November 22, 2006

An HP Rant: The criminal Mexican invasion of America and the late great American housing ponzi scheme

Yes, folks, it all goes together...

Millions (the government says 11 Million, I'd lean more towards
20 Million) of Mexicans illegally broke into the United States over the past decade. Invaded us. Broke our laws. Cheated the system. Jumped the line. Call it what you will, and I'll call it what it is - an illegal invasion.

It is not racist to call Mexicans "Mexicans". Just like calling Russians "Russians". Get over it, and get over your PC-self on this one.

These gate-crashers stormed America and stole the jobs of legal Americans. So at the same time we were losing our manufacturing base to China, we lost millions of other jobs to illegal Mexicans at home and had our wages surpressed by a new, ready-made and illegal labor force.

Do I blame the Mexican people? No. If I lived in Mexico and job prospects were bleak, I couldn't feed my family, and there was a way to make a better living by simply walking across the border, I'd have to think about it. Illegal or not. People are going to do what they need to do to better themselves and take care of their families.

So I simply blame the US and Mexican governments and the businesses that knowingly hired them.

The Democrats want votes (and millions of birthright US citizen Mexican babies born on US soil), as they were out of power and desperate.

The Republicans were doing what they do best - helping American businesses lower costs and increase profits. A wave of slave labor who'd work for peanuts vs. legal Americans was too good to pass up for the GOP and their business buddies.

And now the Dems and GOP are even thinking of offering the illegals
amnesty. Now there's a terrible idea.

Then of course, there's the corrupt Mexican government. They love the billions and billions of US$ being sent back to Mexico.


And you know who LOVED this illegal invasion of the US? You got it - the REIC. The housing bubble demand for new houses required significant new labor - roofers, fencers, painters, framers, etc. It's estimated 30% of all construction jobs have now gone to Latinos.

To earn those
massive bonuses, the REIC CEOs also needed to lower their costs at the same time their profit margins were exploding due to irrational pricing. The key was hiring cheap illegal Mexican workers to replace the fairly paid American workers.

Cha-ching.

Well, everything was great for awhile - for the Mexicans, for the Democrats, for the GOP and for the REIC.

And then the bubble burst.

So now what do we have? Well, for starters, we've got 20 Million Mexicans stuck here in the US and many of them now without jobs. We've got hundreds of thousands of new Mexican US citizen
birthright babies with illegal and unemployed parents. We've got millions of Americans who've lost their jobs to illegal Mexicans, and we've got a declining US wage due to the millions of illegals in the US who'll work for cheap.

What we'll have next is an exploding crime and unemployment rate, soaring costs for supporting the illegals and their babies, and some serious moral issues of what to do with the illegals we no longer need now that the REIC jobs are going away.

You thought the illegals were pissed this summer when they were out protesting in the streets? Well, just wait, because now they're
unemployed, hungry and even more pissed. And to add insult to injury, some of them even bought homes at the peak using toxic mortgages and are well on their way to defaulting and running.

Now that's squaring the circle, wouldn't you say?

123 comments:

Anonymous said...

keith, don't you think we have gone past this stage now? okay, we know we have a problem. we know that there's some 11 or 20 million of them. the question is; what is the solution. some repubs (i.e. j.d. hayworth) who took a strong and stearn stance lost in the nov. 7 election.

moving forward, what soultion can you offer keith? let's not get stuck with the same argument. let's not waste our time on something that is an old issue, without offering some creative solutions.

I Love Broadband over PowerLine said...

REAL ESTATE REALITY HURTS. !!!

keith said...

Great question.

My solution is:

1) make it illegal with $100,000 fines to knowingly hire any illegal of any nationality

2) make it illegal to offer any government services to any illegal

3) build the fence and send the military to the border

4) check documents and increase deportations

5) announce loudly that we're going to uphold the laws of the country and that anyone in the US illegally will be rooted out and sent home

6) Increase the number of legal immigrants allowed into the country, with a clearly defined and fair process for becoming a US resident and eventual citizen.

7) Do NOT offer amnesty of any kind. That just encourages and rewards illegal behavior.

Harsh? Yes. Necessary? Yes.

Charles said...

Keith...

A-
Gosh Darn Mutha Frackin'
-men, Brother!

Anonymous said...

No problem calling Mexicans that - Mexican, but you use the word to mean "illegal immigrant" when in fact an illegal immigrant can be Chinese, Canadian, Salvadorian, Italian, Honduran, French, Japanese, etc... but you chose to interchange a crime, "illegal alien" with only one nationality. Yes, I know it sounds like semantics - but how would you feel if everyone interchanged the words "arrogant-fat-racist-xenophobes" with "American" - oh wait never mind.

Anonymous said...

The problem with amnesty is, once these people are legal, the companies hiring them won't want to pay minimum wage and will go seeking a new wave of illegals.

Don't worry. Once the bottom falls out things will change fast. Americans are too fat and happy right now to really care.

Anonymous said...

The solution is to allow any citizen to sue a company that hires illegal for damages AND a job. And they have to pay for the attorney's bills.

That way we don't have to wait around for the government to do something, which it doesn't seem to want to do.

Tom DC/VA said...

1) by far the most important, $100K is excessive, knowing mass hiring of illegals should be a criminal offense, not just civil
2) silly
3) pork project, overkill
4) follows from 1
5) follows from 1
6) no, we've got plenty of Americans
7) agreed

If you really wanted to pile on you'd also propose amending the constitution to say that only children of legal immigrants born in this country have automatic citizenship rights.

One note of caution: your proposals would almost certainly lead to a lot of discrimination against native-born Latinos, many of whom have roots going back over 150 years, and possibly other minority groups. That is non-trivial problem.

Corvinus said...

keith, don't you think we have gone past this stage now? okay, we know we have a problem. we know that there's some 11 or 20 million of them. the question is; what is the solution. some repubs (i.e. j.d. hayworth) who took a strong and stearn stance lost in the nov. 7 election.

The corrupt RNC sabotaged Hayworth's and Graf's campaigns to make an example of them. Besides, it's inaccurate. Members of Tancredo's Immigration Reform Caucus were only half as likely to lose their seats as nonmember Repubs.

One note of caution: your proposals would almost certainly lead to a lot of discrimination against native-born Latinos, many of whom have roots going back over 150 years, and possibly other minority groups. That is non-trivial problem.

I doubt that too many Latinos have roots here going back 150 years... [sarcasm]maybe on the order of 15% or so.[/sarcasm] Those who do would stick out by speaking fluent accentless American English.

Anonymous said...

Straight up brother. But um, Keith, could you tell us how you really feel.

I had my roof redone on my tiny gold mine of a shack on a resort east coast island a few years back. The guy I hired brought along 3 young men who appeared to come from a large country south of Arizona. The guy told me they were hard working and did a great job for him, and that he would never hire another "islander" again. My roof never leaked in 35 yeears. Days after these hard working guys finished and for months on end, my damn roof leaked right into my bedroom and onto my bed. I never saw those guys again, and the guy I hired finally gave up on trying to fix it. I Finally decided to sell the house for other reasons and cash in with the roof in the disclosure. Made 250k, and now I'm renting cheap. HIRE the guys that are paying taxes and don't hesitate to ask for proof if their employees are legal. I do it now.

