. Should the current illegal’s want a pay raise they can just pull from farther south of the board, don’t worry Latin American has plenty more.

striker said...

http://www.liveleak.com
/view?i=09b_1177504876

funny video.

Anonymous said...

America is a nation of equal opportunity for all who would like to live here. However, if people are going to sneak accross the border illegally than Ameriica becomes less a nation of equal opportunity for all who choose to come legally. If we don't take a stand the end result is anarchy and America becomes a place for whomever can land on the beach.

I wonder what would happen if America invaded Mexico. Would Mexicans defend America or Mexico?

The housing crash will have a significant impact on illegal immigration. The tide will turn when Mexicans begin running back to Mexico to escape the toxic ARM they were suckered into getting.

Anonymous said...

we live in tract homes that are built by mexicans.......we drive on freeways built by mexicans....we eat at restaurants where the food is cooked by mexicans....our yards are mowed by mexicans......i tell you this........one day real soon the lazy american will rue the day, he or she looked the other way while this illgeal invasion has taken place, all because we are lazy and do not want to be bothered by such things because it would make us think that there is a real problem, God forbid......people in this life, have forgotten what it is to have real problems.....nobody likes problems anymore......they don't want to hear about it, if it does not affect their little worlds that they have built for themselves.....we americans are stupid and our country is dying and no one cares.......

Anonymous said...

KEITH, WHERE DID YOU GET THAT PHOTO... WE HPr'S NEED TO SPREAD THOSE... TELL THE NATION OF THE INVASTION.

POST MORE... OR POST A LINK PLEASE.

=PHUCKTHEFLIPPERS

Anonymous said...

So guess what? Less money being sent home to Mexico. People having a tough time making ends meet in Mexico as a consequence means.........more Northward immigration to find a better life.
If you think the current situation is bad, what till everyone in Mexico decides to move North.

Adam Smith said...

The truth is Americans are willing to do the work that Mexicans are doing, although we're NOT willing to sacrifice our future and health to do so! It's not the WORK, it's the working CONDITIONS.

Anyone see a parallel to housing? This is much like how the housing bubble (and the ready availability of toxic and sub-prime loans) has driven prices so high, that many Americans are unwilling to risk their future and stretch their budget to such lengths to buy an over-priced home!

On the other hand, there are illegals living here who ARE willing to buy, even under ridiculous terms and loan conditions, willing to move three families into a SINGLE-family home. It is the norm, and you're being expected to do the same to survive.

Wake up and smell the roses: you are no longer playing "keeping up with the Joneses", you are now playing "keeping up with the Jimenezes"!

The bottom line is Bush is a HUGE supporter of big-business, as a ready and available supply of cheap labor (without the need to worry about those pesky and bothersome labor laws) is a GIFT from Bush to employers.

Bush is supporting big employers, whether in construction, farming, etc. Bush knows full well the dynamic here: he spent years in Texas. Joe Six Pack might hate Hispanics, but businesses love the easily-exploitable Hispanic workers. It's an employer's wet dream...

The reality is the glory days for the American worker are as dead as Detroit's auto industry. We've exported work wherever possible to China (and if we were closer to China, you'd better believe we'd be crawling with Chinese workers), and since Mexico is so close, it's cheaper to import workers here.

Mort said...

They can always move in with you Keith. LOL

sinis said...

So guess what? Less money being sent home to Mexico. People having a tough time making ends meet in Mexico as a consequence means.........more Northward immigration to find a better life.
If you think the current situation is bad, what till everyone in Mexico decides to move North.

May 01, 2007 9:55 PM



VERY TRUE!! Floods of people are coming across since the word "amnesty" was mentioned on the news. Shit will only get worse until people wake up! I only hope the fucking idiot cunts on the post picture realize that the true "messycans" are actually Indian.Actually, the area known as the United States is more North American than Mexican American. Very few indications of Aztec, etc., having ties this far north. The states these ass wipes keep protesting in are more than likely, Apache, Navajo, and O'Odham - NOT Mexican Indian! Messycans are a mix between old and new world - here's a hint - old world, Indian, new world - white.... hmmmm... I think these idiots need to pay attention in history class, oh thats right, we don't teach that anymore...


