What does it mean to be an HP'er?
April 24, 2007
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38 comments:
To think massive inflation is coming - but not to buy hard assets like housing (only gold) and at the same time think massive deflation is coming hoard as much cash as possible.
To push for a socialist American government - then complain when the only thing to live in are massive concrete housing projects (like of the same kind that dotted all across the USSR)...and complain that you get to less than 50% of your money (after taxes) and can't afford anything...
Marky Mark
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Whats it like to be an HP'er?
You do your own thinking.
You question the government (the font of right wing libertarian nonsense).
The Chimp is neither a saint, nor a king. And he doesn't talk to god either.
You question the whole corporate notion that you "should buy now with credit".
The MSM is not independent. They do what their corporate masters tell them to.
An HP-er is an eternal pessimist who hopes for something bad to happen so that they can say "I told you so".
When it doesn't happen, they say it will, one day.
This personality will go to great lengths to convince everyone how bad things are, when it hasn't happened yet.
We all see it coming; the question is how many are trapped without hope and how many are simply in apathy because they feel powerless to do anything about their own situation. The HP-er solidifies that hopelessness.
An HP-er is someone who works for Hewlett Packard.
No one wants to be in your stupid club.
It means having to put up with keith pushing every hot button topic, and taking the wrong side to boot. It also means watching the meltdown in real time.
Men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to believe, but in proportion to their readiness to doubt. This should sum up what being an HP'er or a free thinking person. Mosut people avoid the pain of thinking and despite their protestations do not want to be free or to think things out for themselves. In fact the schools are so debased that few really can think. What you see is the sort of thinking that animates the babbling of the trols--belive the american dream, they are smart as they bought a house and its gone up in "value", and if you disagree with them not only are you wrong--you are crazy, a loon, bitter renters, etc.... So what is an HP'er? Ideally, somebody who can see through the B.S. promulgated by the financial services and reic industries that is sold as "values" and "american way of life". Buy, borrow, have a high FICO score and you are a good american living right. An HPer or a non robot does not belive this.....
You noticed you had a backbone. And that the herd of jellyfish were being sucked into the intake valve of San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant, under a flashing neon sign that says lottery winners enter here.
Coconutz
Yawn!
This question is a trick to get me to reveal my true location luckily the tinfoil hat blocks the suns gamma rays allowing me to think clearly and see the threat!!!!
(shuts door on bomb shelter)
You are a prescient realist; you know how to read cues, and are emotionally unattached to their meaning. You are slightly ahead of the curve. You are familiar with pain, risk, loss and choices, both good and bad. You try to warn others, but you do not feel perplexed when they babble denials. Because, above all, you are patient and understanding.
It means watching the housing crash because it's funnier than The Simpsons, South Park, and Beavis & Butthead all put together!!!
HPers buy things with cash not credit, are ready for the crash, and are contrarians mocked by the ignorant masses
A little mixture of all of the above.
True HPers: Contrarians (objective independent thinkers who are reasonable & make long term prudent investments/fiscal decisions)
HP extremists: Overly negative chicken littles who feel disenfranchised by the bubble and want revenge in the form of a schadenfreude crash satisfaction.
HP Trolls: Anyone who has a vested interest in the housing bubble and are in denial because they do not want to accept the fact that housing perspective is returning to houses as homes & not investments which make a quick buck. You're cheese has moved just accept it & find new cheese.
--both the extremists & the trolls are short term thinkers & reactionaries. There is no depth of thought nor objective analysis, just bias & emotive spasms that come off as trite misguided commentary.
It means never having to say you are sorry...
Corollary to Anon 8:04 -
HPers tend not to worry about money.
HPers are concerned about the big picture trends, and how they will affect society at large.
Yet maintain a sense of humor. This blog has its hobby horses, but the laughs keep me coming back.
It means to do a touchdown dance on the grave of the HP troll!!!!
Makes me put 'Freude' into 'Schaden'. Schadenfreude the american way.
There's absolutely nothing that can top or stop this supposedly 'contained' debacle, the greatest misallocation of wealth in the history of man, in the coming 7 years. Great show.
Means, leaving in Mom and dads basement waiting for the end to happen.
Frank nailed it. An HP'er is a strategic thinker with an acute sense of humor.
HP verion 1:
rented from 2001-2006. jealous as shit of his idiot brother in law who made $3M buying and selling real estate. wants paypack (80%)
HP version 2: sold in 2005, wants to show the world how smart he was.
(15%)
HP version 3: Absolute nutjobs who makes Lyndon Larouche seem reasonable. (5%)
It means Greg Swann will be working the chow line and mopping floors at Club Kasey for years to come...
To stir the pot.
Small Hat
Is this question supposed to be a joke?
Queif, you're a self-important loser. Everyone here is laughing at you!
"Duh, What does it mean to be an HPer? Duh..."
What a friggin' idiot...