Anonymous said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

Anyone remember Ike and Operation Wetback?

The Real Bob said...

My favorite comment is..
"They do the jobs that you don't want to"

This is the biggest load of crap. We have a shitload of poor americans and highschool students trying to earn a buck at these lowere tier jobs. All they do is steal jobs from the poor and depress the wages of the lower income jobs. Which, is why we are forced to raise the minimum wage.

Patch Tuesday said...

Show me a good American that can read this one line from those articles and hold still hold their breakfast down:

"Sub-contracting gives the business owner the ability to use specialized workers only for as long as they are needed. It also gives the company the opportunity of accepting the lowest of all possible bids and frees them from having to pay out for health insurance, unemployment tax and workers' compensation."

Anonymous said...

Wanna end the illegal mexican problem in less than 1 hour? Shoot them when they cross the border and then throw the bodies back into Mexican. Problem solved, guaranteed.

Anonymous said...

Oops, "Mexico", not "Mexican".

Anonymous said...

I think you missed the REAL ponzi scheme - it is called Social Security!!!
The baby boom surge is about to hit with a vengance - the only hope is that maybe 1/4 or so of those illegals might integrate into our society and start getting paychecks with SS deductions.
If that doesn't happen then you under 30 people are going to get royally screwed by the "greedy geezers"

Anonymous said...

Harboring a fugitive is against the law. Renting an apartment or providing a job to a person in the USA illegaly is harboring a fugitive.It is quite clear.

Anonymous said...

Keith Said:

"My solution is:

1) make it illegal with $100,000 fines to knowingly hire any illegal of any nationality

2) make it illegal to offer any government services to any illegal

3) build the fence and send the military to the border

4) check documents and increase deportations

5) announce loudly that we're going to uphold the laws of the country and that anyone in the US illegally will be rooted out and sent home

6) Increase the number of legal immigrants allowed into the country, with a clearly defined and fair process for becoming a US resident and eventual citizen.

7) Do NOT offer amnesty of any kind. That just encourages and rewards illegal behavior.

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1. Agreed, but take out "knowingly". It leaves to many loopholes. If we saw the some convictions to the greedy who hire to save $$$, everyone would get up to speed real quick and take the time to screen properly. Many companies perform background checks and do grug tests. There is no reason to hire an illegal, knowingly or not.

The Employers (along with laxed Govt policy) is the REASON!

2. agreed

3. Not only that, but a "shoot on site" policy would be a nice deterrent to those caught.

4. agreed

5. yes

6. I say put an end to immigration altogether.

7. yes.

Keith, your position is strongly similiar to your nemesis, Bill O'reilly - maybe you are starting to see the light.

tabasco jenkins said...

Keith,

Wow, are you a whiny bitch.

England should do all of that to you for showing up and stealing a real Englishman's job.

skianddive said...

Yup, that was an awesome Rant. Absolutely spot on, dude. The Bushies opened the floodgates because they were told to by The Chamber of Commerce.
My fear? With rising unemployment and job scarcity becoming more common you will see a repeat of the 30's. Armed intervention and deportation. The citizens will demand it.
Its disgusting what I see in the mountain west. Massive groups of illegals wandering around town spewing Spanish as if they own the place. Disgusting.

Anonymous said...

Trust me those contracors that hired ilegals wont be too safe if the economy tumbles .
I know myself and A few other friends have discussed (things) about how we would like alittle payback for being driven out of roofing.
Family everything is fair game when you do what these people have done that hire illegals.

Anonymous said...

Careful what you wish for, Keith.

You're asking for a police state.

Necessary? NO

Anonymous said...

President Kennedy was assassinated 43 years ago today. You can trace all the rot in this country back to his unsolved murder. That was the begining of the end for the United States as the leading industrialized nation on this planet.
Under JFK we had a regulated economy where most of what is being done today (including the massive importation of cheap labor) would be illegal.

There has been no economic growth in this country in real physical terms since about 1966.

Anonymous said...

Mexicans are doing more then labor jobs. They now owns business of all types. Its not just Mexican invasion the influx of asians(korean), arabs, indians come to Cali and see all the indians,asian working in the tech areas lowering wages and willing to live in shitboxes. its all over for this country, no it time to just get yours.

Carmelito said...

Gringos...you're wasting your energy ...the Reconquesta is under way.
Hey..you hava any sistas?

Naomi Spathe said...

I'm missing something.

If there are about 150 million people in the labor force...
and approx. 4.5% are unemployed...

That's about....6.75 million people.

If there are 11-12 million illegals currently working...taking jobs from americans....and they all leave (or are sent home), don't we get full-employment, inflation, and a labor shortage?


In other words...hasn't the American economy found a place for them?

What am I missing?

Anonymous said...

I am not big on Political Correctness and I agree with a lot of your new post...but please DO NOT EQUATE MEXICANS with ILLEGALS!

Also this issue is too complicated for one post, there is a lot of things you didn't cover, for one is that ammenisty would bring in 20 million taxpayers into this country! (Something that might help with the Social Security Problem??)

Anonymous said...

keith, what about this:

1.) no amnesty - agree!
2.) temporary worker can be hired through an approved agency responsible for their presence and departure after their term is complete. failure to do so will impose a hefty fine to the said employment agency.
3.) border security - absolutely!
4.) legal immigration must be base in "point" system like canada and make education, ability to speak english, as one of the few criteria.
5.) round up all illegals and turn them over to their respective embassies. thereafter, any illegal found benefiting from our government services or entitlements, will reduce any foreign aid to the said country responsible, equal to the cost of government services provided.

how's that.

honica jewinski said...

For all of you castrated, feminized white males out there that defend this criminal mexican invasion. Think about how many Americans died on 9/11...... You surely hate those evil arabs for killing all those Americans right? Well guess what, in America today, these criminal mexican invaders now kill that many people EACH AND EVERY YEAR! You wanna defend these criminal invading mexican savages? Fine, but I won't shed a tear if one of your children are mowed down in the street by a drunk mexican driver or gang member.

airsanford said...

land mines.

Pat's Steak said...

Anyone here read

"The Grapes of Wrath"?

I am constantly reminded of this book. Thinking of all the "Okies" rolling into California hoping for work only to find more desperation.

When (ha! when... I mean now!) housing construction collapses and the major builders just stop for a year or two. I fear and loath what the landscape will look like, millions of illegals without work, refusing to leave (cause they have nothing back home) and starting trouble or have trouble started on them....

It will get ugly...

twist said...

My grandfather came to the United States from Mexico in the 1920s to work in the auto industry. When the stock market crashed in 1929, Mexican nationals were fired from the auto companies, mainly Ford, and ordered out of the country. My grandfather lost his job.

Try Googling "repatriation" - that's when Mexicans and Americans of mexican decent were deported. Exact numbers will never be known, but it was in the hundreds of thousands. It didn't help the economy the way people thought- they deported a bunch of consumers.