Oh, here's one more clue - Mexico got its ass kicked in the war, so sorry...

Anonymous said...

Napalm

area 51 said...

Anonymous 9:55 is right,
The Mexicans will now make an even greater effort to flood the US to get free healthcare, free handouts, free utilities (Think that's a joke?), free food and clothing and 12 Million compadres to join forces with.
L.A., coming to YOUR town....
Face it, the southern US will be annexed by Mexico, it's just a matter of time.

Anonymous said...

Note to illegals- don't adopt communist holidays and demand rights without expecting to piss off otherwise sympathetic people.

At least most illiegals work. Americans don't like the jobs because they have n forms of welfare and generally feeling of entitlement.

Left wing politicians solution: give illegals welfare and a general feeling of entitlement too. That will keep them from undercutting union jobs!

TreatyOfGuadalupeHidalgo said...

Execute american traitors and mexican invaders.

Lost Cause said...

The economy depends on a growing population. Just wait until the effects of removing these people from the equation is felt.

Anonymous said...

Like it or not that sign is telling the simple and plain truth

Really? What truth? Who says California first belonged to the Mexicans?

Wasn't California First populated with Native Americans- NOT Mexicans. The Mexicans STOLE California from the Native Americans. So if the U.S. gives Cali back to Mexico will Mexico give it back to the Chumash and other native tribes? I dont think so Vato

Anonymous said...

O.K, O.K., I read my history!

Now go back to Mexico!

Anonymous said...

frankly, i'm tired of this b.s. it's like a freakin broken record talking about this issue with no realistic solution. it is a non-productive issue unless people are willing to talk about solution and set aside some emotional and impractical sentiments.

Anonymous said...

Just kill the illegals.

Anonymous said...

The US government could shut down the entire Mexican border within a week if they really wanted to.

The truth is letting this grey slave labor slip through benefits the GOP corporate backers.

It have become strange politics when the poor, illegal slaves and the richest gready Americans both have the same agenda against the middle class.

The solution is for the white picket fence middle class to buy guns and round up the illegals, tie to the backs of pick-up trucks and drag them back into Mexico.

Anonymous said...

Well if you think there are a lot of Mexicans here now, wait until Mexico stops being a net exporter of crude oil. Cantarell is crashing.

http://energy.seekingalpha.com/article/25557

"None of this is welcome news in a country that relies on oil exports for some 37% of government revenue. So far, relatively high oil prices have kept the country from feeling the effects of lower output. But prices could continue a recent drop, adding to Mexico's woes from a production shortfall. This year's Mexican budget is based on Pemex's official production targets as well as a relatively high oil price -- about $50 on the world market."

Anonymous said...

there is only one way to make them leave now..........and that too is something that no one wants to talk about either......it is stupid and naive to think that somehow this situation is going to be solved easily....it is not.....they must be made to go back.........it is the only way.........so how do we make them go back? instead of marching here, they should be marching in mexico.....but no, they are here marching...they make me sick and the stupid americans make me sicker......kiss your country goodbye folks.....it is almost over now.....

Anonymous said...

three sets of nice Mexi tits in that picture!

dedesertknight said...

three pair of nice Mexi Tita in that picture

Anonymous said...

My ancestors are from Europe, but I couldn't imagine sneaking into Sweden and then demanding citizenship and benefits. Are they f***ing crazy?

Same thing with Africa... not that I would want to move there. All our ancestors are from Africa.

JAFO said...

Nice sign there Consuela. I have a few Navajo friends who would like to speak with you about whose land this was originally. Maybe the Mexicans will eventually reconquer the Southwest. Then they can send the white man to reservations where we will open casinos and have the last laugh.

JAFO

Anonymous said...

Send all the illegal crop pickers to Oregon, we love them up here. Our state slogan:

Welcome to Oregon!
Se Habla Espanol

Anonymous said...

cheap labor never works out in the long run. Look at the ancestors of the slaves......

