Islamic cult members with boxcutters. Nuff said.

September 11, 2006

Islamic cult members with boxcutters. Nuff said.

107 comments:

Anonymous said...: Google Video:
Search: Loose Change
and watch the truth!!; September 11, 2006 5:12 PM
Anonymous said...: gee, that does appear to be a jet hitting the tower, filmed by hundreds of different people as it happened guess richard and the other 9/11 quacks think the goverment got into the cameras of thousands of citizens and superimposed that jet picture - idiots

kill em all i say and fast!; September 11, 2006 5:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Nuff said with all this media and politician hand-wringing over the 9/11 5 yr anniversary.
Its reached a level that borders on necrophilia and similar to slowing down to stare at a car wreck with fatalities. Deep down, you're glad it wasn't you as you adjust the A/C, pick the zit on your face,take of sip of your Starbucks, turn up the volume on the stereo and smugly drive away.
Brutal truth is, if one of your loved ones was not a victim on 9/11, the impact over the last 5 years to Americans has been negligible, besides being "inconvenienced" at the airport. Except of course the results of the Fed dropping rates and pumping housing to ridiculous price levels.
In the big picture, its one of the prices of having an American empire.; September 11, 2006 5:30 PM
Anonymous said...: wanna know the truth? loose change. end of conversation.; September 11, 2006 5:34 PM
Anonymous said...: how does a half ass pilot trained on a cesna know how to disconect a jets transponder AND fly hundreds of miles to find the pentagon or WTC w/ a map?; September 11, 2006 5:36 PM
Anonymous said...: where do 100 tons of aluminum, cloth and leather seats, titanum engine blades, bone and body parts go in shanksville?

so your saying EVERYTHING vaporized? EVERYTHING!; September 11, 2006 5:37 PM
Anonymous said...: how does a concrete and steel structure collapse upon itself in a hydro-carbon fire yet a paper passport survive?; September 11, 2006 5:39 PM
Anonymous said...: do we really have to celebrate 9/11 every flipping year? zzzz... get over it, it happened.

now let's go kill arabs!; September 11, 2006 5:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Let's see, 2 billion muslims in the world, 20 of them attacked us armed with boxcutters...so...we better kill the other 1,999,999,980 of em!; September 11, 2006 5:54 PM
Anonymous said...: How can ordinarily rational people believe in all manner of conspiracy theories and ignore the obvious? Because the obvious is so simple that it scares the shit out of people. It is more comforting to believe in a vast conspiracy controlled by a few super-human elites than to believe we were attacked by a bunch of pissed off radical Islamic mercenaries with a simple horrible plan. Conspiracy theories have life because there are real conspiracies to control us (religion, race, class etc.) and to control resources. The existence of real and obvious conspiracies does not equate to the existence of all conspiracies. Occam's razor should be considered before believing everything an ex narcotics cop from LA puts on his website. The way the conspiracy crowd hangs on every word Michael Ruppert says you'd think the guy was a super genius. He's just another schmuck selling shit on the internet.; September 11, 2006 6:03 PM
Anonymous said...: Any thoughts on the world's opinion that because of falling oil prices there will be no inflation and gold is now a strong sell?; September 11, 2006 6:04 PM
Anonymous said...: that's a plane and anyone who says its not is a fool

it was also a godsend for bush & co, as if they allowed it

now there's your conspiracy; September 11, 2006 6:09 PM
Anonymous said...: "Let's see, 2 billion muslims in the world, 20 of them attacked us armed with boxcutters"

My response is to stop making it an issue of getting back at people of colour. It's not about race as NOI fellows like Farrakhan would like to imply.