The family doesn't talk about it much- so the details are sketchy. My grandfather married a US citizen at the time the "repatriation" was occuring- this did not protect him however. He was deported, and my grandmother, of Mexican and American heritage, fled to an Aunt in rural Kentucky.

A single mother without resources, she ended up dying of TB at 27, having never seen a doctor. My mother still suffers from the result of a serious injury she had as a child that went untreated.

My mother grew up in the California foster care system. She worked her way through college and now has an advanced degree- as do all of her children.

I wonder what would have happened if my grandfather had not been deported. I might have grown up knowing my grandparents, my mother could have had medical treatment, and the state of CA wouldn't have had to pay to raise my mother.

Like most 2nd and 3rd generation Mexican-americans, you wouldn't know my heritage if I didn't tell you. My appearance, my name, my accent won't give me away- l am an educated American.

Illegal immigration is a serious problem that needs to be addressed. However the Repatriation didn't benefit America, and hurt a lot of Americans. The pain is still here, 75 years later. Please look at our history, and learn from it, before advocating policies that are detrimental to US citizens.

Patch Tuesday said...

Anon says: "the only hope is that maybe 1/4 or so of those illegals might integrate into our society and start getting paychecks with SS deductions.
If that doesn't happen then you under 30 people are going to get royally screwed by the "greedy geezers"

I thought in those article I read that their average wage is $9 per hour? And your expecting a bailout from that? They suck out way more than they put in...

honica jewinski said...

I advocate deporting ANY AND ALL legal or illegal mexicans that have invaded America in the past 75 years, along with any and all offspring they may have had.

Patch Tuesday said...

Naomi says: "In other words...hasn't the American economy found a place for them?

What am I missing?"

Dear Naomi,

Where did all of the people that use to do these jobs go? Did this uneducated, always present class, of low-end Americans go off to college? Are they now aerospace engineers?

Or, are they robbing your homes and selling crack on the street corners because theire jobs were taken?

Garth said...

You nativists want the impossible: no imported workers from Mexico, no jobs sent overseas, high wages for 'mericans, but also affordable lifestyles. Sorry, the math does not work.

If you seal the borders then you send more jobs overseas and what jobs that can't be will command a higher wage which means prices will rise. Some industries will simply be lost. Some will become more mechanized which means outright job losses.

And when you make it harder for migrants to cross the border you make them more likely to try to move here permanently and bring their families. For hundreds of years the border was open and mexican workers would come here to work a season or two and go home: they did not want to permanently locate here. With all the fences and trouble you've increased the willingness for them to permanently move.

What is needed is very large legal guest worker program with quotas and with finite terms of stay.

Patch Tuesday said...

Anon says: "DO NOT EQUATE MEXICANS with ILLEGALS!"

Dear Anon,

Ever hear of that thing called "peer pressure?" It's used by a group that's getting the shaft by other members of their group to end the problem. How many legal, former Mexicans do you see in this country turning in their illegal, breathen?

Anonymous said...

Honica writ:
For all of you castrated, feminized white males out there that defend this criminal mexican invasion. Think about how many Americans died on 9/11...... You surely hate those evil arabs for killing all those Americans right?
===================================
You sure are operating under a false assumption. To date I havent seen any proof of exactly who was behind the "911" attacks. And I've seen no real effort but US government agencies to get to the bottom of that attack.
No wonder youre such a screaming mimi, you jump from one wrong conclusion to the next.
And for those crying about the invasion of cheap labor from the south. Have you clowns any idea what has been done to the economies of Mexico and the rest of Ibero-America by the same financiers which are in the process of destroying the US economy? There isnt an illegal immigration problem there is a "collapsing" world economy which is at the fag end of 40 plus years of what they called "the post industrial society".

We must help Mexico and ourselves re-develop our physcial economies, then you wont have any Mexicans goming across the border.

FDR's Good Neighbor policy is a good example of whats required.

foxwoodlief said...

I know it isn't politically correct to call the illegals an invasion but that is what it is no matter what the nationality. I personally don't have an issue with immigration but it should be legal and if the demand is there we should allow it as long as it benefits the USA. We need an open door for those with skills, education and resources. We do need lesser skilled immigrants too. I don't see too many welfare folk working the fields and if we suggest workfare instead of welfare we are accused of slavery. Work is slavery when you don't work for yourself or reap the rewards of your labor.

The biggest problem is Mexico cries foul and racism when we try to confront the problem yet if 20 million yankees crossed the border there would be an outcry of imperialism. Nationalism is very strong in Mexico and we'd probably be at war if half that number of Americans invaded their country. Americans don't have half the rights there that illegals have here.

The other problem is the rich there won't share the wealth and use emmigration as a safety valve. After all the years of NAFTA and being next to the biggest consumer in the world you'd think Mexico would have the industrial growth of China or Vietnam but no, they have a corrupt, backward, country. The north is richer and the indian south is poor.

If the Illegals didn't have work here and send their money home there definitely would be a revolution there.

I say make a treaty but one that is two-way. Make Mexico part of the common wealth and force them to adapt to our ways and let our laws rule! When Americans in Mexico can have the same rights as Mexicans in the USA then Mexico might have a chance of becoming a prosperous country that shares the wealth and then young Mexicans won't need to leave for the USA.

Anonymous said...

No Amnesty for illegals.

Deportation of illegals.

Amend the Constitution to bar citizenship to children born to a single parent that is a non-citizen and here illegally.

I have no problem with legals.

tabasco jenkins said...

I love how people with enough spare time and money to post comments on a housing blog complain about having their jobs stolen by folks who are standing in line at the crack of dawn every morning looking to work doing whatever hard labor job they can get.

It's even richer that the person who started the complaining is himself an immigrant in a country he was not born in, working a job he "stole" from some perfectly qualified native born worker.

I would wager many of these same complainers (judging by the Michael Savage model of white male nativist whiners) would like to see affirmative action eliminated and for hiring to be based purely on market forces, even though the other side of their mouth turns around and asks the government to help them fight market forces by combatting competition from immigrant labor. What a bunch of hypocrites. The market is either all powerful and good, or it isn't and requires government intervention. It is not all powerful and good only when it helps you and you only.

And if you decide the market requires government intervention, then don't complain about affirmative action, and then force the government to reign in the market on immigrant labor by regulating the source: the businesses who hire the labor, and not the laborers whose only fault is that they don't have as much of a sense of entitlement as you do.

Otherwise, you're all a bunch of hypocritical whiners.

honica jewinski said...

Ya know, the more I think about it, the more I think we need to bring all of our troops home. After they get here and arrest 99% of congress, senate and the house of represenatives for high treason, we should invade our real enemy.......Mexico!

Patch Tuesday said...

tabasco jenkins said:
I love how people with enough spare time and money to post comments on a housing blog complain about having their jobs stolen by folks who are standing in line at the crack of dawn every morning looking to work doing whatever hard labor job they can get."