James Dean said...

Anonymous said...
we live in tract homes that are built by mexicans.......we drive on freeways built by mexicans....we eat at restaurants where the food is cooked by mexicans....our yards are mowed by mexicans......i tell you this........one day real soon the lazy american will rue the day, he or she looked the other way while this illgeal invasion has taken place, all because we are lazy and do not want to be bothered by such things because it would make us think that there is a real problem, God forbid......people in this life, have forgotten what it is to have real problems.....nobody likes problems anymore......they don't want to hear about it, if it does not affect their little worlds that they have built for themselves.....we americans are stupid and our country is dying and no one cares.......

May 01, 2007 9:38 PM

Yup. Although some of these problems have rebounded upon themselves and were set in motion by baby-boomers. Somewhere in their generation, work became useless if you got your hands dirty or your hair wet. Pay was downgraded since "they didn't go to college" and so forth. Now, in the coastal cities, we have little choice but climb for the ivory tower desk job making decent money. I, for one, loved working at golf courses, nurseries, bookstores, and summer/coaching programs when younger. Can I do that? Not now, not in NY or LA or DC. Not with no community of family or local government left to support me. Not, as I get older, with 200+$ an hour health care sans insurance. America has been fleeced and we are naked now - left to fight over the few clothes left in superpower's closet. And most of those are reserved for foreign investors.

Anonymous said...

Fax or call your representatives. You can use this website:

http://www.numbersusa.com/index

Anonymous said...

All those suckers who applied to come here legally are so stupid. They should have just broken the law and come here illegally and cry racism whenever somebody complains.

Nic C said...

The girls in that picture look pretty hot. Can we keep the hot illegal women?

yabloco said...

If people want to come here and work hard, I don't see any problem with that.

Anonymous said...

The USA is not remotely Mexican's """homeland""".

Small parts of it were conquered by Spaniards.

Spaniards and English were both European conquerors---one has no privilege over the other.

Aztecs and Mayans equally colonized, oppressed and murdered their neighbors.

If you're Cherokee or other aboriginal natives then I have some sympathy for you---you definitely got screwed by the USA. Mexican immigrants? GMAFB.

In Mexico, they deport illegals from Guatemala and Nicaragua because they're taking Mexican jobs. They can't go to Mexico City and demand free education at UNAM despite being illegal immigrants.

My wife is a legal immigrant from South America, who paid the money and time and effort to follow the law scrupulously. (She was legal and in-country when we met.) She was extremely careful and paranoid to make sure she never ever used one dime of taxpayer-funded services, just to make sure there wasn't a problem with immigration. She reported everything on tax forms.

She is 100% against amnesty for illegals, who did everything opposite to her, and want a free pass not to just a free green card, but citizenship.

Anonymous said...

I went to a convenience store at noon today near Tampa FL. Full of construction workers, mostly illegals. Apparently construction in the area is still good, even though nobody is buying anything.

What happens to all those convenience stores as the construction dries up? Lots of Indians from India out of work too? Ooh the humanity.

Anonymous said...

I witnessed the Great Commodities Depression (1980-2000) in Northern Ontario where I even had a hard time finding a summer job to wash dishes.

The Dot Com crash (2001-2005) was pretty bad, but I did survive about 10 rounds of layoffs, although my pay didn't go up at all during this period.

The housing crash (2006?-present) will be the most interesting. I think the reason why housing shot up was because of lowered interest rates and a flight of job seekers into well-to-do areas where the jobs pay well. I am fortunate enough to have bought a house well before the peak of the bubble (in Calgary). I am seeing house prices still going up here because of the rise in price of oil. Many people are trying to talk me into treating my house like an ATM or to move from my "starter home" into a 3000 sq. ft. monstrosity. I don't expect the 'goog times' to last forever, and I'm staying put. With my rise in pay, I am putting in the extra money into extra mortgage prepayments.

As for the illegals from Mexico-->US, they are their own worst enemy. It would be in the best economic interests for legal Mexicans to demand the stop of illegals coming to the US, but they are so easily coaxed into going with the program. I shed nary a tear for them--I hope that because of the housing crash, they have to suck c*ck to even get a $10 lawnmowing gig.