It's a counterresponse to Islam, as a medieval culture of desert tribes. All the recent terrorist attacks in India, Bali, Spain, London, etc were due to the culture of Islam. The moderates within the Islamic community are more or less like Sufis than regular Sunnis or Shiites. They incorporate teachings from Buddhistic/spiritual practices than a stiff lipped Caliphate/Mullah type of thinking (see Bashir in Indonesia as an example) which is highly medieval and oriented towards terrorism.; September 11, 2006 6:31 PM
Anonymous said...: 3 words

Muslim Internment camps; September 11, 2006 6:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Let's see, 2 billion christians in the world, 2 of them attacked us with a truck full of explosive fertilizer, 1 of them attacked us with a pipe bomb, and 72 of them were gonna attack us but instead burnt down their own compound...so...what should we do to the other 1,999,999,925 of em? I'm confused.; September 11, 2006 6:46 PM
Anonymous said...: Genius Tabasco sez sarcastically "Let's see, 2 billion muslims in the world, 20 of them attacked us armed with boxcutters...so...we better kill the other 1,999,999,980 of em!"

Since Islam is a culture of peace and toleration, I have a better idea. Let's start a rumor that Tabasco Jenkins is a good friend of Salman Rushdie. In fact it was Tobasco who inspired The Satanic Verses. That should solve his problems; September 11, 2006 6:57 PM
Anonymous said...: 9/11 = Osama Bin Laden
Osama Bin Laden = Al-Qaeda
Al-Qaeda = Iraqi Intel (Prague)
Iraqi Intel = Saddam Hussein
Saddam Hussein = 9/11

Why do you hate our Freedom?
President Cheney spelled it right out for us.
You can’t be a Democrat and still be a Christian
You can’t be a Democrat and still be a Patriot.

If you don’t elect Christians you’re legislating Sin.
Democrats Win = Terrorists win
Democratic Party = Al-Qaeda Party
What part of this don’t you understand?

We will not leave Iraq under this Administration.
We are at war. Sacrifices must be made. (NO LIQUIDS!); September 11, 2006 7:02 PM
Anonymous said...: "3 words: Muslim Internment camps"

Again, you make it another race/class issue instead of a culture issue.

Just imagine the outrage of interning a million African-Americans? How would a national KKK move like that work in America? It would make America the laughing stock of the developed world and the neo-Apartheid regime of the 21st century. MLK would be spinning in his grave.

What you need is the NAACP, South Asians, Pacific Islanders, Africans, Mideasterners forming an organization against the advancement of Islamic ideas within minority communities. That's what you need. And once all the ethnic minorities are together against the advancement of the culture of Islam, then you've taken away the race card from the arsenal of the enemy. Right now, they're hiding behind it.; September 11, 2006 7:04 PM
Miss Goldbug said...: Any thoughts on the world's opinion that because of falling oil prices there will be no inflation and gold is now a strong sell?

Right now, I think oil and gold prices are being manipulated like crazy. Why all of a sudden is there a supply of oil that brought down gas prices? Did some barrels come out of hiding? Did we all really reduced consumption that much to make this kind of a difference affecting the oil price?

And what about gold? It should be going up, not down - what the heck is going on??

I can only say its beyond anyones control to guess why things are not as predictable as they should be.; September 11, 2006 7:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Anon September 11, 2006 5:39:09 asks

how does a concrete and steel structure collapse upon itself in a hydro-carbon fire yet a paper passport survive?

That's easy: the passport owner wanted to send a message and leave his identity behind. Right before the jet hit the tower, he rolled down the window and threw his passport out. You want proof? go to loose change, watch the video. do you see that flash of light right before the plane hit the tower? Well, that's the reflection of the sun on the window the guy rolled down. Pretty slick if you ask me.; September 11, 2006 7:15 PM
Anonymous said...: "Let's see, 2 billion christians in the world, 2 of them attacked us with a truck full of explosive fertilizer, 1 of them attacked us with a pipe bomb, and 72 of them were gonna attack us but instead burnt down their own compound"

Hmm... I'm waiting for these Christians to attack Spain, Bali, Russia, London, Thailand, Phillipines, and India? Hey, wait a minute, no worldwide attacks from Christian cults. What's going on here? Where's Tim McVeigh and Jim Jones when you need them? Pretty lame when the best that Christian cults can do is to pass out pamphlets and trash talk disbelievers.; September 11, 2006 7:25 PM
Roccman said...: You are a moron Keith.