Gee Tabasco, do you see a problem that criminals can openly stand out in public and absolutely nothing happens to them? And to add insult to injury, people such as yourself build so-called "day labor sites/shelters for them to do it at.

illegal alien equals criminal

honica jewinski said...

Tabasco, please ask your wife if you can have your testicles back. If she refuses, please man up and TAKE them back, she keeps them in her purse fyi.

When we white Europeans carved this Nation out of the wilderness, the natives were not working "jobs" as we know them. If we white Europeans had never built this nation, they would likely be doing the same thing, and surely would not be working within the infasructure that we created.

marinite said...

It is not racist to call Mexicans "Mexicans". Just like calling Russians "Russians". Get over it, and get over your PC-self on this one.

Exactly.

And a great summary of the illegal immigration situation and how it is and will affect RE. I couldn't agree more.

Anonymous said...

Anon says: "DO NOT EQUATE MEXICANS with ILLEGALS!"


Hello? If you are a legal citizen then you are American, not Mexican.

But the real story is Asians and casinos. Whats up with that? Vegas and now CA Indian casinos, ALL the dealers are Asian. Nothing against Asians but you can't help but see it, ALL the dealers are Asians, new Asians who don't speak much English. I don't play anymore because I lose EVERYTIME with an Asian dealer. I can't explain it, but I bet the casinos know Asian dealers pull in more money. Why else hire ALL Asians?

honica jewinski said...

Jews own all casino's in oy vey-gas, Asians are cheap, jews will do anything 'good for jews' whether it's bad for America or not.

tabasco jenkins said...

patch,

Is there a law against a person standing in public?

(I'll answer that for you since you are obviously not very bright.)

Not unless there is a warrant for that person's arrest.

Now, I suppose we could pass a law that allows the police in this country to arrest anyone standing in public based on suspicion of them not being a citizen, then what criteria is used to justify that suspicion? Ethnicity? Skin color? Yeah, that'd be a good idea. It would go over real well with the millions of US citizens who could be harassed as a result of that criteria for doing nothing more than standing in public.

I suppose you would like that, though, wouldn't you? It's amazing to me how 20 years after the height of the Soviet communist threat so many people in this country have become proponents of fascism.

hemorrhoidforhousing said...

To all hp posters, please don't feed the monkey...it only makes it screech louder and louder......

Mexicans are not the only ones coming across the border. There are also a lot of Central Americans also. The thing I find frustrating is my two older boys are going to have a tough time finding part-time work when they are in high school because those jobs are being taken by all of the immagrants. I get tired of trying to decipher the persons accent when the attempt to repeat my order at McDonalds.

Has anybody been out on a construction site lately. The general labor and other tasks are also being gobbled up too. I agree it should be crime with jail time for those employers caught hiring illegals.

tabasco jenkins said...

honica,

I'm not the one who is constantly whining about jews and mexicans like you are. If anyone is in need of a testicle reimbursement, it would be you sir.

honica jewinski said...

Rhoid, Most HP'ers are not constuction workers. Sorry about your luck by the way.

Anonymous said...

I'm missing something.

If there are about 150 million people in the labor force...
and approx. 4.5% are unemployed...

That's about....6.75 million people.

If there are 11-12 million illegals currently working...taking jobs from americans....and they all leave (or are sent home), don't we get full-employment, inflation, and a labor shortage?


In other words...hasn't the American economy found a place for them?

What am I missing?

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What youre missing is the truth. Do you really believe the BLS number of 4.5% unemployment? You can triple that percentage and still fall short of the truth. Not to mention our economy is choked full of unproductive over head jobs, like real estate, hamburger flippers, stock sales, customer service etc. The percentage of productive employment versus overhead is shrinking all the time. With the collapse of the auto sector we'll lose all of our machine tool capabilities and when that goes "goodbye" US economy.

hemorrhoidforhousing said...

That's okay I work in software development making more in a year than you probably pull down in 3.

Did my share of construction when I was young though...can build a house from scratch....all you can do is justify your pitiful existence by blaming the jews for your lack of success.

Ooops, I just fed the monkey.

Anonymous said...

The Mexican economy has been ruined by GATT and Nafta. Cheap American corn is sent down there underselling Mexican farmers who are ruined. In the meantime Uncle Sucker susbsidizes these same American farmers to the tune of 30 billion a year.

honica jewinski said...

You make $350,000 a year rhoid? Yep, you got me beat.

Anonymous said...

why are all casino dealers are asians?

i guess,because asians are generally good in math.lol!

Anonymous said...

The Mexican economy has been ruined by GATT and Nafta. Cheap American corn is sent down there underselling Mexican farmers who are ruined. In the meantime Uncle Sucker susbsidizes these same American farmers to the tune of 30 billion a year.

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The independent family farm in the US has been destroyed. When you whine about Uncle Sam subsidizing them at least make sure you get it right. The subsidies are going to Cargill, Archer Daniel, Bunge etc. All Swiss, Dutch-Anglo, international food cartels.

Anonymous said...

I agree with your rant and overall solution. The Mexicans coming across can't be blamed for trying to find a better life, but the government-industrial complex sure as hell can be blamed for giving them one!!

Repatriation is nothing compared to what is coming. There are a HUGE number of really pissed-off Americans that have been disenfranchised by the government's "arrangement" and are just itching for a little payback. This payback will be bloody and many will die.

1/3 of all prison inmates are illegal aliens (primarily Mexicans) and this fact is not lost on Joe Sixpack. Joe is pissed and Joe is heavily armed, much more than the Mexican, and there are many more American Joe's than there are illegals. There are 250 million guns in the US and Joe won't hesitate to use them once the depression is in full swing and there is chaos in the streets.

If I were a Mexican illegal in the US right now, I would be developing a good exit strategy, and get out while it is still safe to do so.

Anonymous said...

who took a strong and stearn stance lost in the nov. 7 election.

He lost not just bec of his stance on immigration

Anonymous said...

Harsh? Yes. Necessary? Yes.

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:41:35 AM


Consider Anchor Babies illegal also.

Anonymous said...

Canadian

illegal??? name one.

HAHAHAHAHAHHA

hemorrhoidforhousing said...

I guess child porn must be more profitable than I thought. Yep you got me beat

Anonymous said...

The repubs got their ass whupped because they DIDN'T take a strong stance against the illegal alien problem. If they had, they would have won in a landslide as the people would have turned out in huge numbers. As it was, it was a pathetic turnout and hardly a mandate for the wimpy dems.

hemorrhoidforhousing said...

It's not just the illegals fault. If there wasn't a market for them, they wouldn't have a reason to come over.

It should be a criminal offense with mandatory jail time to be caught hiring illegals. If the people who ran the companies who hired the illegals had to spend some time wearing jumpsuits and being scared in the shower they might not be so ready to hire them.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Mexicans are doing more then labor jobs. They now owns business of all types. Its not just Mexican invasion the influx of asians(korean), arabs, indians come to Cali and see all the indians,asian working in the tech areas lowering wages and willing to live in shitboxes. its all over for this country, no it time to just get yours.

Wednesday, November 22, 2006 3:48:55 PM

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ya, but atleast they are legal.

Anonymous said...