Anonymous said...

what a tangled web we weave

Anonymous said...

As more illegals enter the US they will become more like "lazy Americans" themselves...ironically loosing their worth ethic and demanding more based on being a "native" of North America.

Check out Azatlan for examples of Mexican National Socialism.

Anonymous said...

Get rid of real estate, school and wage taxes.

Implement consumption taxes.

Cow_tipping said...

Anonymous said...
I went to a convenience store at noon today near Tampa FL. Full of construction workers, mostly illegals. Apparently construction in the area is still good, even though nobody is buying anything.

What happens to all those convenience stores as the construction dries up? Lots of Indians from India out of work too? Ooh the humanity.

May 02, 2007 6:47 AM


Not many (I'd say none pretty much) illegals from India work here. There may be a random dependent like a retired or older mother or father of someone who decided to life out their last days with their kids and grand kids no matter what instead of living it alone.
The reason is, there is no land connection, you have to fly in and being a worker you need to have some sort of visa and typically the airport checks are insanely thorough both at exit in India and on landing in the US.
Some one working or owning a convenience store, probably someone who had been here a while legally gotten a green card or citizenship, decided to get out of the grind and open up their own shop. I know several that are doing that. Software engineers too, making 100K+ a year.
Legal immigrants are all dead against amnesty or whatever crap they want.
Cool.
Cow_tipping.

Anonymous said...

Can someone tell me WHY mexicans should become American citizens just because they get a job here?!
If I go to Mexico and get a job, does that mean i should demand citizenship!? And as far as that moron with the sign. If Mexico owned or took over parts of America, it would end up looking like the armpit that is Tijuana...annd the rest of Mexico for that matter. Not in a trillion trillion years.

Anonymous said...

-Anonymous
"I wonder what would happen if America invaded Mexico. Would Mexicans defend America or Mexico?"

It’s in Mexico's Constitution that NON-Mexican citizens can NOT protest or gather. Thus those May 1 marches should they have taken place in Mexico City by non-Mexican's they would have been broken up before they started, and the gathered masses would be arrested and deported in short fasion.

Non-Mexican Citizen’s can NOT own property period. Furthermore Mexico treats illegal's south of its board (Yes Mexico has immigrants, most are just passing through though on the way to the USA but it makes no difference to Mexico) worst then animals. It has been well documented cases where Mexican Police do very bad things (beat/rape) to illegal immigrants when they are discovered. The holding cells for illegals are also the worst prisons in Mexico which is saying something.

In short Mexico demands that the USA stops enforcing our immigration laws yet they enforce their immigration laws diligently.

USA-FIRST said...

Anonymous said: "As for the illegals from Mexico-->US, they are their own worst enemy. It would be in the best economic interests for legal Mexicans to demand the stop of illegals coming to the US, but they are so easily coaxed into going with the program..."

But they are learning fast. This time around they waved US flags, not the Mexican flag at their recent rally.

Anonymous said...

Ughhh. Will you shut the eff up about illegals already? God man you are like a broken record and rather ridiculous.

vegas crash watcher said...

I agree with previous posters: the chicas in the photo are hot. Let in all Mexi girls, and put their men to work or in prison.
Latinas usually prefer white guys anyway.

Ed said...

This is "Reconquista".
There is an argument that General
Santa Anna had no authority to cede territory north of the Rio Grande.

But he used that "authority" to
gain his freedom, so Mexico's case
is partly against Santa Anna, his
heirs, and assignees.

Having "ceded" that area, it was
"intrusion" when Mexico attacked
in the disputed zone.

The rest is ugly, cloudy history.
Most Mexicans believe in good faith
that the Mex-Am war was unjust,
and they are at least partly right.

Emerson hated that war, but later
conceded that important results in
history are often born ugly.
(And Americans were kinder masters
of the land and native peoples;
though that turned out poorly.)

In 2007 CE, the fact is that border
control is a fundamental duty of
government.
Don't need no stinkin government ?

