I think we have our "assassination of the archduke" moment, the classic "yup, it all snowballed from there" instigation.
Sure, knocking down a couple of buildings and slaughtering thousands got us riled up, but it takes two to tangle, and a lot of the billion-plus muslims are now seething as the head of the christian religion seemingly called their religion's head-dude evil and inhumane.
Cartoons? Smartoons. This is the POPE after all. Now it's really party time.
So now it's the islamist cult leaders who are really taking the ball and running with it. Nope, it doesn't matter anymore what the pope said, or how many times he apologizes (or if he wants to, should or can - remember that popes are infallible, and believe muslims will burn in hell). What matters is that this played right into their hands, perfectly, giving them the final reason to open their pandora's box.
I submit this from the real leader of Iran:
In Iran, supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei used the comments to call for protests against the United States. He argued that while the pope may have been deceived into making his remarks, the words give the West an "excuse for suppressing Muslims" by depicting them as terrorists.
"Those who benefit from the pope's comments and drive their own arrogant policies should be targeted with attacks and protests," he said, referring to the United States.
And I submit this from a whacko-islamist group:
Another Iraqi extremist group, Ansar al-Sunna, challenged "sleeping Muslims" to prove their manhood by doing something other than "issuing statements or holding demonstrations."
"If the stupid pig is prancing with his blasphemies in his house," the group said in a Web statement, referring to the pope, "then let him wait for the day coming soon when the armies of the religion of right knock on the walls of Rome."
And from our friends in al-qaida:
Al-Qaida in Iraq said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose the 'jizya' tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (being killed by) the sword."
Dammit - another tax! Right when my property tax was going up and my ARM adjusting!
So stay tuned HP'ers. And yes, it all goes together.
September 19, 2006
WWIII update: Iran leader - "Those who benefit from the pope's comments and drive their own arrogant policies should be targeted with attacks"
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Yep, party time is just around the corner.
Muslims: Pope Must Apologize!
How To Negotiate With Terrorists
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So at the end of days, Jesus comes back and tells everyone that they need to be get on the islamic bandwagon.
Oh, man, this stuff is great!
On the Day of Resurrection, a call-maker will announce, "Let every nation follow that which they used to worship." Then none of those who used to worship anything other than Allah like idols and other deities but will fall in Hell (Fire), till there will remain none but those who used to worship Allah, both those who were obedient (i.e. good) and those who were disobedient (i.e. bad) and the remaining party of the people of the Scripture. Then the Jews will be called upon and it will be said to them, 'Who do you use to worship?' They will say, 'We used to worship Ezra, the son of Allah.' It will be said to them, 'You are liars, for Allah has never taken anyone as a wife or a son. What do you want now?' They will say, 'O our Lord! We are thirsty, so give us something to drink.' They will be directed and addressed thus, 'Will you drink,' whereupon they will be gathered unto Hell (Fire) which will look like a mirage whose different sides will be destroying each other. Then they will fall into the Fire.
Afterwards the Christians will be called upon and it will be said to them, 'Who do you use to worship?' They will say, 'We used to worship Jesus, the son of Allah.' It will be said to them, 'You are liars, for Allah has never taken anyone as a wife or a son,' Then it will be said to them, 'What do you want?' They will say what the former people have said. Then, when there remain (in the gathering) none but those who used to worship Allah (Alone, the real Lord of the Worlds) whether they were obedient or disobedient. (Bukhari, vol. 6, book 65, no. 4581)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=24199
Hey Muslims, Suck our infidel d*@$s. Your prophet Mohammed was a child molester, rapist and war monger. There, insulting enough? now start your m*thrf*n jihad you backward stone age f**ks so we can wipe you off the planet and sin in peace.
Please, if you are a rabid pissed off muslim, take to the streets in amnerica with your violent bullshit so our rednecks can pick you off easier. Otherwise go back to your sandboxes and commence killing each other, let us know when your done so we can come get our oil.
On most things you are spot on.
However I think you are off quite a bit on this WWIII idea. It will come someday and the sooner the better for the English speaking people. More likely world war will start when the other side is ready.
Iran may seem big and bad and Irans president may seems such an evil hated man by the west. The president of Iran was just skiing in Colorado. Yeah he vacations like a rich liberal. Surely you know the heads of state are just one big puppet show? Like celebrities with some responsibility. The real power is hidden elsewhere. It’s up to us to find out where - but, not likely that we will.
whats a jism tax? Theres gonna be alot of poor bloggers after thats imposed.
Bread and circus
Like the two supposedly diametrically opposed parties. Republican and Democrat that are really not different. These religions are so too false distinctions, nothing but sports teams. Your crazies or mine. I just hope that these powerful people behind the scenes are the most reasonable and not just the most shrewd.
It's ultimatum timefor these dipshits. To all leaders of Islamic ruled countries - keep your rabble in check, you've got 90 days to crack down on radical Islamasicts before the nukes start flying.
here's a letter from The Leader (head iran sky god dude) to the leader of hezbollah after their 'victory' over israel:
What you presented as a gift to the Islamic Ummah through your unique jihad and resistance is beyond my description. Your valorous all-out jihad, which evoked divine assistance and brought about your victory, once again proved that modern deadly weapons are ineffective in the face of faith, patience and devotion, and that a nation which is characterized by faith and jihad will not be conquered by tyrannical powers.
Your victory was the victory of Islam. By the power of Allah, you were able to prove that military superiority does not consist in military equipment and weapons and airplanes and warships and tanks, but that it is inherent in faith, jihad and self-sacrifice combined with wisdom and prudence.
You imposed your military supremacy on the Zionist regime, perpetuated your spiritual ascendancy at the regional and international levels, mocked the myth of invincibility and feigned formidableness of the Zionist regime’s army, and exposed the vulnerability of the usurper regime. You brought honor to Arab nations and displayed their capabilities to all on the scene of action, the capabilities which had been negated for tens of years by the propaganda and policies of the arrogant powers.
http://www.khamenei.ir/EN/Message/detail.jsp?id=20060817A
Religion is beautiful.
The Pope has direct contact with God and so God must want us to kill the muslims...very nice.
The muslims just want to kill people because we are rich they are poor even though they have all the oil.
I hope this puts a big nail in the Catholic, Christian, and Muslim coffin as anybody that believes in 2000 year old philisophical myths are retarded...plain and simple!
I just hope Pamala Anderson turns out to be Jesus and not Paris Hilton, she is way to thin.
Why can Catholic and Muslim priests just live in peace and molest young boys together and focus thier attention on killing Jews again?
The Jews are one with all the money and education after all.
2000 year old myths still affecting our everyday lives in negative ways
believe in god, but do not believe in these silly man-made myths
The ones in charge of those religions are as retarted as a fox! People like to be told how to live and think. Freedom of choice? Freedom from choice. - Devo.
"By the power of Allah, you were able to prove that military superiority does not consist in military equipment and weapons and airplanes and warships and tanks, but that it is inherent in faith, jihad and self-sacrifice combined with wisdom and prudence."
--- some crazy dude
"God is on the side with the most artillery." --- Napoleon Bonaparte
...keep your rabble in check, you've got 90 days to crack down on radical Islamasicts before the nukes start flying.
What would using nukes gain us?
Don't you realize that path is
insane? Not that I would put it
past the current CinC, though.
Some HiLights
A notorious Muslim extremist told a demonstration in London yesterday that the Pope should face execution.
Anjem Choudary said those who insulted Islam would be "subject to capital punishment".
As well as placards attacking the Pope such as "Pope go to Hell", his followers outside the country's principal Roman Catholic church also waved slogans aimed at offending the sentiments of Christians such as "Jesus is the slave of Allah".
Iraqi jihadists issued a video of a scimitar slicing a cross in two, intercut with images of Benedict and the burning Twin Towers.
http://tinyurl.com/zhze4
September 16, 2006
By Paul L. Williams & David Dastych
Exclusive to Canada Free Press and Northeast Intelligence
Urgent news from Abu Dawood, the newly appointed commander of the al Qaeda forces in Afghanistan:
Final preparations have been made for the American Hiroshima, a major attack on the U. S.
Muslims living in the United States should leave the country without further warning.
The attack will be commandeered by Adnan el Shukrijumah ("Jaffer Tayyer" or "Jafer the Pilot"), a naturalized American citizen, who was raised in Brooklyn and educated in southern Florida.
The al Qaeda operatives who will launch this attack are awaiting final orders. They remain in place in cities throughout the country. Many are masquerading as Christians and have adopted Christian names.