It should be a criminal offense with mandatory jail time to be caught hiring illegals. If the people who ran the companies who hired the illegals had to spend some time wearing jumpsuits and being scared in the shower they might not be so ready to hire them.
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What should be treated as a crime is the destruction of the economy of Mexico. Now if it were not for that you wouldnt have an exodus of people coming into this country, moron.
And NAFTA and GATT were agreements by and for international bankers who devised as way to override sovereign nations i.e Mexico, USA etc.

Anonymous said...

I don't see too many welfare folk working the fields and if we suggest workfare instead of welfare we are accused of slavery. Work is slavery when you don't work for yourself or reap the rewards of your labor.


YAAAAAA, their great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandmammy had to do shit, and they aint, muthafvcka!

Corvinus said...

I would wager many of these same complainers (judging by the Michael Savage model of white male nativist whiners) would like to see affirmative action eliminated and for hiring to be based purely on market forces, even though the other side of their mouth turns around and asks the government to help them fight market forces by combatting competition from immigrant labor. What a bunch of hypocrites. The market is either all powerful and good, or it isn't and requires government intervention. It is not all powerful and good only when it helps you and you only.

Tabasco Sauce:
Perhaps you don't quite understand that there's market forces, but some things are more important than market forces. Like a typical economist, you don't appear to see the world as separate countries, races, and cultures but as a single unified whole in which some parts happen to be richer than others. It doesn't work that way. Globalization is Bad, with a capital B.

Why not make our own stuff, ban outsourcing of any jobs to foreign countries, ban hiring of illegal aliens, cut off this ridiculous obsession with free trade, and import only things that we are unable to make ourselves? And yes, we should be able to easily make those shoes, toys, and electronic gadgets that we import from China and Japan! If we started doing that ourselves, we could even export things to pay for our oil bill, while finding alternate sources of fuel (switchgrass ethanol for cars, for example).

Isolationism (even wacky Lil' Kim's Juche) is looking better and better.

Anonymous said...

$2000.00 Bounty paid on all

Mexican scalps turned in to any law enforcement agency

borkafatty said...

Bursting Bubble will take with it 1.5 Million Jobs:

What abandoned houses look like today, as the bubble collapses; EIR show twice as many jobs will disappear as in the 1990-91 recession

http://tinyurl.com/y3u68o

tabasco jenkins said...

corvinus,

I'm not necessarily saying a little bit of isolationsim isn't bad. You don't see me defending NAFTA, do you? However, complete isolationism will get you nowhere fast. See what happened to China from 1500 - 1900. They lost technological superiority (which they previously held over the rest of the world) to Europe and ended up having all of their major coastal cities attacked and conquered by European powers (Shanghai - Germany, Hong Kong - Britan, Macau - Portugal, etc).

National interests should not be given up on in the name of free trade, but only looking inward can also have diastrous effects. It's a delicate balance.

Anonymous said...

I'm not necessarily saying a little bit of isolationsim isn't bad. You don't see me defending NAFTA, do you? However, complete isolationism will get you nowhere fast. See what happened to China from 1500 - 1900. They lost technological superiority (which they previously held over the rest of the world) to Europe and ended up having all of their major coastal cities attacked and conquered by European powers (Shanghai - Germany, Hong Kong - Britan, Macau - Portugal,
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Hey imbecile, the issue is sovereignty not isolationism. And the period in question (1500-1900) which you misuse to make a fraudulent argument was actually the period when Europe came out of the Dark Ages due to the Council of Florence initiated Renaissance.

It was only after that break through in science and statescraft did the world see an explosion in science, arts,living standard, population growth etc. And it was this which lead to the discovery of the North Americas.

And China was conquered by the privatised armies of the British East India Company called the British Opium Wars. All done in the name of FREE TRADE by the way.

Knock off the sophistry. The only way human kind has developed is through the concept of the sovereign nation state. All "free trade" has done through out history is it has ushered in one dark age and collapse after the other.

Patch Tuesday said...

Tabasco says: I suppose you would like that, though, wouldn't you? It's amazing to me how 20 years after the height of the Soviet communist threat so many people in this country have become proponents of fascism.

Maybe your problem is you're another one of those clowns that never wore a military uniform and actually defended this country...

Tell us Tabasco, why is that you defend illegal immigration?

What's your gain or loss?

Gringo said...

On Thanksgiving I always think of how the native Americans fed the Pilgrims, taught them how to live off native foods here and then about how we subsequently exterminated most of them and stole their land. By "We" I mean the Europeans who were able to come here and take North America by force due to superior weaponry and biological warfare (think blankets infected with Smallpox). I also think of the Indians of South and Latin America who were also dispossessed of their land by the Spanish Conquerors who had cannons, horses, steel swords and guns against the Indians' clubs and spears. With respect to the IMMIGRATION ISSUE, I feel that people with native American blood, whether Aztec blood or Apache, have a right to travel and be anywhere in the Americas, since they had this continent stolen from them. Since many of our ancestors murdered most of the North American Indians, wouldn't it be ethical to allow the surviving Mexican and Latin American Indians to come here? If you look at people crossing the border, you can easily see that they are not of European ancestry. For that matter, why not unite Mexico and the United States (and legalize all illegal drugs, thus ending cross-border drug trade)? If you go back to the Mexican-American War, the states of California, Utah, Nevada,Colorado, Arizona and New Mexico, and Texas were forcibly grabbed by the United States from Mexico and the land rights of people who owned land there cancelled. The treaty of Guadalupe Hildalgo was signed while we occupied Mexico city and was not a deal made among equals. The war itself was totally provoked by Americans living in Texas and the Polk administration was only too ready to follow up with invasion of Mexico and ridiculous demands for all those states as reparations. Mexican immigrants here offer us a window on how to survive in a world of surplus labor. Most citizens don't have the slightest idea how hard illegals work, how simply they live, and in many cases what terrifically affectionate and honest people they are. Many (not all) of them would be a tremendous addition to the U.S. ~Gringo

tabasco jenkins said...

last anonymous,

You've obviously missed the point. Why is it that the European countries ended up sailing ships half way around the world to engage in free trade with China, but China (who was technologically superior to the Europeans up to around the 16th century) didn't end up sending ships half way across the world to engage in free trade with Europe, ending up with the Chinese losing control of much of their country in the 19th century?

Because the unified and extremely sovereign at the time Chinese government/dynasties started becoming increasingly isolationist, in stark contrast from the prior 2000 years of their history when the Chinese conquered much of SE Asia and Chinese explorers and traders travelled to far flung islands in the Pacific and all the way to Madagascar and Easern Africa, you dolt.

Any more salient non-points you want to make?

Anonymous said...

Amazing that you can see the real problem of the Mexican invasion and still support the Democrats.

The ignorant Republicans have dropped the ball in instituting any meaningful reforms but the Democrats thrive on the flood of immigration. Any one with their hand out is a friend of the Democrats.

I'm disgusted with both parties, but the Republicans are the lesser of two evils.

honica jewinski said...