Anonymous said...

Hey Calgary guy funny you mention lawnmowing job. I just moved into a new home and need yard service. I have 2+ acres. I got a few quotes from Americans. Cheapest I got was $50 per mow. Then I asked a couple of Amigos doing yard work next door how much...$25 and they'll trip the hedges once a month too. SOLD!!

I know I'm contributing to the problem, but fuck it, I'm saving $50 a month. I'm a greedy bastard and yes I am putting my personal interests before the interests of the nation. Oh well, so be it.

PS: Don't go all apeshit on me for buying a home. It is a rental but with me paying for yard work as part of the deal. Given the home I got on 2+ acres at the rent I am paying it is more than fair.

Mort said...

The cops used rubber bullets, that should make you happy. Why should I care if this country is overrun by Mexicans? Nobody else cares, and besides, I really don't give a f@ck.

Anonymous said...

What I don't understand is why don't they protest in the street and make demands in Mexico?? Sorry but illegals don't have any rights int his country. I'm not racist, I just follow the law. If any person of any background wants to come here legally and be a productive citizen to society, my arms are open. What these people want is BS!

Anonymous said...

This isn't the only problem Mexicao is suffering from. The Mexican oil company Pemex is running out of oil! They are pumping about 10% less every year. Oil brings in 40% of the country's income. It will decrease to almost nothing in 5 years.

Wait until this happens! You'll have so many crossing the border that you'll need traffic lights!

Anonymous said...

We need more hard working Mexicanos and less of those lazy, tattooed up, smart mouth, meth. snorting American punks that live on momma's dime! When the dollar crashes, and momma's broke may they starve to death!

Give me more Mexicanos and less punks. At least Mexicanos can break a sweat!

Anonymous said...

The truth is these Mexicans are European Immigrants just like us.

Most Mexicans decended from Southern Europe (Latin) while most Americans orginally from the North.

The other, and more important difference is Mexico - Catholic Immigrants and USA - Protestant.

Finanly, there is thing call the Protestant work ethic with is why the USA is the world's only superpower and Mexico is a pile of smelly taco pooping, lazy Catholics.

Fly from Mexico city to Barcelona and the taco shit smells the same...just a coincidence?

Now parts of Los Angeles are starting to smell of the same Catholic taco crap surrounded with sheet metal fencing.

Anonymous said...

Mexicans are just a type of legal slavery, it's the modern why for us to get slaves and then we can send the excess back.

I have no problem with it as long as they stay illegal.

If you screwed the wife of one your slaves did the baby become a slave or did the slave masters take the kid in and kick the slave girl to the curb?

Anonymous said...

Wow.

If you think this issue is anything more than a diversion, you are a retard.

Anonymous said...

The problem is not Mexicans, but people of all races who think they can get the social benefits without working and contributing to the society. Immigration both legal and illegal existed since this country was founded. There was not a quota system at that time. The massive social programs only started in the 1930th. May be I missed something, but I have never seen a hispanic asking you for money, they ask for work.

Anonymous said...

Regarding lawnmowing... why do you feel the need to hire people to do the work that you can do yourself.

This is the reason why America is going down the crapper -- they would rather pay others to do jobs that they feel that is beneath them.

The Roman Empire went down the crapper for the same reasons--a bunch of effete, metrosexual bureaucrats smoking opium on their couches all day hiring cheap labor from other countries rather than pay full price for Roman citizens to do the same work.

If Americans had decided that they should pick their own cotton instead of buying slaves from Africa, the US wouldn't be in this racial hatred mess that it is in today (it would largely be a European country).

I admit that I've hired (non-latino) contractors to finish my basement (not because I am lazy, but because I have lack of knowledge in such matters), but as far as painting, mowing and picking up dog crap goes, I do these things myself.

honica jewinski said...

