David Lereah, Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, George Bush - how many more do you need?
Americans were deceived these past few years, by people pretending "be on their side", pretending to channel god, pretending to walk in christ's footsteps
And they were liars, they were gay sex addicts, they were drug addicts, they were corrupt, they were evil.
Americans are trusting people, who want heroes to look up to.
So were the germans in the 1930's.
Just look at this guy HP'ers. Good god, it's like a bad SNL skit. Please watch the video.
Are people really this gullible? Are they really this stupid? Are they really this desperate to find meaning in their credit-fueled lives? It's got to stop. Or is America now one big cult, lining up at the kool-aid line?
The world is laughing at America, and Americans today. And the world is scared of America today.
And rightly so.
November 03, 2006
Americans are putting their trust with people they should be running from vs. embracing - Here's meth and gay sex addict Ted Haggard
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yup, they are that gullible. remember that jim jones character (? name correct) that had all those poor slobs drink poisoned Kool-Aid. that's why it's the responsibity of the skeptic to call these idiots out as best you can when you spot them.
The more anti-gay someone is... THE MORE GAY THEY ARE!
I believe that one day this will be well known, and understood.
Homophobia is latent homosexuality.
Now check this out...
Updates: Haggard Says He Bought Meth But Didn't Use It
ChristianityToday.com - 47 minutes ago
Ted Haggard this morning admitted to calling Mike Jones, buying methamphetamine from him, and hiring him for a massage, but continued to deny Jones's claims that he used the drugs or that he paid Jones for sex.
Hey, give Haggard some credit. At least, he does his stuff with men, not pre-pubescent little boys.
That was the scariest video I've ever seen. Evangelicals and Bush-believers are cult members.
what really bothers me is that some people make their judgements about the worth of faith and Christianity based in part upon the actions of folks like this guy up at the top. when people at these levels slip (and they always do) some folks will question the worth of the whole endeavor - like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. that's the real crime that they commit (IMHO). why can't these guys get caught like just smoking some weed with their old lady, or cheating uncle sam out of a couple of hundred bucks in taxes, etc? why does it always have to be that they are caught doing the most perverse things with goats and meth? please don't judge a whole religion on just the actions of some very failed men. its value is what it is worth to you personally.
I myself attend an evangelical church and the short answer is 'yes'.
I've been trying to figure out why, and have come to the conclusion that many of these people are living in their own idealized world where everything is clearly good or evil, either black or white. If you try to engage them in a meaningful discussion about, say, the morality of many people surrounding the president (oh, pick one, like Karl Rove), and how they can support people like this, they get uncomfortable and will blame the liberal media for inaccurate reporting about those people (this is all completely hypothetical, of course).
Is there hypocrisy in the church? You bet. And a lot of the people within the church don't want to believe or accept that. Sad but true.
meanwhile christ himself would be so grossed out, so disappointed, so depressed at what people have done in his beautiful name
Praise the Lord, Pass the Meth and make me "Born Again" !
This is ironic. This is exactly the kind of thing they used to impeach President Clinton "I did not have sex with that woman", it's the kind of emotional issue they used to distort the real issues of the 2004 Presidential elections (Nothing was said about the collapsing US economy and financial system), by rousing the emotions of their fundie base around gay marriage.
Bill Clinton for one has to be sitting somewhere with that big Arkansas shit eating grin of his just watching devine justice unfold before his very eyes.
One guy at the top is immoral and a hypocryte and all the seculars rejoice. Meanwhile there are hundreds of people in the crowd who do wonderful things. Working with the poor, the elderly, drug addicts, people who are neglected by society. I know - I'm on the board for many of these organizations. At least 80% of them are religious. And for every secular person out their donating time and money to these causes there are TEN religious person doing the same. Do they want to convert people to Christ - you bet! Do I care. Not if they're making the world a better place. All you secular people out there who find comfort in episodes like these and latch on to it as a reason to continue in a self-absorbed, lazy, narcisistic, hedonist lifestyle good for you. If comments on this post were limited to those who had given their time and money freely to those in need (not just an office sponsered trip to the food bank at Thaksgiving) I doubt there would be any posts from the secularists.
religious people need to think long and hard about the candidates and party they support
I would suggest the party of the rich, the party of big business, the party of war, the party of hatred and discrimination, the party of death, and the party of screw the future generations, is not the party religious people should be supporting
but then again, the other party probably grosses 'em out too.
so what to do?