Gringo, jewish carpetbaggers were the ones with the smallpox blankets. Only a jew could be this cruel.

tabasco jenkins said...

patch,

I have nothing to gain, either way. I just don't like to see people denigrating immigrants for no other reason then their imagined ethnic superiority. If you have a problem with illegal immigration, take it up with the employers who are drawing them here, and never, ever complain about government involvement in labor markets again.

honica jewinski said...

Anon 7:32, the neo-cohens and the demojews both serve the same jewish masters. Both are going to let the invasion continue no matter what they say.

tabasco jenkins said...

patch,

To clarify, I also don't like blatant hypcrisy as exhibited by Ex-Patriot Keith who states that he "doesn't blame the Mexican people" then espouses that he would "announce loudly that we're going to uphold the laws of the country and that anyone in the US illegally will be rooted out and sent home".

Besides the fact that Keith complains about mexican immigrants "stealing" jobs while he himself has immmigrated to another country in order to "steal" a job from somebody else, it is also quite hypocritical to state you don't blame somebody for something but then call for this same person to be punished for it.

Therefore, when faced with this rank stupidity, I feel inclined to insert my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.

hemorrhoidforhousing said...

Well said Gringo, but history is full of the displacement of indigineous peoples as other more advanced peoples expand. It is the nature of the strong over taking the weak.

As the Europeans spread over the Americas the native Americans were displaced, that is true but we did no do it, the peoples before us did. I am not responsible for it but have learned from it. One of the most influencial books I ever read was about Chief Joseph of the Nez Pierce of the Pacific Northwest and how he was the leader of a tribe who fought one of the last great Indian Wars.

My stepfather trained Appolossa race horses for years and I have always admired them because they run so true to forum. The US Calvary attempted to wipe them out because they were a much better horse than theirs and it was one of the reasons why the Nez Pierce were able to out run them for so long.

Don't mind the monkey screeching.....it loves the attention. Just don't feed it.

Patch Tuesday said...

Tabasco said: "Besides the fact that Keith complains about mexican immigrants "stealing" jobs while he himself has immmigrated to another country in order to "steal" a job from somebody else, it is also quite hypocritical to state you don't blame somebody for something but then call for this same person to be punished for it."

Are you saying that Keith is illegally in the UK Tabasco?

honica jewinski said...

Tabasco has just been feminized to the point of castration, similar to rhoid up there. What they don't realize is that Keith is a white European, therefore welcome in white Europe, just as white Europeans are welcome here in America. Third world savages are the ones we have a problem with.

Anonymous said...

You've obviously missed the point. Why is it that the European countries ended up sailing ships half way around the world to engage in free trade with China, but China (who was technologically superior to the Europeans up to around the 16th century) didn't end up sending ships half way across the world to engage in free trade with Europe, ending up with the Chinese losing control of much of their country in the 19th century?
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You obviously missed the point. It was the Dutch and British East India Companies doing the trade with China and India. But the point to make is isolationism is irrelevant to this discussion. The only issue is whether the nations of this world our sovereign or whether private bankers actually sit atop nations dictating the terms.

Youre obviously adept in the art of masturbation.

tabasco jenkins said...

Patch,

I'm saying nothing of the kind. It is not currently illegal for an undocumented immigrant in the US to be employed, so they are no more "stealing" a job than Keith is.

keith said...

keith has a UK work permit, is legal, went through "the process" and does something that nobody in the UK can do. The UK welcomed me because I am working to stimulate their economy, create jobs and cause positive change.

in other words, the perfect immigrant

what pisses me off is there are millions of people around the world that we'd love to have in the US - the best and the brightest. But we get stuck with the dregs who just bust into the country illegally.

that's the problem.

nice to see tabasco talking about things he has no idea about.

Anonymous said...

A galling aspect of the unbridled Mexican/Central American illegal invasion and their PC wimp enablers, is that low-skilled Americans are increasingly being required to have Spanish fluency for entry-level jobs.

Cultural effects of illegal hispanic immigration are most noticeable, but there are many other immigrant groups degrading the quality of American life. The entire immigration system needs revamping, though it's probably too late. Unlike Europe, we at least still have plenty of open country and can flee the mess, to a degree.

Anonymous said...

Tabasco says: I suppose you would like that, though, wouldn't you? It's amazing to me how 20 years after the height of the Soviet communist threat so many people in this country have become proponents of fascism.
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American proponents of fascism are actually the Baby Boomers. Especially the upper 20% income brackets from suburbia. After 1968-1972 period they began to shed their "counter culture" outfits in favor of Wall Street suits and ties and went off to destroy the industrial capabilites of this nation.

Now that their post industrial utopia is collapsing they cannot think of anything else than to shift the planet to fascist regimes which will squeeze whole populations for that last margin of income.

Rid the world of baby boomerism and you rid the world of fascism.

tabasco jenkins said...

last anon,

You certainly are thick. Why was it Dutch and British and German and Portuguese companies (heavily financed by the governments of those countries) who were sailing ships to China, and not vice versa? The Chinese after all were sending trading ships to the South Pacific and East Africa long before any Western European countries were sailing the seas. Isolationism by the heavily centralized Chinese government had a major effect on inhibiting Chinese exploration and trade. Deny it all you want, you are just limiting your understanding of things.

honica jewinski said...

Can we get a count of people here who support the slaughter of Americans by the criminal mestizo wetbacks I spoke of above?

tabasco jenkins said...

See my comment directly above yours Keith, then stop accusing illegal immigrants of "stealing" jobs. Or else, admit that you've "stolen" a job. One or the other.

honica jewinski said...

Tabasco? Do you support the slaughter?

Patch Tuesday said...

Tabasco says: "I'm saying nothing of the kind. It is not currently illegal for an undocumented immigrant in the US to be employed, so they are no more "stealing" a job than Keith is."

Actually it is illegal Tabasco, and I'll cite this article to prove it:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15765337

"This walkout — which apparently was instigated by the United Food and Commercial Workers Union — is totally unjustified," Pittman said. "If Smithfield were to do what the union is calling for, we would be breaking federal law by knowingly employing undocumented workers. The union should stop trying to pressure Smithfield to break the law."

tabasco jenkins said...

patch,

That law is against "hiring". An undocumented worker does not hire him or herself. They have done nothing illegal with regards to their employment. It is the employer who has.

honica jewinski said...

Ahh, we're mighty quiet now are'nt we my nutless friends.

Patch Tuesday said...

Ok Tabasco, being that you want to split hairs. Being employed means you provide a SSN and pay taxes etc.

How do you do that when don't exist in this country?

Anonymous said...

Essentially what you proposing is that if we abandon FREE TRADE in favor of what you call isolationsim that we will end up a weaker of non existant nation. Your use of China is a poor example. China was not destroyed by isolationism but by Taoism which replaced the teaching of Confuscious who had discovered certain universal principles as the Europeans would do during the Council of Florence period. It is those principles which are then embedded into policy which decide the fate of nations and peoples. Not whether we get together and "trade things".

The US has become a degenerate cutlure and it's this current culture which is sure to destroy it. The nation state is an institution created to reflect the sovereign nature of man in the image of God.