Nuff said.; September 11, 2006 7:26 PM
Bill said...: The other night i was out sitting at a bar, and guess who walked in unannounced? JFK!. So he calmly walked over and sat next to me and Elvis. while Elvis and I were bullshitting about 9-11, Jim Morrison came out of the bathroom and told JFK he was sitting in his seat. To which point JFK said "I have to sit here the Lock Ness Monster is taking up the other end of the hole bar"...So after Big Foot came over to calm things down Jimmy Hendricks started jamming and the place was full of Aliens, man what a night.

Anyway I do belive our goverment was involved..Clinton right on to the Bush Cabol.; September 11, 2006 7:27 PM
InfidelSix said...: Yeah the whole thing is a lie. THere were no terrorists, there were no planes, there were no passengers, there were no buildings, there's no such thing as the world trade center, it never existed, there is no Osama Bin Laden, He never took credit for the attacks that never occurred, Islam is a religion of piece.; September 11, 2006 7:31 PM
Anonymous said...: "That's what you need. And once all the ethnic minorities are together against the advancement of the culture of Islam, then you've taken away the race card from the arsenal of the enemy."

The key to winning the war on terror!

Islam = Arabic cultural colonialism

Blacks, Indians, Malaysians, are second class citizens under Islam. Only white Muslims like some Chechens and some fair-skinned Iranians are equal in the eyes of this religion that claims no racism. It's the whole notion that some Arabs are more equal than others. King Abdullah of Saudi is practically a white man w/ a big nose and he thinks he's better than all the muslims below him. Open your eyes peoples, this is basically an Arabic 'Jim Crow' m.o. of a faith.; September 11, 2006 7:40 PM
Anonymous said...: how does a concrete and steel structure collapse upon itself in a hydro-carbon fire yet a paper passport survive?

D'oh! You remember that plane hitting? What spewed out? Debris. Lots of it. All over the place.

Example: The passport was not inside the tower. It was ejected onto the street a millisecond after the plane hit.

And after all, random crap does happen. In a huge chaotic mess with thousands of people, you're going to get some unusual coincidence.

The fires are the reason that the other 99% or whatever percent of the passports were not preserved.

9/11 was no Bush conspiracy. The actual Bush/Cheney conspiracy is in front of your eyes, and has been completely exposed: they were looking for any excuse to wax Saddam. They twisted facts and arms and failed to committ troops to Afghanistan because they ordered them to prepare for Iraq. Documented facts, all.

conclusive reason why 9/11 was as everybody says, even assuming maximum Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld wickedness:
If They wanted 9/11 to be a "false flag" operation, they would have blown up the towers with bombs and blamed it on Saddam's secret service.
And they would have blown up Disney World instead of the Pentagon.; September 11, 2006 7:43 PM
Anonymous said...: how does a half ass pilot trained on a cesna know how to disconect a jets transponder AND fly hundreds of miles to find the pentagon or WTC w/ a map?

1) they didn't train only on a Cessna

2) Take off and landing are the hard parts. The captain did the take-off and they didn't need to land.

3) they didn't give a crap about air traffic control or protocol or safety so learning all that hard stuff was irrelevant.

4) they brought GPS equipment on board for navigation

5) it's not very hard to crash into the largest skyscraper in New York.

You fly low and straight into Manhattan. The skyscraper comes up on you automatically.; September 11, 2006 7:47 PM
Anonymous said...: Looses Change is full of the lowest IQ's on this planet.; September 11, 2006 7:48 PM
Anonymous said...: the plane operation was in place, mossad agents informed the bush cabal.

they were looking for a NEW PEAL HARBOR, as signed off in the new american century project by rumi, cheny,wolfie.

they had thermite planted in the towers prior to the date and waited. just by total coincidence FEMA was in NY for a drill AND a carrier group was off NY.; September 11, 2006 8:07 PM
Roccman said...: Keith is a moron.