Al Qaeda and the Taliban will also launch a major strike (known as the "Badar offensive" against the coalition forces in Afghanistan during the holy month of Ramadan.
The American people will be treated to a final audio message from Osama bin Laden which will be aired within the next two weeks.
The announcements from Abu Dawood were obtained by Hamid Mir, the only journalist to interview Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and Taliban leader Mullah Omar in the wake of 9/11. Mir earlier reports regarding the resurgence of the Taliban with support from Iran and an unofficial truce between President Pervez Musharraf and al Qaeda have been panned out by the press in recent months.
Mr. Mir interviewed Dawood on September 12 at the tomb of Sultan Mehmud Ghaznawi on the outskirts of Kabul. Dawood and the al Qaeda leaders who accompanied him were clean-shaven and dressed as Western reporters. The al Qaeda commandeer had contacted Mir by cell-phone to arrange the meeting. The contents of the encounter are as follows:
Q: How did you have my local mobile number?
A: We watched you on Geo TV walking in the mountains near Kabul with British troops. You were embedded with our enemies. We were sure that you are staying in one of the few hotels or guest houses in Kabul. We were looking for you in Serena and Intercontinental hotels, but then some Taliban friends informed us that they had your phone number and you might visit them in Zabul [an Afghani province]. We got your number from Commander [Muhsen] Khayber. [Khayber was responsible for a homicide bombing in Casablanca that killed 32 people]. Don't worry about that. We will not make any harm to you. We just want to warn you that you better don't take any rides in the tanks and humvis of the Western Forces; they are not safe for any journalist in Afghanistan.
Q: Thanks for your concern; can I know your name?
A: Yes my name is Abu Dawood, if you remember, we have already met in Kunar two years ago, but at that time I had a long beard, now I have a small one. You were there in the mountains, close to Asadaabad [a small village in the Kunar province of eastern Afghanistan] and you met some Al Qaeda fighters. I was among them.
Q: OK. I just want to say that I am a journalist, I have to speak to both sides of a conflict, for getting an objective view and that is why I was traveling with the British troops; now I am sitting with you and that is my real job. I have interviewed Osama bin Laden as well as Condoleezza Rice, General Pervez Musharraf and President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan. I hope you will appreciate my objective approach?
A: You have claimed to be objective, but you and your TV channel have always given much time to the propaganda of our enemies. Anyhow, it was our moral responsibility to warn you that you better try to avoid traveling with the British, American, Canadian, French, Spanish and Italian troops in Afghanistan, we will target all of them, we don't want that people like you suffer by our attacks, it is not good for you, and at least you should not be killed with the enemies of Islam. I am sure, brother Khayber have informed you that the Taliban will launch a big operation against the Crusader Forces, in the holy month of Ramadan; don't come to Afghanistan in Ramadan. You will see a lot of fadaee amalyat ["suicide bombings"] in coming days, Kabul will become a graveyard of NATO and ISAF.
Q: Yes Khayber told me about the "Badar operation" in Ramadan. I think you are an Afghani but you are not a Talib, are you a member of Al Qaeda?
A: You are right. But we are with the Taliban, just helping them, fighting under their command. Every Al Qaeda fighter can become a Talib, but every Talib cannot become Al Qaeda.
Q: So where is Sheikh Osama bin Laden?
A: I don't know exactly, but he is still in command of Al Qaeda, and he is in contact with his Mujaheddin all over the world.
Q: Why there was no new video statement from him, in last two years?
A: Because the CIA can feed his fresh picture to the computers fitted on their Predator planes, and these planes can get him, like Nek Muhammad or Akbar Bugti. But he has released many audio messages this year. Listen to him carefully. Don't underestimate his warnings. America is playing with the security of Muslims all over the world, now it is our turn again. Our brothers are ready to attack inside America. We will breach their security again. There is no timeframe for our attack inside America; we can do it any time.
Q: What do you mean by another attack in America?
A: Yes a bigger attack than September 11th 2001. Brother Adnan [el Shukrijumah] will lead that attack, Inshallah.
Q:Who is Adnan?
A: He is our old friend. The last time, I met him in early 2004, in Khost. He came to Khost from the North Waziristan. He met his leaders and friends in Khost. He is very well known in Al Qaeda. He is an American and a friend of Muhammad Atta, who led 9/11 attacks five years ago. We call him "Jaffer al Tayyar" ["Jafer the Pilot"]; he is very brave and intelligent. Bush is aware that brother Adnan has smuggled deadly materials inside America from the Mexican border. Bush is silent about him, because he doesn't want to panic his people. Sheikh Osama bin Laden has completed his cycle of warnings. You know, he is man of his words, he is not a politician; he always does what he says. If he said it many times that Americans will see new attacks, they will definitely see new attacks. He is a real Mujahid. Americans will not win this war, which they have started against Muslims. Americans are the biggest supporters of the biggest terrorist in the world, which is Israel. You have witnessed the brutality of the Israelis in the recent 34-day war against Lebanese civilians. 9/11 was a revenge of Palestinian children, killed by the US-made weapons, supplied to Israel. The next attack on America would be a revenge of Lebanese children killed by US-made cluster bombs. Bush and Blair are the Crusaders, and Muslim leaders, like Musharraf and [Afghani President Hamid] Karzai are their collaborators, we will teach a lesson to all of them. We are also not happy with some religious parties in Pakistan and Egypt, they got votes in the name of Mujaheddin, and then, they collaborated with Musharraf and [Egyptian President] Hosni Mubarak. Now look at all of them, Musharraf and Karzai don't trust each other, the CIA and ISI don't trust each other, all the hypocrites and enemies of Mujaheddin are suspecting each other; this help to us is coming from Heavens. Allah is with us.
Q: But if you attack inside America again, then Muslims living in America will face lot of problems, why would you like to create new problems for your brothers and sisters?
A: Muslims should leave America. We cannot stop our attack just because of the American Muslims; they must realize that American forces are killing innocent Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq; we have the right to respond back, in the same manner, in the enemy's homeland. The American Muslims are like a human shield for our enemy; they must leave New York and Washington.
Q: But your fighters are also using the American Muslims as their shield, if there are no Muslims in America, then there would be no Al Qaeda, may be the Americans would feel safer?
A: No, not at all. We have a different plan for the next attack. You will see. Americans will hardly find out any Muslim names, after the next attack. Most of our brothers are living in Western countries, with Jewish and Christian names, with passports of Western countries. This time, someone with the name of Muhammad Atta will not attack inside America, it would be some David, Richard or Peter.
Q: So you will not attack America, until Muslims are there?
A: I am not saying that, I am saying that Muslims must leave America, but we can attack America anytime. Our cycle of warnings has been completed, now we have fresh edicts from some prominent Muslim scholars to destroy our enemy, this is our defending of Jihad; the enemy has entered in our homes and we have the right to enter in their homes, they are killing us, we will kill them.
Long time investigative journalist, Paul L. Williams is the author of such best-selling books as The Dunces of Doomsday, The Al Qaeda Connection , Osama's Revenge: The Next 9/11. He has been the subject of a PBS documentary and the subject of programs on the Discovery and History channels. He is a frequent guest on such national news networks as Fox News, MSNBC, and NPR.
(International journalist David M. Dastych writes for Poland's acclaimed weekly,Wprost. His columns appear regularly in the Edmonton-based Polish Panorama.) He can be reached at: David.dastych@aster.pl
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/paul-williams091606.htm
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/article.php?storyid=589
Muslims will Burn in Hell (Not)
"The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
This is the official doctrine of the Catholic Church. The Muslims and Jews are both considered to be fellow believers who acknowledge the Creator and will share in mankind’s salvation. This was also the message of Pope John Paul II as he tried to bring the faiths closer together. Pope Benedict XVI on the other hand seems to have a different agenda. One that could cause the return of hell on earth.
The muslims simply need to be exterminated like the roaches they are.
I know many on this blog like Keith, PanicEarly, Borkafatty and many others are atheists and hate God (there's only one, it's Jesus Christ, all others are pretenders).
You people above have no idea how closely world events are following end-time bible prophecies, but you soon will.
I know you've heard the warnings so often, you're conditioned to dismiss them out of hand automatically. Do yourself a favor. Read a few books or watch a few DVDs on bible prophecy and you'll wonder how in the hell you missed all the signs for so long.
Riddle me this batman...
what is the difference between Bush...the pope...and Ahmadinejad?
Answer:
Only one is not engage in a world dominion policy of hegmony that uses a corporate driven war machine to enslave the masses.
A Muslim Ali Agca tried to assassinate JPII. They've not forgotten history, as the West has, and remember well that King John Sobieski thwarted them at the gates of Vienna on 9/11/1689.