I wish you would have let my first post through Keith.
But, regarding the sign the mexichicks are holding.... It really is a ridiculous arguement for them to say they are in "their homeland"..... When their ancestors infested this land, it looked like a third world cesspool, having nothing resebling a white western civilization like it does today, it looked just like modern Mexico! When we white Europeans came to this land, we carved out what was once the greatest Nation the world has ever seen. The criminal mexican invaders are just trying to cling to, and leech off of what we whites have created. It has nothing to to with a freaking "homeland" lol.

Smugbastard2007 said...

That's Ok guys. At the rate Latinos are taking over Kalifonia, in 20 years some white boys will be cutting my Latino children's yards.

"Ok grandkids, gather round for a story..a long long time ago there use to be white people in this state"

"Grandpa, you mean like that guy who cuts our grass?"

Anonymous said...

"Can someone tell me WHY mexicans should become American citizens just because they get a job here?!"

Same reason your great great grandparents were able to when they came you you friggen douchebag!!

Anonymous said...

"Regarding lawnmowing... why do you feel the need to hire people to do the work that you can do yourself....This is the reason why America is going down the crapper"


Hey I am a US Citizen of Mexican decent and I hire illegals to cut my yard so fuck it! I am a white collar execx but I can also be flexible and talk to them at their level. I did hard labor when I was young so I can relate. I can also get them to lower thoer rates! It's all good.

Anonymous said...

To the dude that said

Regarding lawnmowing... why do you feel the need to hire people to do the work that you can do yourself. This is the reason why America is going down the crapper -- they would rather pay others to do jobs that they feel that is beneath them.

You are full of shit. To mow my lawn takes 2 hrs minimum. I can pay someone $12.50 an hour or do it myself. My time is worth much more to me than $12.50 an hour. It's simple math and has nothing to do with mowing a lawn being beneath me. Now please get off your high horse before you fall and get hurt.

Anonymous said...

Now that I think of it,I pay 12.50 an hour to Juan because I am too friggin lazy to cut my lawn!! For me it's not about time because that is all I got on the weekends. I am just lazy and I pay 12.50 an hour because I can.

Anonymous said...

"Can someone tell me WHY mexicans should become American citizens just because they get a job here?!
If I go to Mexico and get a job, does that mean i should demand citizenship!? And as far as that moron with the sign. If Mexico owned or took over parts of America, it would end up looking like the armpit that is Tijuana...annd the rest of Mexico for that matter. Not in a trillion trillion years."


well maybe, but the fact is they will not let you work down there. americans can't work in mexico. they won't let you. hmmm, maybe there is a moral to this story...

Joseph James said...

For those who lurk and post, you should all see this video. It is in a mall and involves a mexican and a flower pot. Watch and then ponder the disease ridden, illiterate (even in their own language) third worlders coming here. If you have seen the toilet that is mexico and most of Latin America, then you have seen what the US will look like in another ten years. At that point, it won't really matter about real estate because everyone's standard of living is going to be lower.

Link to vid:
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=47263

That site is a "pro White" site but I cannot find the vid elsewhere. Youtube pulled it. Anyway, worth watching. Ponder it next time you are in line at McD's and see them making your food.

Enjoy!

Anonymous said...

1 - the argument that illigal immigrants "do the work no one else wants" is simply false. supply and demand says that the bigger the supply of labor the less that labor is worth, so having millions of people added to the labor pool undermines the value of everyone in that labor pools labor, period.

2 - If there wasn't cheap immigrant labor available to work the fields, slaughterhouses, resteraunts, janitorial positions, etc those jobs would not simply dissapear into thin air. The employers would be forced to raise wages and improve working conditions to attract local workers and the living conditions of poor and working class americans would be dramatically improved. That's a fact, you don't have to like it but you can't ignore it. We live in a market-based economy, you can't just wish the market away or pretend it doesn't exist. This is a function of capitalism. If you like capitalism you have to accept it.

3- patterns of seasonal migration from mexico through the southwest pre-date the mexican-american war and go back to the time when the southwest was part of mexico. thinking those patterns can be stopped by building a wall is just stupid. The actual result of the tightening of border control has been to INCREASE the number of illegal immigrants in the US. Since the costs and erisks of entry are so much higher it takes a longer stay to make it worthwhile, so now - instead of coming and working for a year and then going home - people from mexico and elsewhere come, find a job, and stay. and then invite their friends and relatives to come too. So border control has actually made the situation worse and is the real reason why the illegal population has gotten so incredibly big in the last ten years.