Nuff said.; September 11, 2006 8:08 PM
Anonymous said...: So, ANON, your saying that a paper passport flys out of some guys :

1) shirt pocket
2) back pants pocket
3) zipped closed duffle bag

and survives the fires of HELL and lands on the streets of NY.

yeah.; September 11, 2006 8:09 PM
Anonymous said...: INSIDE JOB!!; September 11, 2006 8:09 PM
Anonymous said...: why does BUSH want a national ID card with RFID chips for all citizens rather than closing the border?

why does Bush want to track us citizens rather than close the border or cancel all new visa?; September 11, 2006 8:11 PM
Anonymous said...: To paraphrase Kind-of-Lezzie Rice, 9/11 represents the "birth pangs of a new
America." An America more vicious than ever before. Instead of examining how its violent foreign policy in the Middle East incited blowback,
America slipped its leash and revealed to the whole world what a mad dog it really is. Happy Anniversay, America! Many happy returns!; September 11, 2006 8:13 PM
Anonymous said...: Loose change? should be called "Loose Marbles".; September 11, 2006 8:16 PM
Anonymous said...: Anon 6:57:34 PM,
Go ahead, I'm sure they would be real interested in me, just like they were in Salman, who last I heard was roaming around quite free and safe. And I haven't even written a book about them. All I did was suggest sarcastically that killing them all is a rather unnecessary tactic. So, consequently, I expect in no time flat for a crowd of angry muslims to come riding up to my door atop arabian horses and cut my head off with a boxcutter. Because I am frightened....real frightened....please, somebody save me. Anon 6:57:34 PM, will you?; September 11, 2006 8:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Anon 7:25:30 PM,
The point, you dolt, is that the people who carried out these attacks were first and foremost terrorists, wheter it be Osama Bin Laden or Timothy McVeigh or Abu Sayyaf or Eric Rudolph. They are cowardly criminals and not representative of entire religions. Good lord.; September 11, 2006 8:24 PM
Roccman said...: "The point, you dolt, is that the people who carried out these attacks were first and foremost terrorists,"

Nope ... RC controlled ...

BTW

Keith you are a moron.

Nuff said.; September 11, 2006 8:28 PM
Anonymous said...: By the way, you nutjobs that think 9/11 was an inside job are just as crazy as the whackos who hijacked those planes. I mean, there is video of the damn planes hitting the buildings and they sure as damn hell were airliners. And for those that try to claim that the towers were subsequently imploded by the government after the planes hit, why on earth would they do that? You think the government thought that a couple hijacked airliners hitting buildings wouldn't be sufficient to scare the country, that they had to make sure the buildings came down, too? Come on, think about that for a second, you whackos. It was Al Qaeda hijackers, clear and simple. The proper response was 1)Lock airliner cockpit doors in the future, and 2)Hunt down and capture/kill Osama Bin Laden and the rest of the network that helped with the attacks. 1) Check, taken care of. 2) Almost, but then we got distracted.; September 11, 2006 8:40 PM
Anonymous said...: Titanium burns in air and you can have engine fires in jet engines where the titanium burns. All it takes is two pieces of titanium rubbing together at 500 C and at 10 times atmospheric pressure. This is a real problem and there is an active search for titanium alloys that do not burn under these conditions.

100 tons of plane disappearing into 600,000 tons of building is not surprising. Plus, the plane was pulverized first and then burned for about an hour.

I've never read of anyone who made the connection, but the Columbine killers had a fantasy about crashing a 747 into Manhattan, so it's not hard to imagine using a plane as a missle, especially if you lust for the death of others and your own. Nihilism meets islamism.

Anyone remember Beslan?; September 11, 2006 8:47 PM
blogger said...: I'm still waiting for some 9/11 conspiracy buff to tell me how the images of jumbo jet planes got put into so many videocameras and cameras; September 11, 2006 8:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Mamboni:

The stumps of the massive steel components revealed an angle not of 45 degree but 33.3 degree which is keeping with Islam practice. Also they shear in the direction of Mecca, so yes there was on ground pre-crash involvement which was purpose of initial blast in towers parking garage 8 yrs earlier. This first attempt was diversion so Jihad subcontractors could come in and place explosives to shear steel columns which were set off by timing device after airplane crash into tower.

Allah is Great!; September 11, 2006 9:11 PM
Anonymous said...: how does a half ass pilot trained on a cesna know how to disconect a jets transponder AND fly hundreds of miles to find the pentagon or WTC w/ a map?