Berlusconi had balls, too bad he's out. I fear Europe has lost its will and fails to comprehend the danger. Italy is lousy with Muslims, along with the rest of Europe. Security it is problematic, if not impossible. I hope the Pope cancels the Turkey visit, but even St. Peter's Sq. could be dangerous now so many have freely entered Europe's "gates".
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
As a ex-Muslim from Middle East and current atheist, I have to say that the fact is if you study history of early Islam it is easy to conclude that Mohammed was evil, inhuman and savage. Also the same can be said about Islam in general.
In my humble opinion the problem lies in that so many people blindly follow a pre-packaged concept of god with no thought to the lack of logic behind the ideas.
A.The fact that an all-knowing god is ultimately responsible for all evil. (It's SO easy to blame satan)
B. The fact that an all-knowing creator is incompatible with the idea of free-will.(squirm all you want,if he knows and he creates, he decides everything in advance)
C.He intentionaly creates people to send to hell. (see above)
D. The bizarre concept of sacrifice.(Killing his "son" makes it all ok.)
E. The concept of prayer shows little faith in god.(You really think he can't make a decision without your input?)
As an ex-Catholic from America and current atheist, I have to say that the fact is if you study the entire history of Christianity it is easy to conclude that Christians are evil, inhumane and savage. Also the same can be said about Muslims and Jews.
"As a ex-Muslim from Middle East and current atheist, I have to say that the fact is if you study history of early Islam it is easy to conclude that Mohammed was evil, inhuman and savage. Also the same can be said about Islam in general."
Ninety five percent of human history is written in blood. We've had a brief, 60-year period with no major conflicts, and apparently that was long enough for some to declare the "end of history" as we entered a new guilded age.
Radical Islam is fueld by plenty of testosterone, but that of itself is not dangerous. Young men have always been a source of energy and if properly channeled, this can lead to significant human progress.
But leaders like UBL, Ahmadinejad, and Nasrallah have set themselves up as demi-gods for these throngs of young Muslims and are supplying them with modern tools for jihad. This is the real danger, and I'm afraid that the only resolution will involve some ugly ethnic cleansing.
The West in general has no stomach for this kind of comflict, so they try compromise and appeasement. When was the last time compromise and appeasement solved a roach infestation?
Nice try to rewrite history. The only compromise or appeasement has been with Israel. Pull your head out of the sand and take a look at the history of our relations in the Middle East. Click Here
I'm not sure what point is being made with this topic.
Pope Benedict XVI portrayed Muslims as being irrational and violent. As a result, Muslims worlwide became irrational and violent.
This is nothing more than a demonstration of Newton's Third Law: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
But according to Bush we're safer because of his big aristocratic balls, so what's the fuss all about?
rc, you need to fix your double ignorance, it's obvious that you don't even know that you don't know.
Human consciousness, or "free will" as you call it, is a gift. Look up the words "parable" and "allegory" and read the bible with those definitions in mind. Where do you suppose this thin veneer we call "civilization" came from, a double-bubble bong?
The story of Jesus is about a mother's love transferred to her son, and forgiveness. Try to look at it in a larger context. Yes, over the centuries many have tried to pervert it and use it for control, but the story stands on its own.
"This time someone with a name of Muhammad Atta will not attack inside America, it would some name of David, Richard or Peter."
Richard who? LOL.
Sure Tom, and if we pressed a button and made Israel go poof, all our troubles with Islam would vanish too?
The radicals have spelled out the ultimate fate of "infidels" many times. What part of convert or die don't you understand?
boring
yawn
"I know many on this blog like Keith, PanicEarly, Borkafatty and many others are atheists and hate God"
Hate to feed a troll, but what a stupid statement. Not believing in 2000 year old man-made sky-god religions has nothing to do with believing in god
"you're with us or against us" and "my god is better than your god" simple minds are the ones who have gotten us to the point we are today
thinking like this troll shows either a failure of the american education system, or a failure of a closed mind. A failure none the less
Oh come on, at least they are giving you the option to convert, unlike their Zionist counterparts. The Zionists just shoot you, blanket your village with cluster bombs, bulldoze your house while you’re still inside, cut off your food and water, or do countless other monstrous things. Oh, yea, they seem to be winning according to the body count. My point is leave us out of it. Israel is doing these things and we should distance ourselves from them.
Hey Moderate Infidel,
Yeah, you, the guy who writes this sort of thing:
"Hey Muslims, Suck our infidel d*@$s. Your prophet Mohammed was a child molester, rapist and war monger. "
So, I guess by that logic, what happened to this guy is just fine:
Canadian Was Falsely Accused, Panel Says
I mean, he may not have been doing anything wrong, but he is a muslim, so he should be sucking your d_ck and all...right?
"Pope Benedict XVI portrayed Muslims as being irrational and violent. As a result, Muslims worlwide became irrational and violent.
Not precisely, trailer trash. The Pope quoted a 14th c. emperor who spoke of the violence inherent, at very core of Islam, itself.
anon said:
" Try to look at it in a larger context. Yes, over the centuries many have tried to pervert it and use it for control, but the story stands on its own."
Yes, true. That's the problem- how many see a larger context? Look at the tempest over the Pope's lecture, how it's been mischaracterized within a few days.
Mobs of poor, uneducated Muslims are easily manipulated by hate-filled mullahs. We get riots and suicide-bombs from them. There's a cultish contingent of educated but emotionally retarded (by-product of Islam) foot soldiers (Atta, etc.) willing to commit larger acts of violence funded by deep- pocketed Muslim nutjobs.
The West can't speak the obvious without ridiculed, being hobbled by PC guidelines.
Islam is a cancer, a f'd up worldview, born and spread in violence, fed by ignorance, hatred and poverty. A pity it affected so many as it metasticized through the centuries.
That said, while Islam is a truly retarded religion, and poses grave danger to civilization, it is only very loosely related to the war in Iraq (and escalating Iran situation). Look to another desert nation and its powerful American lobby to find the roots of American ME policy. So many layers to this onion.
Tabasco, I should have clarified - Muslims that are intolerant of criticism of their stupid cult can suck my d**k. That better? The Muslims that are able to go about their lives and live in peace like most people are just fine by me. Anyone who uses threats of violence to silence criticism deserves a nuke up their ass.
Tom, you jew hating tw*t, you can suck it too. Now go back to your white pride world wide blog where you belong. The elders of zion are watching you.
The muslims simply need to be exterminated like the roaches they are.
I prefer to treat them like a herd with Mad Cow Disease. Most don't have it, but we can't take the chance. Buh Bye.
Who cares about the Pope. He's just a figurehead anyway. He's gets as closed to God as I used to with a hit a mesk.
The Pope and the vatican only worship the green god. Money!! If the pope dies there will be mourning and they will replace him. If someone tried to take the Vatican's money then all hell will break loose.
Money is the only God the Vatican worships and they will kill every person (not just Muslims) to protect it. They've been doing it for thousands of years.
Muslims have done it for a little while and all of a sudden they are the bad guys?
Destroy all religion!! Start with the dirtiest of them all, Catholics!!
Moderate Infidel:
"Anyone who uses threats of violence to silence criticism deserves a nuke up their ass."
Oh man, that is quite a quote.
Are you even capable of sensing even the slightest hint of irony or hypocrisy in that statement?
Predicted answer: I was being sarcastic.
Yeah, sure ya were, you dumb ass.
Go masturbate some more and stop writing idiotic hateful remarks on housing blogs.
Hey the pope was a young nazi...
Keith any comment?
Hey Prescott Bush was a Nazi advocate...
Keith any comment?
Hey - Girly man Arnold's father was an SS officer and Arnold wants to amend the constitution so he can be prez...
Keith any comment?
paintblot - that actually was a good post - and that was the scariest movie trailer I've ever seen in my life
aaaauuuuggggghhhh!!!!!
Classic Keith style - avoid facts -
more pop corn please...
Richard,
Oceania is no longer at war with Eurasia. We are now allies.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Come on, get with the program!
Tabasco, actually it was a typo, I meant to write "cuke" not "nuke".
richards - I agree with all three of your points. so what's your point?
Tabasco, what is your fascination with masturbation? Why do you want me to do it? you sound a little perverted. no, you can't watch! Now go back to whatever it is you do in your cubicle at company x amalgamated inc.
Why aren't the catholics rioting in the street over the burning of the pope's effigy in the Islamic world? Get some balls Catholics. Is there a Catholic fatwa equivalent?
We don't need to nuke them. Just stop consuming ME oil. Otherwise, we are funding our own destruction...