"Hypocrites in Denial"
We should start printing that on our money.
"I would suggest the party of the rich, the party of big business, the party of war, the party of hatred and discrimination, the party of death, and the party of screw the future generations, is not the party religious people should be supporting"
And the alternative is the party of indolence, appeasement, PC, abortion on demand, and screw the future generations?
Yeah, that's one hell of a selection we have. People of faith don't need guys like Haggard anymore than they need a Jesse Jackson. The Birkenstock crown needs to quit equating religious belief with hypocrites like those two guys.
people of faith need to remain independent. that's my take.
this brain dead, drink the kool-aid rush to the party of karl rove is a joke. The GOP used them, pure and simple, to win elections. They got poor people to vote against their own self interests, for the sake of the rich and big business.
Perhaps marx was right
So wait... have we figured out then if god still hates fags?
I'm having a hard time keeping up...
Haggard case fuels debate over hypocrisy
DAVID CRARY
Associated Press
With the Mark Foley scandal still troubling Republicans, one of the nation's top evangelical leaders is now accused of paying for gay sex. Heading into Tuesday's election, when voters in eight states will decide on gay marriage bans, liberals and some conservatives are saying the party that prides itself on family values has a hypocrisy problem
All of you are assuming that this guy actually believed the things he said. Judging by his actions though I think he is a power drunk con artist. Deep down inside he knows he should be living in NYC wearing flamboyant clothes eating sushi served on the chest of naked 18 year old boy. Instead he decided to make millions in book deals and speaking engagements. You guys say he's a hypocrite I say he's a con man.
I guess only he and God know what the truth is.
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Friday, November 03, 2006 11:26:56 PM
You'd have us listen to one of the many British slime balls who try and sell the idea that "man" is just another "animal"? The British always try and control both sides of any argument or issue.Thats how they behave in war too. On one side they promote Hitler and then they join sides with FDR to defeat Hitler and the Nazi's. Theyre Venetian agents in reality.
In this case you have two fakers each arguing a fraudulent idea.
Keith,
I thought you had SOME education.
Hate him because he's a destructive hypocritical conservative a hole.
Pity him b/c he's on meth.
Don't feel anything thing one way or the other because he's gay.
The issues are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Try to educate yourself!
I call them Redneck Religous Retards
I'd love to go back to church. I was raised in it but I won't be going back any time soon. That video makes me ill. Someday maybe we can get back to a country that isn't so divided. I'd like to pick and choose from each party and actually see our country moderate to the middle. Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen any time soon. I've either got to choose the conservative party that, frankly, scares the hell out of me, or the liberal party that, while it may endorse some values I don't agree with, sure seems a hell of a lot less crazy!
People of "Faith" are by definition lazy uneducated idiots.
Faith = Blind belief without evidence.
Like the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, Racists, War Mongers, Cowards, Communists, ...
People are sucked into "Faith" because that are lazy and its easy to blindly follow then to make an effort at seek the truth.
Hitler used "Faith" to start WWII and gas millions of Jews.
Blind "Faith" combined with fear has been used throughout to rally ignorant people to fight EVERY MAJOR WAR IN THE HISTORY OF HUMAN KIND.
Bush used Blind Faith & Fear to rally ingnorant Americans into an illegal war for oil that has nothing to do with terrorists or threats to the US.
After laughing at the oh-so-delicious-irony of closeted-tweaker-male-prostitute-patron Ted Haggad.