4 - The people who gain the most in a climate of mass illegal immigration are the owners of the business that violate the law & exploit and abuse people seeking a better life. That's why the government has never and will never take serious action to resolve the issue. Illegal immigration is good for business and bad for working class people, and the government is far more interested in protecting the interests of business then they are of protecting poor people of any nationality. By framing the issue as "immigrant rights" wealthy people co-opt leftist rhetoric to protect a fundamentally right-wing agenda that enriches a minority at the expense of the majority. The actual "illegals" are being used and manipulated as pawns.

4 - The people who suffer the most are the immigrants who spend decades living in fear and uncertainty working obscene hours in obscene conditions. The other big losers are poor americans, especially african americans (who used to perform the low-wage jobs but are now suffering from chronic unemployment).

5 - so this IS an issue of class and race, it's just that most of the so-called radicals have their analysis completely backwards. Fighting for the rights of poor people and supporting immigrants wouldn't mean supporting continued mass immigration through amnesty programs, it would mean putting in a system where seasonal migration is allowed and regulated and where businesses that hire illegal immigrants face MUCH stiffer penalties. Like maybe all their assets are seized and sold at auction. That would dry up the demand for illegal labor in about 10 seconds flat - and with no jobs to attract them the people who are coming here would stay at home and contribute their ingenuity, intelligence, and work ethics to build up their local economies. And maybe even organize to overthrow the despicable puppet governments that the US has set up in their home countries.

AndyS said...

Yeah, they fought real hard for that 'illegally confiscated' homeland for the past 150 years. Now that whitey made it into something, they want a piece of it. Sorry, no stock options here.

Anonymous said...

"If people want to come here and work hard, I don't see any problem with that."

OK, then let it be a level playing field for everyone who wants to come and work hard here. There are millions of people in africa, Cambodia, China, etc. who would be willing to come here and work hard too. Why should Mexicans get preferential treatment? This country, in theory, is governed by laws which state that you may only cross its borders if you have jumped the necessary hoops and have a VISA. If you do not have a VISA and you are not a citizen or green card holder, you are by definition here ILLEGALLY. This law applies to Eskimos, Brits, Somalians, and Mexicans equally.

Very simple formula:

NO VISA or CITIZENSHIP = ILLEGAL
VISA or CITIZENSHIP = LEGAL

Anonymous said...

"There are millions of people in africa, Cambodia, China, etc. who would be willing to come here and work hard too. Why should Mexicans get preferential treatment?"

Motherfucker?!..IF China or India was just south of US, you could bet your white cottage cheese infested ass that there would be keyboard toughguys like you here bitching that there were too many illegal chinks and dot heads from down south! STFU

Anonymous said...

I agree too, now go back to your housekeeping!

Anonymous said...

QUOTE:Motherfucker?!..IF China or India was just south of US, you could bet your white cottage cheese infested ass that there would be keyboard toughguys like you here bitching that there were too many illegal chinks and dot heads from down south! STFU [QUOTE}

Ooooh, looks like we got one of the la raza wannabee aztecs posting.

Do us all a favor and head back to the toilet of the turd world.

Turd worlders (including mexicans) have never developed any kind of sustaining society. Well, I guess the aztec society of slaughtering thousands of its own citizens for ceremony might count.

Room on the lifeboat of WHITE, civilized, developed socities is limited. Mexico sends us the very dregs of mexico here. I know because I see their used toilet paper they thrown on the floor or in the trashcans of public restrooms, their yards full fighting chickens, broke down cars, beer bottles and the gangs that they bring with them. Usually, though, we find one singlewide trailer with two dozen inhabitants or thirty vehicles parked in front and we know it is a mexican abode.

I have seen houses that were bulldozed because the mexicans, instead of keeping the water turned on, cut holes in the sheetrock between wall studs and used that as a bathroom, thereby ruining the house.