"Hey the pope was a young nazi..."
B.S.
I guess Richard goes to public school.
Keith - you continually bash the Iran government - akin to Nazi germany -
Yet our own government is currently employing a facist police state - dominated by corporate greed - driven by reduced oil supplies.
My point/? - where Keith is the balance in your posts?
Anonpuss 2006 4:14:59 PM
rc, you need to fix your double ignorance, it's obvious that you don't even know that you don't know.
or is obvious that I do know that I know and don't give a rats a$$ what you think.
"The truth is that as Ratzinger mentions himself in Milestones: Memoirs: 1927 - 1977, he and his brother George were both enrolled in the Hitler Youth and discusses family life under the Third Reich in chapters 2-4 of his autobiography."
Hey ANON - u read much?
Richard and Tom like to share the "facts" they learn at their white pride/jew haters/9-11 conspiracy club meetings. Everything else they get from the internut.
Hey Mod Inf...This fact is in HIS ON BOOK !
fool
that would be fact 2 -
an "autobiography" is a book on ones own experiences.
Moderate Infidel -
"Why aren't the catholics rioting in the street over the burning of the pope's effigy in the Islamic world? Get some balls Catholics. Is there a Catholic fatwa equivalent? "
Is the Pope now equivalent to Mohammed? I wasn't aware that Christianity was based on the Pope, I thought it was based on Jesus.
And really now, haven't you seen the Christians get in a lather when Jesus is disrespected? Haven't you watched Fox News for the last 10 years? Are you unaware of the War on Christmas?
So, are those same hysterical Christian freaks worthy of being nuked (or cuked, as you say) also?
You're just a follower. You hate muslims because they're on the wrong team right now. It's the intellectually lazy way to be, and what our dear chimp leader is basing his power on right now.
Congratulations on being a tool.
“Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951” - Federal Documents
By John Buchanan and Stacey Michael
from The New Hampshire Gazette Vol. 248, No. 3, November 7, 2003
After the seizures in late 1942 of five U.S. enterprises he managed on behalf of Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, failed to divest himself of more than a dozen "enemy national" relationships that continued until as late as 1951, newly-discovered U.S. government documents reveal.
The son of an SS nazi officer,
Schwarzenegger has publicly stated that
he has dreamed of being a dictator and that he
admires Hitler. He campaigned for war criminal
Kurt Waldhiem after it had been made public that he
was a top nazi.
The stories of Arnold's barbaric harrassment of women are
legendary. He publicly admits to steroid and marijuana use.
He supported Enron chief, Ken Lay during the California energy
crisis and now his political operatives have launched a blitzkrieg
promoting him for President and seeking to end the Constitutional
bar against him holding that office
ARTICLE II, SECTION 1, CLAUSE 5
It's an urban legend that the 22nd Amendment is blocking Arnold. It is Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution itself that bars him. Here is its text:
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution States: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
"Richard and Tom like to share the "facts" they learn at their white pride/jew haters/9-11 conspiracy club meetings. "
Yeah, Richard and Tom, it's all about hating the muslims now. We are no longer at war with Eurasia, we have always been at war with Eastasia. The Ministry of Truth said so!
yeah - Keith keeps this blog flush with Muslim hating posts.
who cares paint -
the point is Keith is using this blog to promote racism, but attempts to cloak it under the housing crash umbrella.
Be a man Keith.
Tabasco, I subscribe to no religion. I don't recall christians burning churches and shooting mullahs in the back like the muslims did to the nun in somalia. I do recall them using free speech and voicing their opinions though without violence and fatwas. As usual, your argument is full of doo-doo.
paintblot:
Jesus has been dead for 2000 years, cut him some slack.
Hey paintblot, I just watched that preview, holy christian jihad batman. I hope they send their kids to Palestine so they can get a good dose of real jihad from the professionals, they'll come running back screaming for nintendo and slurpees real soon.
Tabasco, you meant to say Jesus has been RISEN from the dead for 200 years! :-) Guess that makes him a zombie like his followers.
Dumb Infidel:
I don't recall is as usual the sentence uttered by the stupid:
California Mosque Fire Investigated as Hate Crime
Mosque burned down in southeastern Dutch village in suspected arson attack
Mosque Burned in Irkutsk Oblast
Arson Suspected in France Mosque Fire
Burned holy books found at Blacksburg mosque
Cause sought in mosque fire
Victorville man charged about vandalizing burned Mosque
Community's shock at imam attack
Mosque Destroyed in Terror Attack Near Russian Capital
Mosque defaced
Burning of sanctuary stokes fears of Islamophobia in Spain
Allright, I'm getting tired of copying and pasting.
Do you get the point yet, dumb infidel?
opps, I meant 2000, not 200.
oops, I meant oops, not opps. I guess I am a dumb ass like you say.
oops, I meant oops, not opps. I guess I am a dumb ass like you say.
Tabassh*le, You cited examples of individuals or tiny groups acting on their own and not sanctioned by or incited by religious leaders as is the case with Islam. Again, your argument sucks.
Hey panicearly, blot, tabasco, richard, what are you going to do if justice prevails, Israel disappears, the Palestinians "win", and the West capitulates?
When that friendly Imam knocks on your door and tells you to prostrate and convert, what will you do? Tell him you're an atheist, a pacifist? That should go over big time. Tell him you hate Bush and Cheney? Yeah, that will matter.
Come on, we're all curious how the kum-ba-yah crowd will deal with Islam when it gets in their faces all close and personal.
Hey last ANON get a freagg'n handle -
drive by posts - weak - really weak
Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:09:24 PM
I can tell you one thing, until that completely ludicrous fantasy scenario of yours plays out, I won't be wetting my bed at night in prostrate cowardly fear like you apparently are.
Did mommy tell you a few too many boogeyman stories?
http://baltimorechr onicle.com/ 2006/091806LINDO RFF.html
STRONG COMMENTARY:
On Constitution Day: Talk of Impeachment and Rumors of War
by DAVE LINDORFF
The threat of presidential abuse of power is back, including the same crime of illegal spying that Nixon was impeached for--this time more seriously than before.
The talk on the the weekend of Sept. 16-17 at Camp Democracy in the shadow of the Washington Monument on the National Mall was of impeaching the president--and of looming war with Iran.
Dumb infidel,
"Tabassh*le, You cited examples of individuals or tiny groups acting on their own and not sanctioned by or incited by religious leaders as is the case with Islam. Again, your argument sucks."
Just what exactly do you think all of the Christian leaders in the United States are talking about when they say we are nearing the end of times? They envision a war to end all wars with the muslim devils in the middle east. If that isn't instigating violence, I'm not sure what is. Listen to Pat Robertson some time. Read some Michael Evans and Tim Lahaye. Why do you think 70% of this Christian nation were so gung ho about going into Iraq?
If Iraq wasn't full of muslims and situated in the middle east it would have been the same, even if they did have WMD and had been involved with 9/11? You think none of that was incited by religious leaders?
Keep dreaming. They have as much blood on their hands as any mullahs do.
"The West in general has no stomach for this kind of comflict"
Don't kid yourself, Anglo-saxon temperament is slow to chide, once public opinion (and it's changing now) reaches the point of enoughs enough, cases of whoop arse will be opened with abandon!!
"The truth is that as Ratzinger mentions himself in Milestones: Memoirs: 1927 - 1977, he and his brother George were both enrolled in the Hitler Youth"
So??
Everyone of a certain age of that period (In Germany) was also, seeing as it was compulsory at the time.
Your point was??
Tabasheel, "All the christian leaders" "Pat Robertson". Theres a big difference between actual christian leaders of denominations and then clowns like Pat Robertson. If you do not know the difference you need help. anyway, please reference the quotes from "all the christian leaders" inciting their flock to commit violence. Try to stick to actual leaders and not comical televangelists.
If the pope was a true nazi he'd be praising Islam and supporting jihad against jews.
"Your point was?? "
he was a young nazi -
that was my original statement...
that is fact.
indoctrination comes 2 mind
I love these Muslim A-holes!
When told their radical extremism is violent!
They get Bent, and say your wrong, We are peacful!
Now we're going to Kill you for implying such a thing!
Richard...oops I mean Panicearly or how many names you use, has your shift at Starbucks started yet?
It's quite a fascinating dynamic at work, the whole Israeli/Jew -- anti-Israel/ anti-Semite issue.
The people who spend the most time conflating Israel and Judaism are proponents of Israeli policies. This allows them to accuse critics of those policies of anti-Semitism.
Then, opponents of Israeli policies start buying into this notion and start ranting about "the Jews" as the root of all evil -- effectively supporting the notion that all criticism of Israel is rooted in anti-Semitism.