I’ve always been curious why people in Colorado(and nationally for that matter) are so fanatical over suburban evangelical churches .
In the video, Richard Dawkins makes the statement that these mega churches “are not just churches, but ready made social networks for people to exchange information and tips from marriage and dating to dog walking.”
I grew up in an Irish catholic row house neighborhood in South Boston. We went to church on Christmas, Easter and the occasional wedding and funeral. We spent our evenings sitting on the front stoop talking with neighbors. We never lacked for company or advice for that matter.
Might I make this hypothesis: As people have made the migration from urban center to suburban wastelands they have lost personal meaning and social belonging? As Dawkins states in the video clip above, these churches are instant social networks and replacing the social void of the ‘burbs
Furthermore the same affluenza that has plagued the Mc Mansion crowd and builders has crept into the church as well. Just take a look at some of these churches, they obscene and garish.
http://www.newlifechurch.org/
http://www.fbchammond.com/index.php
http://www.hillsong.com/
This next church link is great. Its eerily similar to http://www.elevationchandler.com/
http://www.chc.org.sg/
Beware of his noodly appendage.
I Think, Therefore I am.
I am an Evangelical, Therfore I am an idiot within a flock of sheep following in Faith to where my gay, drug addicted, evil, pedophile leaders take me.
Interesting to me that if you actually read The Bible, Christian values are very much aligned with liberals, non-violence, seeking of knowledge (science), anti-war in all regards, hippies, new age, ...
yet in America Christians have somehow been re-defined from The Bible into greedy, war mongering, scared, cult.
I just saw an interview with Haggard on TV. I liked the story about the massage. How else could his paid lover know what his wanker looked like!
I really feel sorry for his 5 kids. How much would any of you want to bet on whether his wife comes out with a tell all book in a few years.
What a bunch of Bull!
Keith, et all:
Let me get this straight, you post this video about a messed up pastor debating a "scientists" about evolution then proceed to make fun of Christians because they question a fallable theory and somehow tie it into the GOP.
There are many non-Christians who do not believe in evolution. I would dare say you adhere to blind faith too, yours just happens to be an aspiring theory with huge gaps and that requires leaps of speculation to make full sense. So are you really any different?
Ocham's razor: "all things being equal, the simplest explanation tends to be true" (paraphased)
"The more I discover about science, the more I am convinced that there is a God" (Albert Einstein) - I guess he was not a true scientist - another religious zealot, eh? LOL
Wake up all you sheep...
Annonymous said, "what really bothers me is that some people make their judgements about the worth of faith and Christianity based in part upon the actions of folks like this guy up at the top"
And how is this different from a lot of those who post here with their comments about Mexicans, Jews, or Muslims? They judge them on the action of a few, the fringe, the radicals?
Give Haggert a break. Maybe, just maybe he was doing research for Jesus? Maybe he wanted to see what gay sex was all about and the prove he wasn't gay or that you can't be converted? Maybe the experience was so painful (he probably was a bottom using all that meth) that he turned to drugs to dull the pain? Maybe he wanted to experience the evils of homosexuality first hand so he could better preach from the pulpit to warn others? Maybe he is a SAINT, misunderstood, victimized, sacrified his ministry, his family, to show the world the consequences of those who don't follow the WAY?
Doubtful, but maybe.
"David Lereah, Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, George Bush - how many more do you need?"
Yeah Keith, I would like to add, Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Gerry Studds, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi to your list. Oh yeah, they're Dems so they dont get called out here. But...you claim to be independent. Right...
Depicted in the video is the marginally educated Republican white trash scum mentioned by others in posts. Don't make excuses that they've been duped by hypocritical church leaders. They are just as hypocritical for supporting an incompetent President and are all equally guilty for the death and destruction visited upon Iraq on our soldiers and Iraqi innocents.Have no pity for this scum, because when caught in their lies, they just breezily claim they have sinned but are forgiven because the Lord says so and they are born-again and again and again and again.