Dumbass. Both flights out of Boston flew west till they saw the Hudson river, then south till they saw NYC. Good Gawd this planet is full of TARDS; September 11, 2006 9:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Lauravella,

Gold and oil are going down just as they should in a deflation; September 11, 2006 9:15 PM
Anonymous said...: The 9/ll conspiracy theorists are as insane today as they were a week ago, before that video of terrorists talking about 9/11. The third scyscrapter to fall did so because of fire, as testified to by dozens of fireman on the scene before, during, and after it happened.

To use demolition methods to bring down skyscrapers would take hundreds and hundred of technicians weeks and weeks of work planting explosives, sawing through support beams, etc., which has to be done with any demolition. In buildings as large as those destroyed on 9/11, the preparations would have taken months, involving tens of thousands of man hours, and could not possibly have been hidden from anyone. Moreover, when support beams are cut to enable a demolition, the building becomes structually unsound, and could not be used for months by hundreds of thousands of workers and visitors. It would wobble, creak, and give every indication of getting ready to fall.

The man most responsible for pushing the conspiracy theory is a Christian "theologian" (read crackpot) with no training in engineering, demolition, or anything else other than bible-thumbing, and superstition. But, the young guys pushing the trashy Loose Change video are simply trying to make a fortune before the rug gets pulled out. They should all be in jail for slander, libel, and fear-mongering. Only the most unevolved fools on Earth think they can push nonsense like this without consequences. The damage they've done cannot be measured. They have actually destroyed lives and reputations for nonething more than 5 minutes of fame and a soon to be exhausted pile of money.

truth_about_911 said...

"Google Video:
Search: Loose Change
and watch the truth!! "

"truth-about-911" uou have no concept of truth. This is a commercial piece of trash concocted for suckers like yourself. Either that, or you are one of frauds making money of this laughable video.; September 11, 2006 9:19 PM
Anonymous said...: "1) shirt pocket
2) back pants pocket
3) zipped closed duffle bag

and survives the fires of HELL and lands on the streets of NY."

Yes, certainly. The initial explosion dispersed things all over the place. Random chance.

Much of the contents were of course burned, but some wasn't. You see the stuff that wasn't.

When TWA 800 blew up (and the 747 over Lockerbie) there was plenty of baggage and books and papers which survived mostly unharmed.

When the Challenger blew up---and that was riding an enormous tank of freaking liquid oxygen & hydrogen which exploded---there was plenty which survived the explosion intact without being burned. In fact the astronauts were alive until they hit the water.

People see "chemicals" and things as if that is any evidence of artificial demolition. And as artificial demolition it was pretty piss poor.

And if they had artificial demolition, WTF is up with the planes? And the videos of Bin Laden et al chilling with the hijackers before 9/11?

Remember: Bush wanted Saddam, not Osama. If they wanted to fake something, they'd blow it up with bombs (no airplanes) and blame it all on Saddam.; September 11, 2006 9:38 PM
Roccman said...: "I'm still waiting for some 9/11 conspiracy buff to tell me how the images of jumbo jet planes got put into so many videocameras and cameras"

This is why you are a moron Keith. No one is debating whether planes hit the WTC towers - they did.

A plane did not hit the pentagon.

Why Keith do you keep going back to believing people who don't buy the official report also believe planes were not involved.

What you miss Keith is that the planes hitting the towers in akin to a pencil going through a screen door. A small hole, but the door still remains standing.

You need to do the research Keith.

And for you to quib with me regarding threadjacking and then start this thread...

Guess you have been assimilated.

Freak'n moron...there really is no other word for you.; September 11, 2006 9:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Richard, if the government really decided to hit the Pentagon with a missile or someything else besides a hijacked airliner as you claim, why did they do that? Was the fact that 2 hijacked planes hit the WTC not going to be enough to accomplish their goals? What could they have possibly gained by adding another attack on the Pentagon?; September 11, 2006 10:22 PM
Roccman said...: Oh the theories abound...

who knows why the pentagon - maybe test out the new (ONLY) re-enforced side of the building...

That is not the point- the point is the way the gov explains these events flies in the face of the LAWS OF NATURE - namely gravity - and that the ONLY way these buildings collapsed as they did that is consistent with law of cause and effect is with the help of bombs.