As a result, criticism of Israel becomes taboo in the mainstream, because it becomes perceived as a thinly-veiled anti-Semitism.
In turn, the fact that their point of view is marginalized and dismissed confirms the belief of the opponents of Israel that Jews are secretly running everything.
So the critics become louder and more paranoid in their anti-Jew rants, further strengthening the position of the expansionists that all criticism of Israel is founded in racism, further marginalizing those who disagree with Israeli policies.
And so on.
It seems like a similar dynamic applies to the present US administration' s public relations. They make moderate noises in public, while they quietly implement extremist policies which provoke an outraged response from their opponents. Their supporters don't see the extreme policies, only the outraged response, and figure "those liberals must be crazy, they just hate this guy for no reason."
It's called polarization. And it works very effectively, as long as people allow themselves to give in to bigotry and hatred.
Dumb Infidel,
Here's one teeny example:
Russia and Iran in Prophecy
And this is not just some kook, the Left Behind series of books has sold over 10 million copies.
It's all spelled out pretty clearly by Lahaye and the many other ministers who follow him. And yes, they are actual christian leaders with their own demonitions. Check out who wrote the article, for example.
They want a climactic end times war to take place in Northern Israel on the battle field of Armageddon. That is why they were giddy over the short lived Hezbolla/Israel War and the potential for it to spread into a war involving Iran and Syria as well. And it made them really happy that Bush tried to let it spread and spoke on and on about Iran and Syria. They saw it coming. It was in their grasp. But alas, not yet.
But don't worry, they still have hope and idiots like you to keep inflaming things further.
Now go do your own research and educate yourself a little bit.
Once again Tabooli, you did not make your point. Right wing christian dipshits have been around forever, the point is they aren't burning mosques, issuing fatwas and burning effigies in the streets and the left behind series does not instruct them to. They don't strap suicide belts to their kids (yet) and they do not openly call for the destruction and genocide of a race of people. You are the real dumb ass who cannot prove your point or cannot understand what it was in the first place.
"Jesus has been dead for 2000 years, cut him some slack."
Yeah but he was only dead for 3 days.
Islam should be declared a dangerous cult and outlawed. Tear down the mosques and deport the muslims who don't renounce Islam. Deport all the richards and taba$$hole traitors and take the oil. Without oil they go back to being a bunch of 6th century cavemen. richard and taba$$ will have the opportunity to enjoy the culture they so virulently defend.
I hope you know that a mosque is being built on Federal property, a Marine base, Quantico!!!!
They call it a prayer center! Call it what you will, this is going to be a big problem, Very Soon!!
Meanwhile the Protestants are being shuffled around due to lack of room for them!
Interesting because of minority status on base! And mosque's are considered Muslim Holy property under Sharia (Sha-ree-ah) law!
WAKE THE F UP !!!
Call it what you will!
No matter how much you polish a Turd......it's still a Turd.....with a high shine!!!
Infidelsix, you are obviously a mindless moron who craves authorty and longs to be told what to do. It sounds like you would actually be much more comfortable living in one of those middle eastern countries and being told exactly how to act. This free country of ours here in America is just altogether way to free for your liking, isn't it?
Dumb Infidel, I already showed you a long list of mosques that have been burnt. Who do you think is doing that? Buddhists? And those left behind adherents are actually calling for the mass genocide of every person on the planet who is not a christian.
My point is that you are no different from the muslims rioting in the streets. You, just like them, are being played by your leaders so that you will hate. You are a tool, plain and simple, because you refuse to think. You've chosen a team and that's the only thing that matters to you.
My other point is that hating people so much that you become just like the people you hate, which is what you are doing, is the height of counterproductive idiocy. Islam is not the problem. The people who are using Islam as a tool are the problem. And those people are not all muslims, just a small percentage. When you simplify your denouncements to include all muslims, you are actually helping out the people who have been using Islam to bad purpose by lumping all the good and the bad together.
In every instance, your beliefs and statements are counterproductive to what you claim to actually believe, which to me, is the height of simple minded idiocy.
Tabasco said: Dumb Infidel, I already showed you a long list of mosques that have been burnt. Who do you think is doing that? Buddhists?
I think it is mostly rednecks, not your average god fearin christain, unless you have proof it was christians, coulda been jews or sihks or you.
I don't hate muslims, I hate Islam. I didn't learn to hate it from any of these leaders you keep talking about (who are you talking about?)
Again, mosques being burned by anonomous individuals as opposed to gangs of christains who just got out of a sermon from their priest telling them that muslims are pigs and infidels and it is every christians duty to kill them on site is a big difference sir retard.
Ignorance isn't the problem, it's ignorant people like you who are the problem.
And yes, I am different from the muslims rioting in the street because a) I'm not rioting in the street and b) I am expressing myself nonviolently on a friggin housing blog you PC infested mortard.
Dumb Infidel,
Posting on a blog is a form of communication, just as protesting in a street is. And you are saying stuff just as stupid as they are, and I quote:
"now start your m*thrf*n jihad you backward stone age f**ks so we can wipe you off the planet and sin in peace. Please, if you are a rabid pissed off muslim, take to the streets in amnerica with your violent bullshit so our rednecks can pick you off easier."
"Anyone who uses threats of violence to silence criticism deserves a nuke up their ass."
And if that weren't hypocritical enough, it's also very telling that if a mosque gets burnt down, you think it's just due to a silly redneck. But if a church gets burnt down, it's an entire religion that is to blame. And if a christian leader calls for the Rapture and the death of all non-christians and an end times war in the middle east in order to accomplish this, he's just a dipshit. But if a muslim leader calls for the extermination of Israel, he's a mortal threat to our entire society's existence.
Yeah, that's a real intellectually honest point of view you've got there, pal. Good work, I can see logic and reasoning have long since left the building that is your feeble hate filled mind.
Come on, we're all curious how the kum-ba-yah crowd will deal with Islam when it gets in their faces all close and personal.
They will all be cucumber salad.
No really, what would you do guys?It is a good question, because if you were in charge we would loose.
Convert? Hide? Die?
We may loose anyway.
And Keith bashes Bush equally Richard. Look at the Would you vote for them again?" thread previous.
"Come on, we're all curious how the kum-ba-yah crowd will deal with Islam when it gets in their faces all close and personal."
Oh my god are you all a bunch of whiny ass titty babies. Quit being so cowardly. If you are really afraid of America getting overrun by crazy muslims, you have a serious mental derangement and you need to grow the f up. What a bunch of fraidy cat toddlers you all are.
tabasco, christian leaders don't "call" for the rapture as there is no number listed, it will just happen (no one knows when apparently). Muslim clerics call for jihad and issue fatwas. boy, the more you can't make your point the more name calling you hurl at me. also, on the whole rapture thing, christians aren't calling for the death of non-christians, they just believe that they won't be saved by the mighty bearded one. you are the one with no logic and lame arguments, hence the name calling.
p.s. I love you!
also tabasco, what do you have against titties anyways, and no, I won't masturbate for you.
Also Tabasco, you seem to be the one whose afraid of America being overrun by right wing christian left behind zealots. you da hypocrite buddy boy. Actually, if you had to choose what would it be - christian or muslim? what belief would you rather live under. just curious.
Moderate Infidel,
Dude, come on. The rapture folk want the rapture to happen just as much as the crazy muslims want a jihad, because the rapture folk want it to happen during their lifetimes. They would much rather ascend to heaven while alive rather than roll the dice and hope it happens when they die.
The fact that you refuse to see the similiarities between the extremist elements of both religions just shows that you do not have any logical reasons for your hatred of muslims, you just hate them. It is most likely that you just hate them because they are different than you, which is a typical emotion for people who are abnormally insecure and stupid, people who then try to hide their insecurity and stupidity by exhibiting false confidence and bravado in the form of hatred of another group of people who are different from themselves.
I've only called you one name (prior to now zeroing in on your rampant insecurity), and that was an idiot.
Those other names were for the cowards like infidelwoman who apparently think muslim hordes are awaiting offshore to rape and pillage at a moment's notice.
Come to think of it, why would you think that post was directed at you when it was clearly directed at infidelwoman?
Hmmm....interesting....
Moderate Infidel,
Dude, come on. The rapture folk want the rapture to happen just as much as the crazy muslims want a jihad, because the rapture folk want it to happen during their lifetimes. They would much rather ascend to heaven while alive rather than roll the dice and hope it happens when they die.