The only justice for these aloof and selfish cultists is that their precious brainwashed children wind up acting in hardcore movies and get strung out on dope.
Maybe then, they'll have some real compassion for other people who are not like them , but nevertheless fellow humans...the true meaning of Christianity.
Meanwhile, screw all these extreme religious Republican white trash extremist scumbags.
"Anon said:
The only justice for these aloof and selfish cultists is that their precious brainwashed children wind up acting in hardcore movies and get strung out on dope."
Yeah, but with an emphasis on heavy rear entry action and crystal meth dependency to keep in tune with their leaders preferences.
Is it too late to play the I was drinking card and enter rehab ??
interestingly enough, Haggard initially claimed to "not know Mike" or "anything about the situation" until Mike put his evidence on the table-- so anything Haggard says is probably a fabrication.
I went to the University of Minnesota and freaked out a professor because I told him: "I'm not religous, but I don't believe in evolution" after reading an author who validated his conjectures by basing them on evolution.
I was told: "this is the U of M, we don't teach crap and that author is 'world renowned."
Haggard seemed to have read Nietchzsche since Nietchzsche talked about "scientists trying to become the new priests."
The fact is, scientists only have the scientific method which clearly isn't infallable.
why is this blog so incredibly left? Why??
why is this blog so incredibly left? Why??
Because we are not Homos here. Homos all gravitate to the right were they can worship homosexuals like Mark Foley, Faggerty and GW Bush, who also is a queer.
This blog is not really all that left. The vainglorious, condescending, smug, election-rigging right wing Republicans, who snookered these mental weakling True Believers, are self-destructing. Hell yes, it is time to shine the spotlight on them.
These McMegaChurches worship money. Guys like this mix the Bible with motivational speeches and Get Rich Quick mumbo-jumbo. The attendees are not doing good works, they are there to be entertained and pray for money. It all goes along with the easy-money attitude of house flippers. That is the connection with the housing bubble.
I'm not slamming on moderate republicans, who are defecting from Bushco by the millions.
A lot of the criticisms of liberals that consistently show up here sound like good traits to me, and are not truly about politics - more ad hominem.
Tolerating gays, or, heaven forbid, being gay is somehow bad since when? I hope you know how out of touch this makes you sound. No, I myself am not gay. Grow up.
How does the religious right reconcile being anti-choice with being pro-war? If abortion is murder, what do you call dropping bombs and shooting people dead? Are these people adopting until it hurts, or hypocritically holding onto all the American luxuries? Forcing someone into a miserable life is somehow holy?
Finally, liberals do as much or (in my experience) more volunteer work than conservatives.
All conservative "ideas" stem from the notion of preserving often obscene amounts of personal wealth, epitomized by Steve Forbes single- platform presidential bid: eliminate taxes for Steve Forbes. Non-wealthy individuals join up only because they hope to become rich by association, or are "follower" types.
Liberal ideas stem from the notion that our great country has plenty to go around, and that we should take care of THE LEAST OF THESE. That we are great enough that work, food, clothing, shelter, medical care, solid infrastructure, and education can be accessible for all.
The high-and-mighty attitude of the religious right is that they have a monopoly on God, righteousness, Christianity, the flag, the Bald Eagle, and fiscal prudence, or at least con the naive into thinking they do. There is a big difference between an openly gay politician and a closeted homophobe. Sorry, but...LOOOOOSER!
" went to the University of Minnesota and freaked out a professor because I told him: "I'm not religous, but I don't believe in evolution" after reading an author who validated his conjectures by basing them on evolution.
I was told: "this is the U of M, we don't teach crap and that author is 'world renowned."
Haggard seemed to have read Nietchzsche since Nietchzsche talked about "scientists trying to become the new priests."
The fact is, scientists only have the scientific method which clearly isn't infallable. "
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It is refreshing to see someone else who is not towing the PC line here.
I will not get into the semantics about Evolution being a religion here, but do want to make a point.