What youre isolationist rant has to do with anything (except you must believe that trading is some magical end all solution?)is beyond me.

Again the only question today that means anything is whether there shall be sovereign nations or whther the private bankers and financiers will rule over nations and their people.

And please get a tissue and clean up after yourself.

tabasco jenkins said...

Patch,

It may seem like splitting hairs, but its a very important distinction. It involves blaming the employers vs blaming the immigrants.

As far as paying taxes, yes they should be. Their employment is not the problem, though, it's their failure to pay taxes. Their being employed is still perfectly legal.

As far as going after them for not paying their taxes, there's a process in place for that, which would be for the IRS to go after them for tax evasion, just like anybody who does not report income. However, in order for the IRS to do that, they need to see proof of income, which would be hard to get if the employer is unwilling to document the income.

Once again, we're back to the employer.

Patch Tuesday said...

You brought up an interesting buzz word Tabasco, that being the Cold War. Has anyone else spent in time in Germany? I was there during some of the Cold War years and the Germans used to hate the Turks for frequently being illegal aliens, that were putting a horrendous drain on their social service programs. Our benefits here are nothing compared to what the Germans were giving their citizens.

tabasco jenkins said...

Anon Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:33:36 PM

You are offically a verifiable nutball if you believe what you just wrote. This is the last I will feed you. Please go back to giving money to Oral Roberts for his 900 ft jesus.

Anonymous said...

You are offically a verifiable nutball if you believe what you just wrote. This is the last I will feed you. Please go back to giving money to Oral Roberts for his 900 ft jesus.
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So this is not your hypothesis that without free trade will die from isolation? Isnt that the undelying axiom behind your opinion?

And you just confirmed your "oral" fixation. You must be British, eh?

honica jewinski said...

I can't believe you faggots are still spewing this monkey spank about free trade and tax evasion when these criminal mestizo wetbacks are slaughtering more Americans each year than were killed on 9/11. I hope they get a member of your family before mine.

keith said...

Tobasco - when you have extremely specialized skills and can do something NOBODY ELSE CAN DO, and go to a country to help them succeed and create jobs, then you're not stealing a job. Comprende?

When you break into the US, get a job as a roofer or plumber and work for 1/4 of what the now-unemployed US citizen roofer or plumber used to make, that's called stealing a job.

tabasco jenkins said...

Keith,

Wow, quite the big head you have. You do a job nobody else in the world can do? Do you have some kind of super power? Are you the Green Lantern?

Labor is a marketed commodity, just like anything else. Choosing to work a job for less money than would be expected by your competition is not stealing, it is meeting demand at a lower price. And there is no law against accepting a job, so there is nothing illegal in undocumented immigrants doing so, therefore you implying that it is "stealing" is factually incorrect and really just an extension of your racist bias.

If somebody could do exactly what you could do for less cost, your employer would not hesitate in taking that option. There are, of course, inherant replacement costs. But trust me, you're not irreplaceable. The world's cemetaries are chock full of irreplaceable fellas, Keith.

hemorrhoidforhousing said...

No-one is ir-replacable...some are just a little harder to replace than others.

When I was pounding nails in my youth there was a crew of mexicans who did the concrete work on a lot of jobs I worked on. I acknowledge they were hard working men and did good work. I have no problem with mexicans...I grew up in the southwest. I have problems with illegals who act as if they are somehow entitled to benefits they don't deserve..

The guys on the concrete crew would always stop to eat these burritos the brought with them and every once in awhile they would have one overloaded with chili's to give to a gringo to watch him eat it and freak. They gave me one of them once thinking I would go stupid when I bit into it but my dad's second wife used to put green chili in everthing so it wasn't something that bothered me. They stood there and waited but I never blinked. I was crying inside and shit fire the next day but I never let them see me sweat.

The wierd thing was my dad's second wife was a German immigrant who married a GI to get into the US. But man she loved her green chili.

Shakster said...

Absolutely Kieth- Pardon Me for saying,but you don't have to be Mexican to "steal" a job,and you don't have to be A US Citizen "subject",to get an education,and a specialty.

keith said...

tabasco - nobody can do what I do. Similar? Yes. Exactly? No.

Not a big head at all - I'm just hyper-specialized and nobody else does what I do or has accumulated the combination of experience and information that I have been lucky enough to accumulate.

Some skills are not (yet) commoditized. If you read Friedman, that's one thing you'll learn - do something, develop some skill, talent or information, that cannot be done or duplicated by someone for 1/10 of your cost in China or India.

The only way to survive in a global economy is to be specialized, be unique and do something that is defensible, in demand and non-duplicatable.

If you can't understand this concept, I can't help you. But I'd guess you have a job that will be outsourced soon or replaced by illegals, so good luck out there.

tabasco jenkins said...

keith,

ha, ha, ha!

Every software programmer in the Silicon valley thought the same thing as you not 5 years ago. Guess what, other people in countries like India learned how to do the same thing for cheaper pretty damn quickly. Nobody else knows how to do what you do? How did you learn, then? I take it back, you're not the Green Lantern, you're Batman, huh? Were you trained in a secret mountain lair in Tibet?

FYI, I presently work in a position where my locality is a necessity, so at present there is no chance of my job being outsourced. But the world is a fast moving place, so I am nowhere as naive as you are and consequently do not think that I am by any means irreplaceable.

foxwoodlief said...

Honica must be having a bad day with the wife with all his rantings about other races. I think you mentioned once you had a jewish girlfriend who dumped you and now you rag on jews so maybe a mexican took your job cutting lawns so you rag on mexicans? Or maybe you saw a mexican in the shower and his testes were larger than yours?

America, England, Spain, all have growing economies due to immigrants, legal and illegal. Many countries have declining populations and need immigrants of any kind. Evolution is full of change, adaptation, migration.

Often when I think of New England I think, What country are they from? They seem so foreign to me out there in their anglo-villages and the way they treat outsiders as invaders (guess it is that subconcious link of what they did). Growing up in the western USA I find we are different, more open, more accepting, and really states filled with immigrants. Don't you think someone moving to California from NY isn't an immigrant? People migrate. Hispanic culture is as much a part of my American heritage as any other culture. I eat tacos, enchiladas, guacomole, we use spanish words daily in our lives, Sierra Nevada, California, etc, just as we adapt to other cultures, French, Irish, Swedish, Italian, Chinese, Japanese, etc. Think how boring life would be without these cultural imports.

Polarization occurs when there are two ethnic groups pitted against each other, white vs black, hispanic vs white, black vs hispanic. When no one group is dominate then a vibrant interaction occurs, like in large portions of NY city or California or other places that are diverse.

Diversity is creative, enriching. Adapt.

Anonymous said...

hey Gringos, all I'm reading here is some pathetic whining by a bunch of whie maricones with small huevos.
There's nothing you can do about Mexican immigration so deal with it.
Maybe your women will find some real hombres while you gabachos are sitting
pounding keyboards with ideas that have no impact and nobody cares about. If you want to do something of value,join the military and go fight in Iraq to help your poor country that's getting its ass kicked by a bunch of third-world
campesinos.

keith said...

software programmers are a dime a dozen

however, how many sean hannity's are there? how many kobe bryant's? how many karl rove's? how many madonna's?

get it? sometimes, there's only one

look up "unique" in the dictionary. then try to be it.

tabasco jenkins said...