The fact that you refuse to see the similiarities between the extremist elements of both religions just shows that you do not have any logical reasons for your hatred of muslims, you just hate them. It is most likely that you just hate them because they are different than you, which is a typical emotion for people who are abnormally insecure and stupid, people who then try to hide their insecurity and stupidity by exhibiting false confidence and bravado in the form of hatred of another group of people who are different from themselves.
I've only called you one name (prior to now zeroing in on your rampant insecurity), and that was an idiot.
Those other names were for the cowards like infidelwoman who apparently think muslim hordes are awaiting offshore to rape and pillage at a moment's notice.
Come to think of it, why would you think that post was directed at you when it was clearly directed at infidelwoman?
Hmmm....interesting....
Dumb Infidel,
I am afraid of neither and I would choose neither.
And I have nothing against titties, just cowards who still long for their mommy's titties.
tabsaco said: The fact that you refuse to see the similiarities between the extremist elements of both religions just shows that you do not have any logical reasons for your hatred of muslims, you just hate them.
Of course there are similarities, Islamic extremism just happens to be alot more violent at the time and I am talking about the present. Again, if you read my post you'd recall that I said I don't hate muslims, I hate Islam. matter of fact I hate most religions. I have logical reasons to hate Islam and I've stated them allready. I don't care if you call me names as I have called you names now too, but you did start it. no problem tho, I've been rude to others I disagree with before and I try to keep a lid on it but it's easy to do on a blog since it's anonymous. I'ts also why it's kind of fun to take extreme viewpoints to see what the reaction is going to be. My inflammatory words you quote out of context were to illustrate a point as I already explained somewhere on this labyrinth of a blog. I'ts all just good bloggin fun tho' or we'd be doing something else wouldn't we?
peace bro. shalom. 10-4 good buddy. amen.
tabasco, you obviously haven't seen my mommies titties!
Can I ?
sure, here you go anon. http://www.extremenaturals.com/main.htm?id=viperhold2
Allright, moderate infidel, I'll ease off on the name calling. And my regards to your momma's globes. Very blessed, she is.
President Ahmadinejad: The transcript
Brian Williams sits down with Iran's president for an exclusive interview
Updated: 8:01 p.m. ET Sept 19, 2006
NEW YORK - On Sept. 19 in New York, Brian Williams sat down with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for an exclusive interview. The conversation was conducted via a translator. This transcript has been cleaned up for readability.
Brian Williams: Mr. President, thank you so much. I was interested. You wanted to be able to gesture with your hands while you spoke. What else should Americans know about you as a person, sir?
Ahmadinejad: About me? I'm an individual amongst the many of the Iranian people.
Williams: You are traveling with your wife on this trip.
Ahmadinejad: Yes.
Williams: May we know anything about her?
Ahmadinejad: She is an Iranian woman. And just as I am an Iranian too.
Williams: All right.
Ahmadinejad: And she is my friend and my companion. And I am her companion.
Williams: Mr. President, you're here as a guest of the United Nations. Under the protection of the United States. What is your message to the American people?
Ahmadinejad: I have talked about this in the past. In the letter I sent to Mr. Bush, I also addressed the American people. We think that the American people are like our people. They're good people. They support peace, equality and brotherhood. They like to see the world in peace. We think that, together, nations can uphold the peace and justice around the world.
Williams: On that point, sir, you've expressed a desire to perhaps tour and see more of the United States. Do you think that day could ever come?
Ahmadinejad: It might.
Williams: Where would you like to go?
Ahmadinejad: I don't really know that if I am here it's possible to see different parts of America. Right now the time pressures are immense, and I, there's really no time.
Williams: Is there any city or attraction you've...
Ahmadinejad: No. It's the entire country... American people are good people.
Williams: The president of the United States, speaking to the United Nations today, said to the people of Iran, "The United States respects you." But he said, "Your government is using resources to fund terrorists. And pursue nuclear weapons." He said he looks forward to the day when America and Iran can be good friends. And close partners in the cause of peace. How do you react to the statement of the American president today?
Ahmadinejad: We have the same desire, to be together for the cause of world peace. But we have to — see what the impediments are. Is it Iranian forces that have occupied countries neighboring the United States, or is it American forces that are occupying countries neighboring Iran? If Mr. Bush is saying that he can (unintelligible) the distance between the Iranian nation and the Iranian government, he is wrong. I am a normal person. A very average, regular person in Iran. The nation decided that I become the head of the state. The nation and the government are one and single. And together, we share everything. But we too like to rise at a point where we can pursue the cause of world peace. But we have to remove the barrier. That's where the question lies.
Williams: And that is where the United States president would say, "Halt this uranium enrichment."
Ahmadinejad: I question the world peace. Is it peace by those who produce a third generation of nuclear bombs? Or those who seek peaceful nuclear technology for their power plants? We think that people who produce bombs can — the atomic bomb cannot, in fact, speak of supporting world peace. We all know that Iran's nuclear issue is an excuse. It's been 27 years now that we've faced the hostility of the U.S. administration in various forms. Let me tell you something: Before the revolution, the government in Iran was dependent on the United States. The U.S. administration (unintelligible) to say. We, the individual, was a dictator in the complete sense of the word. He suppressed people. He used guns to put down people's demonstrations. I was a student at the time. Many of my friends were imprisoned. Because of reading books. Because of expressing their opinions about social affairs. We produced 6 million barrels of oil then. Only 600,000 of which was used domestically. The rest was exported. But our country was poor. The urban areas as well as villages were in ruin. There was really no help. The cities were in poor condition. But the prisons were growing. And that's when our nation rose. To speak freedom. To seek free elections. And to have the right over its own fate.
It expected that the U.S. administration, who claims to support freedom and democracy, to support it. To support it. Or at least to remain silent. But from the day one, the U.S. government has been against our nation. Only one case, if I were to decide, was the support it gave to Saddam Hussein during the eight year war against Iran. Do you know what happened during that war? Over 200,000 Iranian people, young men, died. Hundreds of thousands more were injured. At the same time, we were able to protect our country. But the US government supported Saddam. Nonetheless, our nation was interested in having friendly relations with everyone. We were never an aggressor on any other nation's rights. And we never repressed the rights of anyone. There was a terrorist group inside Iran that, in fact, assassinated many of our authorities and officials. The president, the prime minister, the ministers. The head of the supreme court. Many members of parliament. Regular people. And America supported this group. The question is, why? We thought we might be able to have friendly relations with the United States. But the American government chose the wrong path. And a path which is still continuing.
Williams: You say you have never repressed the rights of anyone-- and you speak of the days when people were jailed for expressing opinions. Yet, during your authority, 100 newspapers have been closed --web loggers have been shut down. Western culture and music have been stopped from entering Iran. Arguably that is not freedom of expression.
Ahmadinejad: You need to separate work that is taken legally and one that is taken illegally. You must also see that thousands of newspapers have been opened. Thousands of new opportunities are created. In our country, the law matters and will — a law approved by a representative of the people. About three months ago, a newspaper associated with the government violated the law and was shut down. Although, it was the only really podium for our government, for the government's position. But it violated the law. So everybody is treated equally before the law. Do you truly believe that using American music is a sign of freedom?
Williams: I don't like all American music. But why not allow your people the same choice?
Ahmadinejad: But the problem of our people is not what you think it is. And this is the same mistake that the American government makes about Iran. I prefer really not going after the kind of things that you think may matter. Our people are very free. They have a direct — contact with the president. Regular people, everyone. They talk. And-they debate. And the president is among them. Everybody is together. And they decide together. Of course there are, you know, differences of taste and everywhere. We don't want people to be robots. Or to have a (UNINTEL) with beyond which they can't move.
Williams: But I think even our president expressed today America's quarrel is not with the Iranian people. It's with you.
Ahmadinejad: The war, who was it against? The Iranian government or the Iranian people? Against the Iranian nation. When (UNINTEL) son was occupied was it an act against the Iranian government or the Iranian nation? The bombardment of our cities by Saddam, was that an act against the government or the people? Who supported Saddam? Were these truly acts against the Iranian government? Iran has been under sanctions for 27 years. Even spare parts for aircrafts are denied to us. Is this against the government or an act against the people? Again, I'm saying, in Iran, the government and the nation are one. And I am the representative of the Iranian people. Certainly not as a judge, but as an elected official.
Williams: If your goal is dialogue with America, and the American president says, "It's OK, keep your nuclear programs and keep your homes warm. Stop enriching uranium toward weapons." How do you react?