Forget about your "I was brainwashed by academia to accept Evolution as scientifice fact and I am an elite who is better than you" attitude for a second. I can tell a captivated audience not willing to think for themselves that housing market is red hot and even produce "evidence" that supports me, but it does not make it true.
Ponder the following:
At some point in his thought pattern of justifying evolution as fact, he/she will have to face the awkward truth that noble gases, heat, gravity, first cell(whatever) was "just there". It cannot be explained how it formed or why, but to make the remainder of the process fit, there had to be a beginning. Is this not faith? On top of this initial faith, one has to believe that randomness then occured on a scale that defies logical possibility for organisms to evolve as they did (this is the science, but its origins is still faith).
or...
A being far superior to us was "just there" and this being's origin cannot be explained. Through intelligent design, the universe, it's laws, and life was set into motion. Take religion out of it. This also requires faith in the unknown mystery of the being, but logically makes far more sense than the faith required to perpetuate the absurdity of evolution.
The scientific validity of natural selection does not make the whole fairytale true. It is just a byproduct of the environment, not the key to its origins.
To have so many people on this blog claiming to be highly educated and making fun of "sheep" who beleive things spoon fed to them without research or analytical scrutiny, I would encourage a little introspection.
In time, evolution will be mocked as the biggest falshood every perpetrated by our educational system and closed-minded scientists who hope against hope that they are right - a bigger scandal than all the RE bubbles, GOP and Dem debacles combined.
In time, evolution will be mocked as the biggest falshood
Perhaps you are correct, however right now we can definitely say that Christianity is the biggest falsehood ever. Nothing has caused more harm than this fake religion. Christians are stupid people. This latest thing with Faggard proves their stupidity.
Please go to the following website - and read the article in Harper's Magazine that appeared about this guy in March 2005.
Yes - the people in the church are drinking Kool-Aid --- just look at the artwork that is hung in that church and tell me it is not homoerotic and sadomasochistic.
What the hell - the whole movie Passion of the Christ was a homoerotic extravaganza that would have made Tom of Finland blush.
Signed - ONE PISSED OFF REPUBLICAN - vote the bums out on Tuesday - for the sake of the country and your grandchildren
Sorry - forgot the link --
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/11/no-nothing-gay-there.html
I now refer people here not for the real estate crash. That started long ago, but to document how far left and sicko those on the left have become.
It's funny how those who hate Christians quote Christ out of context to support not defending our country, to support gay lifestyles, bizarre family unions, etc.
The fact that Haggard is gay is only a big deal because he's conservative. If he did what he did, it's wrong period, but if he has gay tendencies, but fought them to stay on the straight (pun intended) and narrow, I respect him more for resisting as long as he did the demon of homosexuality he apparently is fighting.
He's not a hypocrite. That's just another word the left has hijacked to describe anyone who opposes behavior they sometimes succumb to.
For those of you who describe Christianity as a fairy tale, or denigrate it in other ways, you'll still bow before Christ, just before he throws your worthless carcass into the lake of fire.
You people think you know so much, but you know nothing about human behavior. A know it all attitude is exactly the mindset that God said (it's in Proverbs) would prevent many from ever knowing the truth.
hypocrisy (hi-pok'ri-si) n. pretending to be what one is not, as good or virtuous; simulating feeling one does not experience.
-Webster's
Let's not call that trite and feeble gathering a church. These gullible idiotic people are destroying this great country in the name of religion. How many Jim Bakkers rent-a-preachers do we need to see exposed as frauds and hypocrites before the unthinking masses get a clue?
people of faith need to remain independent. that's my take.
this brain dead, drink the kool-aid rush to the party of karl rove is a joke. The GOP used them, pure and simple, to win elections. They got poor people to vote against their own self interests, for the sake of the rich and big business.
+++++++
Exactly. This is the one thing that has hurt me so badly about Bush and his cronies: the way they have been evil hypocrites, lying to people right and left, all so they could win political support for their sick goals....