Keith,

Sean Hannity, Kobe Bryant, Karl Rove, Madonna, can all be replaced.

Ever heard of Keith Olbermann, Lebron James, Howard Dean, or Beyonce?

You could argue that honica jewinski is "unique". That has little to do with being necessary.

Besides the fact, as an objective observer, I would put you alot closer to the average construction worker than Kobe Bryant. I highly doubt if Kobe Bryant had a blog, he would be begging people to click through to his Google ads.

Get over yourself and your racial prejudices, and just admit that mexican immigrants are not "stealing" jobs, nor should they be punished for seeking employment anymore than you should. Your refusal to do so is just reinforcing the picture of yourself as an ignorant racist, and piling on top of that a picture of irrational egoism and perverse stubbornness.

If you want to talk about the immigration problem, stick to calling for accountability from employers who choose to give jobs to undocumented workers who do not pay taxes, something neither Republicans nor Democrats seem to want to do. Otherwise, you are just helping inflame the racial prejudices that exist in America now and are plenty bad enough without further inflammation. Take some responsibility.

Anonymous said...

Well Keith- Watch out for what you wish for. You just might get it. You wanted to throw the bums out at election time. Now you've got the Democrats in and their favorite word is Amnesty. After they legalize the 12 million ILLEGALS, they will be able to bring their other family members in and put them on Welfare, WIC, and health care. Good luck for the American tax payer.

hyman69 said...

honica jewinski, is the smartest,wittyest, and most intelligent contributor on this whole blog. the rest of you should take note of this and learn something. HAIL HONICA

hyman69 said...

was that tabasco jenkins sucking on borats ass in that recently released film.jenkins what a dick you are. here is the real deal,INFLATON, INFLATION, INFLATION. thats it. say no more,the downfall of the u.s.a pay not keeping up with prices of goods.FOOD, CLOTHING, ect.

Shakster said...

Mexican heritage of the southwestern "US" is here to stay ,was here in the beginning,and is strong.It is a waste to refute these points.Sorry Honica.Freedom lovers around the West will have to do their best to educate Mexicans ,and others away from the communist/socialist mindset of "Big Brother".The last goddamned thing we should do is act like that little craphole ,Isreal, and start some BS ethnic cleansing process.

tabasco jenkins said...

hyman,

Coming from somebody who calls himself hyman, I will take being called a dick as a compliment. And I agree with ya, bud. Inflation indeed is going to be what ends up causing the US to lose its economic dominance in the end. It may take a couple decades more, but it will happen. It's pretty hard to remain competitive on the world market when you are constantly inflating your costs of production. Inflation is like a siren song to aristocrats, of which are currently running this country. They just can't resist the temptation of manufactured asset appreciation.

Anonymous said...

KEITH -

I know you must raise unicorns by breast-feeding them until their horn turn to pure gold because that would actually be something NO ONE else can do except you, otherwise ALL jobs can be done by more than one person on the planet - stop having such a big head.

If your job situations truly is indeed as "unique" as you claim then you are far from having the best perspective to comment on the situation of the "common" laborer - legal or illegal.

Anonymous said...

Love how these so called capitalists call any job being done by some fruitpicker cause there is no one else that will can honestly call it a free market.
Lets face it when Jose gets his arm hurt and goes to the ER it is subsidized by the taxpayer and so is Joses kids in ESL .
Cmon freemarket shills whether it is dumping of goods or labor we know the affect its econ 101 and the population is very aware and they are on to you.
may the guilattenes fall as they may.
Trust me it will happen.
You can run but you cant hide.

Anonymous said...

Coming from somebody who calls himself hyman, I will take being called a dick as a compliment. And I agree with ya, bud. Inflation indeed is going to be what ends up causing the US to lose its economic dominance in the end. It may take a couple decades more, but it will happen. It's pretty hard to remain competitive on the world market when you are constantly inflating your costs of production. Inflation is like a siren song to aristocrats, of which are currently running this country. They just can't resist the temptation of manufactured asset appreciation.
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What is it that we still produce? Casino's, pornography, Hollywood movies?
And you gotta be a baby boomer because you predict trouble for the USA in the coming two decades. Meaning of course nothing bad can happen while your alive.

Corvinus said...

Tabasco Sauce:

So your attitude is, punish the employers but let the illegal aliens stay in the country where the American taxpayer will continue to be required to subsidize their free medical care and free education?

Millions of Americans can't afford to go to the doctor anymore because of the illegals driving up health insurance costs through the roof. The illegals are an albatross around Americans' necks. We should strip the illegals' children of their citizenship, and force them all to move to Mexico so their families can be reunited, strip the employers of their citizenship and deport them to Mexico too (since they hate white Americans and love Mexicans so much, they can just as well go live there!) and yes, build a Berlin Wall.

Personally, I don't see why isolating yourself economically and literally from dirt-poor countries is a bad thing.

Anonymous said...

Wow, what an assh0l3 Keith. Your grandparents were the last ones in the country, so now it's closed? The country is not done growing, bud. We run a deficit of 3% of our GDP each year. We're mortgaging the future and we need to fill those shoes - with more people. We're at 300M. China and India are each nearing 1.3B.

Your misdirected anger is really for Congress. Modern day "Ellis Island" facilities in CA, AZ, NM and TX would let us: 1) charge immigration tax (it was $8 in 1917); 2) reject criminals, the diseased; 3) give them social security numbers and applications for citizenship and a driver's license.

Arguably, putting downward pressure on unskilled labor with immigrants is better than letting those jobs go to other countries.

Want to make GM and Ford profitable? Lay off every union auto worker and let Mexicans, Central Americans, and South Americans do the work in our US plants. They couldn't possibly make worse cars than what rolls out of there now. Same could be said for airline mechanics, airline flight crews and baggage handlers.

Anonymous said...

The legal immigrant community provides santuary for their immediate family and neighbors, and the cycle repeats and repeats until majority demographic rejects immigration enforcement (for their own kind at least). So as these people enter law enforcement and government, it transforms the country and undermines democracy.

Immigration laws (i.e. deciding who comes in and under which circumstances) are set by our government which is installed by the legal citizens at the time of the law's passage. As LEGAL immigrants assimilate into the US, they can modify those laws as they see fit.

It goes against democracy to have a swarm of people enter the country illegally and therefore influence the government (just think of all those brazen public protests in the streets, for instance).

Although illegals can't vote directly, they may have relatives who do. Even non-Mexican politicians feel the need to pander to voters who are increasingly sympathetic to illegals.

So you wind up with a nation of selective enforcement. By whatever rationalization is applied, the mexicans "look after their own" to ensure an open border with Mexico, whereas other immigrants are still expected to jump through the normal hoops.

If can't see how anyone wouldn't see this as a recipe for disaster.