Ahmadinejad: Who is the right judge for that? Any entity except the IAEA? Reports indicate that Iran has had no deviation. We have said on numerous occasions that our activities are for peaceful purposes. The agency's cameras videotape all the activities that we have. So I ask, did Iran build the atomic bomb and use it? Who are the ones who are testing the third generation of nuclear bombs? All bombs with micro-agents or chemical agents. You must know that, because of our beliefs and our religion, we're against such acts. We are against the atomic bomb. We believe bombs are used only to kill people. And we are against killing people.
Williams: You have large missiles with a long range. Why keep them in your arsenal if you don't someday hope to tip them with a nuclear weapon?
Ahmadinejad: So are you thinking of the possibility of a danger? Is that what you're speaking of?
Williams: I'm asking about your arsenal.
Ahmadinejad: Yes, we are powerful and strong in defending ourselves. But, again, I ask, who has the nuclear bomb and has used it before? Which one is a bigger danger? One that's trying to develop a fuel for peaceful purposes? Or the one that made a nuclear weapon? That's where my main point is. We think that the world should run with justice. Some governments cannot pursue an arsenal of nuclear weapons, but then prevent others from developing fuel for peaceful purposes thinking that there might be a future threat. And that's preventing them from developing the facilities that they need for peaceful nuclear development. We think that the nuclear issue is an excuse, just like previous excuses. We think that the American government is against development of Iran. Not a nuclear weapon, per se. Because, after all, there are other governments in our region that have nuclear weapons. But they're supported by the American government. So how do you respond to this contradiction?
Williams: I am not an employee of the state, of course.
Ahmadinejad: I'm not speaking of you, sir. I understand. For Bush.
Williams: Perhaps because we will not, in this conversation, reach a nuclear agreement. Let me ask you about the pope. What was your reaction to the pope's speech? And do you accept his apology?
Ahmadinejad: I talked about this yesterday. I think that the people who give political advice to the pope were not well informed. Because when we look at history, just look at the 20th century, for example. And the wars waged in that country. Over 100 million people were killed. Hundreds of million more were displaced. Who created those wars? Those who were killed exceed the number than than the individuals who were killed in previous centuries combined. Where does the first and second world wars occur? Who started it? Where did the Muslims start a war? Of course, we certainly believe that those who wage war are neither Muslim or Christian. Nor Jew. They really don't believe in any religion. Because all religion report peace and brotherhood. All support justice. I think if the pope had had a little more thorough historical examination of events, he would not have made those remarks. History is before our eyes. A hundred million dead just in the 20th century alone. By whom? Right now the wars that are around us in the world, who's behind them? Did you know, by any chance, that over 100 -- over a period of 110 years — the U.S. government went into 111 wars? Who were these people? Muslims? Christians? Jews? No, certainly not. I believe that these people don't believe in religion at all. Those who want to solve problems with war do not believe in the sayings of the prophet. Because the prophet, were to speak, for peace and justice.
Williams: Do you believe the pope is a decent man? And do you accept his words of apology?
Ahmadinejad: I think that he actually takes back his statement. And there is no problem. He should be careful that those who want war do not take advantage of his statements and use it for their own causes People in important positions should be careful about what they say. What he said may give an excuse to another group to start a war. Where the religion should support peace and brotherhood. Christ was a prophet for peace, as was Moses. And as was the prophet Muhammad.
Williams: Mr. President, this is not a matter of great concern, this next question, but we have gotten used to seeing you in the tan jacket with the zipper. Today, you are dressed differently. Is that jacket a symbol of your standing or upbringing in Iran?
Ahmadinejad: No. It depends on which one I'm more comfortable wearing. And it of course depends on my colleagues and friends, too. I knew that you were going to wear a suit, so I decided to wear this jacket.
Williams: Excellent. You are on the cover of Time magazine here in the United States and around the world. Inside, it says, "A Date with a Dangerous Mind." Why do you think they think you have a dangerous mind? Do you?
Ahmadinejad: You should hear what I have to say, and then be the judge of that. I think that if people have a hard time accepting the logic and fact, they should not actually accuse others. The picture is an attempt to darken my face a lot. I think it actually shows me much younger than what I am. The first page, the cover.
Williams: Oh, the cover?
Ahmadinejad: This one? The cover page. Oh, it's really…
Williams: You approve?
Ahmadinejad: …questionable. It's darkened me. And also much — it looks much younger than what I am.
Williams: The question on the cover is what war with Iran would look like. How do you think the discussion has been allowed to get that far, that we're discussing possible war between the U.S. and Iran?
Ahmadinejad: I think we need to ask this question from American — U.S. — politician. But please, let's accept that these questions are raised by only a group of politicians here. But do you really think that the document, the passage shows on this select group of 60 and their goal? I think they're very wrong in what they're doing. They're not moving forward with the developments around the world. The world has changed. Nations have — are awakened now. They want their rights. Equal rights. And fair one. The time for world empires has ended. The U.S. government thinks that it's still the period after World War II. That when they came out as a victor. And enjoyed special rights. And can rule therefore, over the rest of the world. I explicitly say that I am against the policies chosen by the U.S. government to run the world. Because these policies are moving the world towards war. I think that we need to resort to logic, not war. Why should we speak of war? What has happened? What's happened is that the Iranian nation wants to stand on it's feet. It doesn't want to be dependent. It wants to have it's own technology. It wants to develop. Why the U.S. government so against our people? They speak of war so easily, as if it's on their daily agenda. We never speak of war.
Williams: Because…
Ahmadinejad: We speak of peace, equality, rationality.
Williams: The fear of our President is that a nuclear weapon is on Iran's agenda.
Ahmadinejad: I've said before, he's not afraid of a nuclear weapon. There already is nuclear weapon in our region, held by groups, supported by the U.S. government. Is there discrimination here? Are we having a selective approach? We don't need weapons at all. We're strong enough to defend ourselves. And we support peace. And we support equality. We do not want to rule over other people's land. When repeated IAA reports indicate that there has been no deviation in Iran's pursuit of nuclear technology, then why should the U.S. government be so fearful? We think that the world is afraid of the policies being pursued by the U.S. government. Because they won't accept any at all. They're not a party to the MPT either. Why not? Well, why don't they sign the MPT? Why don't they destroy the nuclear arsenal they have? And then the world will be free. We abide by the regulations of the MPT. And we must remain transparent with our people and honest with our people.
Williams: There is something you said that upset and scared a lot of people. It upset a lot of Jews in the United States and around the world when you called the Holocaust a myth. There are people, some people I know who escaped Hitler's reign. There is research. There are scholars who can teach you about it. And yet, you've expressed doubt about the Holocaust. Why?
Ahmadinejad: I've answered three of your questions on this. You know that I belong to the university. I'm an academician by nature. I'm interested in having a scientific approach to all events. But we've chosen three questions. The first question was: In the first World War, over 60 — In the second World War, over 60 million people lost their lives. They were all human beings. Why is it that only a select group of those who were killed have become so prominent and important?
Williams: Because of the difference humankind draws between warfare and genocide.
Ahmadinejad: Do you think that the 60 million who lost their lives were all at the result of warfare alone? There were two million that were part of the military at the time, perhaps altogether, 50 million civilians with no roles in the war — Christians, Muslims. They were all killed. The second and more important question that I raised was, if this event happened, and if it is a historical event, then we should allow everyone to research it and study it. The more research and studies are done, the more we can become aware of the realities that happened. We still leave open to further studies absolute knowledge of science or math. Historical events are always subject to revisions, and reviews and studies. We're still revising our thoughts about what happened over thousands of years ago. Why is it that those who ask questions are persecuted? Why is every word so sensitivity or such prohibition on further studies on the subject? Where as we can openly question God, the prophet, concepts such as freedom and democracy? And the third question that I raised in this regard: if this happened, where did it happen? Did the Palestinian people have anything to do with it? Why should the Palestinians pay for it now? Five million displaced Palestinian people is what I'm talking about. Over 60 years of living under threat. Losing the lives of thousands of dear ones. And homes that are destroyed on a daily basis over people's heads. You might argue that the Jews have the right to have a government. We're not against that. But where? At a place where their people were — several people will vote for them, and where they can govern.
Williams: Yes, but…
Ahmadinejad: Not at the cost of displacing a whole nation. And occupying the whole territory.
Williams: Is that a change in your position that Israel should be wiped away? And second, would you ever be willing to sit down with Jews, with scholars, with survivors of Hitler's camps where six million died? Our American film director Stephen Spielberg is one of many collecting the stories of those still alive, who will tell you of the dead, and the program to kill the Jews in Germany and elsewhere.