[ARCANA News, Nov. 3] They're calling the new Christian
evangelical problem case, Rev. Ted Haggard, a real Fellatio Alger
story. Haggard did, observers note, graduate from "Oral" Roberts
University.
Haggard, in his own defense regarding the reports of
homosexual liaisons and drug use, said, "I only inhaled!" [pbg]
[ARCANA News, Nov. 3] They're naming a new sexual lubricant after
Ted Haggard, head of the National Association of Evangelicals.
It's called Evang-Jelly.
TED HAGGARD "SPEAKS IN TONGUES," sees visions and talks to
God in quiet times the way Frank Buchman did.
Ted Haggard is a leader of The Arlington Group, founded by
Paul Weyrich -- the national coordinating executive for the
deployment of anti-homosexual initiatives for Republican Party
advantage, such as the current ballot initiative in Virginia, and
that in Ohio in 2004.
Haggard heads the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE)
based in Colorado Springs, in tandem with and down the street
from The Navigators, a prime agency in the religious conversion
of President George W. Bush. NAE and the Navigators cooperate
with James Dobson's Focus on the Family and other groups, all
based in Colorado Springs, CO, clustered around the U.S. Air
Force Academy. The Navigators spun off the Promise Keepers, and
developed the curriculum that was used in the Texas men's group
to which George W. Bush belonged in his conversion to
fundamentalism.
Ted Haggard's political status with Bush and Karl Rove is
described in this excerpt from a 2004 {Wall Street Journal}
article (Elizabeth Bernstein, "All the Candidates' Clergy", WSJ,
Aug. 13, 2004):
"Like many pastors, the Rev. Ted Haggard has a packed
schedule ... But in his Palm Pilot, next to an electronic copy of
the Bible, Mr. Haggard has one Monday appointment that stands
out: `3 p.m.: White House.' It's a weekly conference call Mr.
Haggard dials into that's led by Tim Goeglein, the White House's
liaison to the conservative community, and includes prominent
religious leaders. `We have direct access,' says Mr. Haggard,
senior pastor of the giant New Life Church in Colorado Springs,
Colo. `I can call [Mr. Goeglein], he'll take my concern to the
president and get back to me in 24 hours.'
"... The Rev. Ted Haggard ... founded New Life with 20
members in 1985, after having a vision of the church while
fasting for three days atop Pikes Peak. Today, the church has
11,000 members, and is building one of the largest church
sanctuaries in the state. Mr. Haggard, president of the 30
million-member National Evangelical Association, speaks
nationally against abortion and in favor of the war in Iraq, as
well as other topics.
"The weekly conference call with the White House lets Mr.
Haggard, 48, give the administration `the pulse of the
evangelical world,' he says. One recent Monday, he says, the
discussion centered on Sen. Kerry's post-convention polling
(participants were delighted there was no large `bump'). `It's
useful to communicate,' he says.
"On Sept. 19, [Haggard] will co-host a two-hour broadcast
encouraging viewers to make it to the polls and to call their
congressional representatives in support of the Federal Marriage
Amendment, which would ban same-sex marriages. The show will be
carried on three Christian television networks and as many as
1,500 Christian radio stations.
"Meanwhile, Mr. Haggard makes no secret of his support of
President Bush. Of the three framed pictures hanging outside his
office, two are of himself and the president. (The other is of
himself and Mel Gibson, who pre-screened `The Passion of Christ'
at a conference organized by Mr. Haggard.)"
In the recently published memoir by former White House
official David Kuo, {Tempting Faith: An Inside Story of Political
Seduction}, it is reported that Karl Rove and George Bush worked
very closely with evangelical leaders such as Ted Haggard and
James Dobson for political reasons, but privately thought that
they were crazy religious anatics. Rove reportedly referred to aggard and Dobson as "the nuts."