Civilized? Nah. Just look at the vid link I posted earlier of the mexican taking a crap in a mall flowerpot right in front of everyone.

Like I said, if we don't stop the insanity now there will be no real estate market or profits because the US will be just like Mexico or Haiti. We owe these people nothing but a kick in the ass to get them out of our country.

Anonymous said...

QUOTE] Smugbastard2007 said...

That's Ok guys. At the rate Latinos are taking over Kalifonia, in 20 years some white boys will be cutting my Latino children's yards.

"Ok grandkids, gather round for a story..a long long time ago there use to be white people in this state"

"Grandpa, you mean like that guy who cuts our grass?" [QUOTE]

Not likely. The kids would be running around saying 'ese' and 'homes' in their lowriders looking for a place to do a driveby, sell some dope or start a new MS13 chapter.

Be realistic. The mexiscum you talk about only exist on Disney shows. I have seen the filthy place that is Mexico. If the mexicans were worth a crap they would have developed their own nation into something considering the vast natural resources that mexico has.

I see the MSM has not commented much on the commie, anarchic, violent mayday parades that the mexicans held. Oh, and 5 May is coming up. More shootings, drunk driving accidents, knifings and general mayhem by the campesinos.

Oh, and make sure you write White boys and White. If we can capitalize Latrino or Black, you can capitalize White. Got it? Good.

Anonymous said...

With the influx of 'wetbacks' here in Ca., you can expect this place to look like Tijuana in very short order!

It's amazing how many are gardners and landscapers, but their own homes look like shit!

Years ago a day laborer was $15 to $20 dollars a day, plus lunch!

Now, they get selective about work and demand $50 to $100....or? a day!

Pretty sweet when you figure in, no insurance, free schooling, medical costs...paying no taxes!

Anonymous said...

You mexicans crack me up!

You talk about how much better things are for us because your here

I've been to Mexico, i've seen the slums, i've seen the way you take care of your neighborhoods!

Now your here, driving drunk with no regards for anyone, lowering our property values and reaping thr rewards of the welfare handout!

Yeah, your really a great bunch, giving back as much as you take!

Adios!

Anonymous said...

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A solution to this immigration problem is absolutly critical, the time to cry, complain or sound off is over.
A valid resolution is needed now!

The truth is that there is fault on both sides--On the US, for not safegarding its borders all these years,(like leaving your house door wide open all day long and not expecting someone to march in and steal your propery), and for being lax on enforcement.

On the illegals, for obvious reasons, for sneeking in uninvited, for taking advantage of the system and for daring to demand rights that they aren't entitled to.
However, not taking sides, I can tell you with certainty that most illegals do not think that sneeking into the US in hope for a better way of life is any crime, or at the very least a great crime.
Their intention was not to break this country's law but to survive.

But Americans are highly intelligent and very practical people, able to solve problems -- even major ones like this with common sense, logic and compassion.
For that reason I think that a reasonable solution could be reached.

What was suggested about business'(who hire illegals) assets be auctioned off or something along that line should be the first step.
1) Applying fines to business, works! If you hit them in the pocketbook, you’ll have their attention, quickly!


2) Give working permits (NOT Residency or Citizenship!!)To anyone that can prove it has been here 5 years or more.

3) Fine them and let them work.
4) Employers must pay at least minimum wage.
5) Enforce border security.
6) DEMAND that they learn English. 7) Don’t allow signs to be posted in public places in any other language, but English.
8) All immigrants must study civics or a take short class on US history and culture.
9) Do not allow anyone to bring parents in (they will be a burden to the system, as they get old).
10) Do not allow children to join parents until certain period of time has elapsed.
11) Stop or reduce all other type of immigration permits or visas, for a 10 year period, to allow for some sort of assimilation.
12) STOP Non-profit organizations, and Social workers all over the country from encouraging the “you have rights here" mentality.
13) Enforce the laws, encourage integration.

A lot of the reproachable behavior that we see in these people comes from ignorance, not bad intentions. A high percentage may not be educated, but are intelligence and do want to integrate.