Ahmadinejad: I feel as there is a feeling a feeling of a need to get the truth here. Among American politicians as well as some media here. The main question is if this happened in Europe, what is the fault of the Palestinian people? This is a problem we have today, the root cause of many of our problems, not what happened 60 years ago. The Palestinian people are — their lives are being destroyed today. There's a pretext of the Holocaust. Lands have been occupied, usurped. What is their fault? What are they to be blamed for? Are they not human beings? Do they have no rights? What role did they play in the Holocaust? Some attempt to sort of change the subject. From the first day I said, "Well, assuming that the Holocaust happened..." Then again, what does it have to do with the Palestinian people? Not at all. Nothing. Believe me, Palestinian people are human beings. They have feelings. They like to live in their own land, to have the right to self determination, to feel secure in their homes. So that small kids are not killed. So that women are not taken from their own homes, taken from their own home. What is the future of such measures?
Williams: If I was President Bush, sitting here across from you, what would you say to him? President to President, but more important, man to man?
Ahmadinejad: It would be really good if you were, actually here, instead of, I mean, replacing Mr. Bush. I think that the situation would have been better here, if you were Mr. Bush. I sent him a letter.
Williams: I'm aware of it.
Ahmadinejad: I raised some very serious issues. I really expressed my thoughts and beliefs. You know that I am teacher. I am interested in talks and in dialogue. I like to understand the truth. Facts. And in that letter, I raised very important subject. I invited him to peace, brotherhood and friendship. But we did not receive an answer. Do you think that I should say anything besides the things that I mentioned there? I, as man to another man, I would say, "We can truly love people. Human beings, all of them. Not a particular party, group or faction alone. Not a special investor or shareholder alone. Everyone. Believe me, children in Africa are human beings, too. They like to have peace, live in peace and live in comfort. They love their parents. And their parents love their children, wherever they live. But they see their children's lives being destroyed in front of their eyes. Because of poverty. While they live on wealth — their lands are very wealthy and resourceful.
Williams: And you talk about children. You and I are both fathers. Recently in your country, thousands of people have signed up to be part of suicide brigades. How would you feel if your own children chose to do such a thing?
Ahmadinejad: Well, what is your feeling about that? Think if America is attacked. What would you like your son to do? Do you want him to defend America or not? I think you would like your son to defend America. It's the same with our son. When you don't have arms, when you don't have power, what can you do? You will sacrifice yourself for your country. It's not a bad thing. Although we are against war. We hate it. The war was imposed on the Middle East. Just look at the scene. About 10,000 kilometers, you look around us. There are hundreds of forces and troops, hundreds of thousands of troops around us. Under the pretext of freedom and democracy. They don't value the people of the region. The people of the region know how to run their own affairs. It's regretful. This coming from a group that supported Saddam for eight years. Saddam was the biggest dictator in our region. Even today, they support countries that have had no elections whatsoever. But still they speak of creating democracy through war. Especially coming from outside. It's impossible to achieve.
Williams: Isn't the world a safer place without Saddam?
Ahmadinejad: It could have been. If you look at Iraq today, everybody was happy was Saddam was overthrown. People thought that the occupying forces would hand over the affairs of the country immediately to the people — at least as soon as possible. Not only did they not leave, but they also said that they plan to stay. They are building huge military bases, to stay. Since the overthrow of Saddam to this day, hundreds of thousands of civilians have been killed there. We think that this goes against the very rules of security. You know, we're very close with the people in Iraq. Many of our people are families and extended relatives. There have been a lot of inter-marriages. There's the deep relationship on an emotional level between our people and theirs. Even Saddam's war against Iran did nothing to damage these old ties. Because we've lived together for thousands of years. The entire Iranian nation sympathizes with every Iraqi individual that suffers as a result of the occupation. Whereas we know that according to international law, creating safety and security is the responsibility of the occupying force. Iraqi authorities say that many of the tensions and the insecurity in the country is as a result of the occupation and occupying forces. Why should this be the case? It could have been much better. Saddam's removal could have been a very good beginning for the American government. To strengthen it's friendship ties with the nations of the region. Everybody was happy in the beginning. But today, the conditions in the region have changed. Anti-American sentiment, hatred towards the American government has increased on a daily basis. Why is this the case?
Williams: Hence...
Ahmadinejad: It could have been different.
Williams: Hence...
Ahmadinejad: We are not happy with what we see there.
Williams: Some of the fighters are trained and funded by your country, shooting at the American soldiers.
Ahmadinejad: This is the claim the U.S. government makes. But there's no evidence. Security in Iraq has the worst impact on Iran. Because we're neighbors. We have very close ties with Iraqi government and Iraqi people. We like to see a powerful Iraqi government. A powerful and secure government in Iraq will benefit Iran. And will benefit the entire region. Because the government, the parliament, the people of Iraq all have close relations with our nation. They're our friends.
Williams: And yet, I have stood on the helmets of Iranian soldiers, which are now used as pavement on Saddam's old parade grounds. I think that also speaks to the bitterness on and off, over the years between the two nations.
Ahmadinejad: Undoubtedly, Saddam hated us. But not the Iraqi people. Millions of people from Iran travel to Iraq on a yearly basis. Kurd, Sunni and Shias were all friends. The Iraqi president is an old friend of mine. The head of the state, the prime minister, is a very close friend of mine, too. And the head of their parliament, the parliament speaker, is a good friend of mine, too. So, we're friends.
Williams: Thank you.
The Crusades: unprovoked Western aggression? How, in fact, Muslims armies overran the predominantly Christian Middle East, then drove deep into Europe long before any Crusade was even contemplated -- and did so in obedience to core teachings of the Islamic faith
How the much-ballyhooed (and grossly exaggerated) "Golden Age" of Islamic culture was largely inspired by non-Muslims
Muhammed: the "Perfect Man"? That's how Muslims regard him. Details about his licentiousness, cruelty, and ruthless ambition that make him a dangerous role model
Muhammad as "Prophet": how he received convenient "revelations" that justified his insatiable lusts and numerous marriages -- including one to a 9-year-old girl
How Muhammad ordered -- and rejoiced in -- the assassinations of his enemies. How he lied and broke treaties as a matter of course
Muhammad vs. Jesus: proof that Christianity teaches peace and Islam violence -- and that there is nothing in the Bible that rivals the Qur'an's exhortations to warfare
The stifling effect Islam has on science and free inquiry, accounting for its failure to prosper -- and hence for its murderous envy of the West
The ghastly lure of Islam's X-rated Paradise for suicide bombers and jihad terrorists
Islamic law: how it institutionalizes oppression of Christians, Jews, and other non-Muslims in Islamic societies
How the Qur'an and Islamic law treat women as nothing more or less than possessions of men
Islam's only overarching moral principle: "if it's good for Islam, it's right"
Why Western leaders who think non-Muslims can "win hearts and minds" among Islamic jihadists are naïve
Why modern-day jihad warriors despise democracy and will do all they can to resist it
Filmmaker Theo van Gogh: murdered on an Amsterdam street in broad daylight for offending Muslims -- and other signs that violent Islamic intimidation has come to the West
Despite the ultimate defeat in the Middle East, the Crusaders were successful in regaining the Iberian Peninsula permanently and slowed down the military expansion of Islam.
The successful international coordination of Crusading forces from different countries, and the reduction (not cessation) in fighting between Christian monarchs that the crusading ideal encouraged, allowed Christian Europe to remain strong in the face of Muslim military expansionism. It is therefore likely that a considerable part of modern Christian Europe (particularly Spain, Portugal, and the Balkans) would be Muslim today had the Crusades not occured, and it is furthermore possible that Christianity might have been largely replaced by Islam throughout Europe.
Secular historians place Islam's beginnings during the late 7th century in Arabia. Under the leadership of Muhammad and his successors, Islam rapidly spread by religious conversion and military conquest.
thats 7 centuries after christianity began and judaism was around much longer. The middle east does not belong to Islam. Islam is an abberation and a cancer that need to be eradicated.
Article 2 need not be read as an absolute bar to Arnold or another naturalized citizen, or anybody else from being elected President. It doean't say "Only Natural born Americans are eligible..." FULL STOP. The first two clauses are qualified by the time of adoption clause that follows, rendering the limitations ambiguous and arguably meaningless in the 21st Century.
The limitation could be found to violate Equal Opportunity/Equal Protection, without a compelling interest to do so, here in the 21st Century. Blacks are now recognized as full persons under the law, women can vote, and lots of things have changed since 1783.
A good lawyer could make a good argument against this time-honored prohibition. It's not a slam-dunk, but obviously the Article's construction and wording are subject to interpretation and scrutiny. It's not like a constitutional amendment is a prima facie necessity.
Any attorneys out there?
Guys, i am really sorry i missed all the fun.
i was busy suckling.
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