I don't know why anybody would be surprised by the Haggard revelation. This is just what evangelicals do. If you want to get laid you go to a church function. But be prepared because the very next day your conquests will be literally swearing they are still virgins.
I do molecular biology research professionally. When I was an undergraduate in N.Y., my dogmatic zoology professor forced us to read Dawkins' book, "The Selfish Gene." It was a big pile of crap, full of blind faith and speculation with no evidence to back it up, much like the THEORY of evolution in itself.
He suggested that life began with RNA that self-replicated on rocks. RNA is one of the most chemically unstable molecules I have had the misfortune to work with.
From that moment, I realized that so-called "scientists" were dogmatic materialists with boxed answers; uninterested in asking questions and finding answers. The "blind faith" and dogma cuts both ways. These are the same kinds of people who put Galileo on trial, not only the religious right.
Slimer, put down the crack pipe.
Evolution is the best explanation for the history of life on earth.
beebs
I'm new here. Yesterday's article in SF Gate drew my attention and I dropped in. From what I've seen, this is most assuredly not a "left" or "right" forum. It's decidedly anti-charlatan. Since it daily becomes more apparent that many, if not most, of our severe problems are the result of rampant charlatanism, that is a very useful focus. I'm a political moderate with a strong libertarian bent, gay male in a stable relationship, no debt kinda guy. I spend a huge amount of time looking for credible explanations of the phenomena of life. I'm not a scientist or member of any religion; I don't believe in evolution or religious dogma. They are "explanations" with relative levels of credibility, as far as I'm concerned, not things to be believed or dis-believed. Now, this Haggard affair is really something, because it shakes the tree of life for a lot of people, who are by definition satisfied with one explanation of life. It's now up to Mr. Haggard to decide whether or not he will continue to be a charlatan, or an honest, forthright person who could actually utilize the excellent teachings of Christ to soften the hard hearts of his followers and show them that love for your fellow man is not easy, but worth the hard work. He could become a latter-day Bonhoeffer, who pointed out that living an authentic Christian life will most likely result in hardship and death. It's not likely, is it?
Keith,
Like I said yesterday, love your blog's commentary on real estate.
But some of your readers are turning the combox into a gladiator arena.
Since when did this place turn into a Kos zone?
Sincerely,
an enthusiastic fan
beebs and disgorge:
You have no idea what you are talking about. Just keep drinking your materialist kool-aid. Why is it such a problem for you people to simply accept that we are monkeys with cars, without all of the answers in life?
You are brainwashed morons. I'm sure you took Bio 101 in kolledge. I graded the exams of dumbasses like you, who never learned how to think for themselves. Just accepted your programming, didn't you?
But don't presume that mankind has the answer to the origin of life just because the likes of Dawkins told you so. Materialism is just another religion. That's not what Science is supposed to be about.
I've had the details of evolution shoved down my throat for years. It's part of my profession. And, knowing what I know (many times more than you), I can say with authority:
Natural selection and the origin of new species = mentally reasonable
Evolution and the spontaneous origin of life = stupidly blind faith
By the way. Following a pompass a** like Dawkins does not make you smart by association. You're just a dumb sheep who likes his canned answers. Materialists are the only stupid people on earth who have the audacity to think they're smarter than everyone else.
Christians are so stupid, so gullible, and so easy trick that I'm sure they shouldn't be allowed to vote. Voting in a democracy presupposes an informed voter base that is rational and capable of making decisions. Christians do not make it into that category. They only believe in faith and whatever their corrupt homosexual preacher or pastor is telling them.
Conclusion, Christians are too stupid to be allowed to vote.
Holy cow that dude is a lunatic. I remember another disgraced Evangelical nut named Bob Larson whose show "Talk Back" was incredibly hilarious, with on-air exorcisms and more pleas for money than a PBS Pledge Drive. That nut's answer to anyone who said the world was over a couple thousand years old was met with "Yeah??? Well what about Piltdown man?" and then before the caller could site any more scientific information, he'd hang up on them.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people." -Karl Marx
The sad thing here is also that he will use "Christ's love and forgiveness" to mount a comeback. He'll come back a changed man and they'll throw more money at him.