Being a contrarian, seeing the big picture, having a place to (sometimes) find like minded thinkers at at time when reality seems to conflict with all common sense.
Once the prices are down 30%, the whole world will be saying - "Oh, it had to happen". They will forget I was saying it years ago, but no matter - I won't need to seek out like minded thinkers. They will be everywhere.
In fact, I just saw one on FOX!Cavuto - Lee Iacocca talking about America's direction and it's lack of leadership.
BTW - Iacocca doesn't seem to think the sub-prime bailout is anything like protecting America's manufacturing base. One is like giving a man a place to fish in the USA and the other is giving a man another fish borrowed from China.
Anonymous said...
Is this question supposed to be a joke?
Queif, you're a self-important loser. Everyone here is laughing at you!
"Duh, What does it mean to be an HPer? Duh..."
What a friggin' idiot...
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This post is most likely from a realt-whore or someone who needs to sell his home.
I disagree with Keith on many things, but I have to say, his blog is one of the most entertaining I've ever seen, precisely because it stirs the pot.
He's been correct about many things, and if he's humble enough to learn new things (I think he is), he could become a very savvy guy.
I don't think he's that self-important, because he lets all of my negative comments onto the blog. If it were MY blog, I would delete most of the bad stuff about me!!!
an hp er is one that cares about what happens to our friends and family, community, our currency, savings,
enough to warn all the sheeple so that they dont get f$cked. and when dont listen and look for themselves, we throw up our hands and laugh.
whatelse is there to do.
heres to you keith, you helped more people than you will ever realize.
Hp'ers have a brain and a good humor.
I hope HP'ers change the way others see things or at least inspire them to always question and to dig deeper.
HP is a great blog to rat out the scum that has invaded the realty business. Anyone coming to HP will become an informed home buyer. It's kind of like helping others, instead of bilking others out of there life savings.
Even if I disagree with Keith sometimes, he does a great job with this site. He provides a place where we can get together and have meaningful discussions albeit sometimes not so much. He posts the good and bad, wheter attacking him or not.
My hat off to you Keith. I'm sure many of us appreciate what you do.
5:19:
he deletes plenty of my negative comments. keith is a sharp guy but man does he have a thin skin. And have you ever seen him admit he was wrong about ANYTHING? He makes plenty of wild predictions. A few of them come true he takes credit for causing it. Most are dead wrong, total silence.
How about the call he made earlier this year that US equities would crash and burn....how about Keith, man enough to say you were wrong?
Oh but wait I know what the answer will be - "just wait another 6 months and you'll see I'm right". Just like "there hasn't been a 50% crash in r/e prices like I predicted, but just wait 6 months or 12 months or 3 years".
Fun blog though
This blog has done nothing but come into its own since I started following it in December. Keith's done a great job as far as weeding out the developmentally arrested cowards who, as others have pointed out, have nothing to offer.
I thought this was the best characterization:
True HPers: Contrarians (objective independent thinkers who are reasonable & make long term prudent investments/fiscal decisions)
HP extremists: Overly negative chicken littles who feel disenfranchised by the bubble and want revenge in the form of a schadenfreude crash satisfaction.
HP Trolls: Anyone who has a vested interest in the housing bubble and are in denial because they do not want to accept the fact that housing perspective is returning to houses as homes & not investments which make a quick buck. You're cheese has moved just accept it & find new cheese.
--both the extremists & the trolls are short term thinkers & reactionaries. There is no depth of thought nor objective analysis, just bias & emotive spasms that come off as trite misguided commentary.
To the above I would add:
Like-minded individuals (emphasis on individuals) who can manage a complex world without letting fear get the best of their intellect or their emotions.
As to this:
Anonymous said...
"Duh, What does it mean to be an HPer? Duh..."
If you think HP is a place for losers or that the blog owner qualifies as such, just why are you here??? Is this blog just an unwelcome distraction from efforts to cure cancer or broker peace in the middle east.
The likelihood is you wake up every morning knowing that noone cares what you think, what you do or what you say.
Keith wakes up every morning knowing thousands of people tune into this blog.
Bitter pill isn't it...
Even if I disagree with Keith sometimes, he does a great job with this site. He provides a place where we can get together and have meaningful discussions albeit sometimes not so much. He posts the good and bad, wheter attacking him or not.
My hat off to you Keith. I'm sure many of us appreciate what you do.
Being an HP'er means no cash back at closing...
Thanks folks for your kind words and kudos to the HP community
Days when the pathetic greg swanns and evil reic attack me and the blog make me wonder if it's all worth it.
It's all worth it.
F the REIC. F the housing bubble. And F the NAR! Victory will be ours.
Even though victory will mean one hell of a mess for everyone.
Get ready.
It's about being right all along (except for DOW 8,000).
Being an HP'er means your house was built by U.S citizens and no Americans were killed by drunken illegal alien construction workers driving with fake licenses...
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