A study done at Stanford a couple of years ago showed a direct correlation between homophobia and latent homosexuality. The subjects were shown gay pornography and attached to penis and heart monitors. The subjects who had been profiled as classic homophobes denied having sexual arousal, however, all the monitors showed strong arousal. The non-homophobic men showed no signs of arousal whatsoever.
What I want to know is why straight women are so dopey. This guy is about as swishy as they get. He's a hair's breadth away from being a 'singe your eyebrows' queen, yet his wife didn't catch onto this?
Born again christians are the Useful Idiots of the GOP
All those who dismiss evolution as 'just a theory' should just jump out the window of a 50 story building. After all, gravity is 'just a theory' too. Who knows, maybe this time you'll fly up into the air instead of splat onto the ground. Einstein, DID NOT believe in a PERSONAL god. Meaning he did not believe in a god who listens to you whine and beg to get onto the cheerleading team this year. So all you fairytale believing numbskulll dipsh*t born again jesus freaks can stop glomming onto Einstein. Your combined brain power would not amount to even the power of a single brain cell in Einstein's head. You are nothing but a bunch of filthy breeder dog scum. Now go back to worshiping the tooth fairy and speaking in gobbledy gook in hopes that some guy with a white beard sitting on a cloud is going to wave his magic wand and pay your mortgage for you this month.
If you christians are so smart how come science had to set you dipsh*ts straight so many times? Doesn't your garbage book of fairytales tell you that the sun revolves around the earth? Doesn't it tell you that the earth is flat? Doesn't it tell you that this planet is the center of the universe? Let me guess, those are all theories too. You brainless scum will bow down and worship before the altar of science one way or another. You will either do it now, or at the end of your worthless lives when you are at the mercy of the scientists from the pharmeceutical companies and the healthcare industry whom you will beg to save your lives.
You dogs talk about your fairytale god and yet who do you go running to as soon as you get the sniffles? That's right, you all go running to the men of science. Why doesn't Yahweh the mountain god wave his magic wand and fix your brain cancer or ass cancer? Doesn't Yahweh know more about the human body than a mere mortal??? Didn't he invent the human body? How comical is it that pope John Paul II rushes off to see the best physicians to fix his health. Isn't he supposed to have a direct line to Yahweh the Mountain god? So why didn't he put his life in the hands of Yahweh?
Any born again christian should be forced to live in a cave and travel by foot, these dogs do not deserve to benefit from scientific inventions such as the car or electric light bulbs. Why should they have mega churches filled with audio visual equipment that was invented by scientists? Let these dogs live like dogs, they should never benefit from any of the bounties of science. If they get sick, the doctor should throw them out onto the street. They should only be allowed to go to their retarded 'laying of hands' churches for healing.
The clergyhood as a vocation is for lazy parasite scum who don't want to do a hard honest day's work for a living. Yet these filthy scum sit in judgement of hardworking men and women and con them out of their money.
Religion is a disease of the brain, science is the cure.
regarding Ted Haggard and rememberance of Bill Clinton. how are they alike?
Bill said, he smoked dope, but did not inhale.
our friend Ted, well, perhaps he sucked, but did not swallow?
Let's see - Christians should not be able to vote, they are scum and should only be able to live in caves - Such hate - this from the tolerant liberal left?
the man was a hypocrite. move on. for anyone to judge the whole congregation by the hypocrisy of their leader is folly. the congregation would not willingly choose to be led by such a man. each person comes to faith or disbelief on their own terms and for their own reasons. G*d almighty is the only one who knows each of our own motives and he's the only one who will judge. Or not. passing off ideas that a big group of people is worthy of pissing upon based on the actions of a few is what gives fuel to those who would dehumanize and destroy whole groups of other people. if you can't place nice, take your toys and go home.
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