Why did they not blow up a cargo container in LA with a dirty bomb...or poison water in a treatment facility in Phx.

Who knows? Not realy relevant.

Once again the facts fly in the face of reality. It is much harder to accept the official report as truth then any of the alternatives us "crazies" believe.

Riddle me this batmen...why in the past 2 - 3 weeks are Bush and Cabal throwing rhetoric down suggesting if people like me who do not believe in the official 9-11 report are Nazis?

Know why?? - they are scared and know that us crazies who need "help"...are closing in on the bastards. They are desperate and know their end is nigh.

Only a matter of time my friend before u too will see the light.

Your governement killed 2,749 people in cold blood 5 years ago to create a war policy to secure the last remaining oil reserves in the world. That is the truth.; September 11, 2006 10:35 PM
Anonymous said...: Seriously, Keith, you should shut this thread down. Some of these people scare the living sh-t out of me, almost as much as fundamentalist Muslims. These conspiracy theories are just ridiculous.

And yes, I've watched all your crazy internet movies, done the "research" and have concluded that you're all wackjobs.; September 11, 2006 10:39 PM
Roccman said...: Yeah Keith - shut this thread down. ANONS can't handle the truth.

That's why their ANONS!!!; September 11, 2006 10:46 PM
Anonymous said...: "first and foremost terrorists, wheter it be Osama Bin Laden or Timothy McVeigh or Abu Sayyaf or Eric Rudolph. They are cowardly criminals and not representative of entire religions."

First of all, yes they were terrorists and two, what aspect of dying for a so-called noble cause (according to a Mullah) is cowardly? If anything, they were acting like good Kamakazie pilots.

Now, if we look at a moderate Islamic nation, Indonesia, you'll see that the secular authorities released the cleric, Bashir, who actively provides training/cover to terrorists (see Jemaah Islamiyah) who did the Bali bombings. In essence, the moderate faction of Islam essentially turns a blind eye towards terrorism because they know that it's the nature of the teachings at Mosque (i.e. Israel, America, India, and Russia are co-conspirators againsts Muslims worldwide) and it's best to keep quiet than to be put in a counterstrike situation. This is how the Sicilian govt deals with the Mafia; they turn a blind eye because they know that many members of its divisions are either members or loosely affiliated. If anything, the Mafia is safe and well guarded in Sicily. Islam, as a culture, does the same thing for terrorists who're a part of the whole fantasy USA-Israel-India-Russia axis against Arabic colonialism.

Christianity, in contrast, has no equivalent worldview where members feel compelled to silently support Tim McVeigh w/o repercussion.; September 11, 2006 10:46 PM
Anonymous said...: "Christianity, in contrast, has no equivalent worldview where members feel compelled to silently support Tim McVeigh w/o repercussion."

The man was executed, in a Christian majority nation whereas Bashir was released in a Muslim one.; September 11, 2006 10:50 PM
Anonymous said...: "Looses Change is full of the lowest IQ's on this planet."

Hahahaha.. It's "Loose Change" not "Looses Change" although you might do so if you're on a roller coaster. Your IQ statement might be more convincing if you spelled it right! (Loose Change version 2 can be reviewed at Google video or YouTube).

By the way, there is interesting reading at http://www.st911.org (Scholars for 911 Truth) where you'll find a number of reasons why we should question what really contributed to the towers falling down and the SUICIDE of WTC building 7. You may have forgotten, building 7 fell on its own accord having not been hit by a plane, and suffering insufficient damage to bring it down without assistance.

By the way, do any of you know what that apparent lump is on the right side of the fuselage of the jet in the photo above?; September 11, 2006 10:57 PM
Roccman said...: Keith is a moron.

Nuff said.; September 11, 2006 11:08 PM
Miss Goldbug said...: Richard the A$$wipe said:"A plane did not hit the pentagon.

Why Keith do you keep going back to believing people who don't buy the official report also believe planes were not involved.

What you miss Keith is that the planes hitting the towers in akin to a pencil going through a screen door. A small hole, but the door still remains standing.

You need to do the research Keith.

And for you to quib with me regarding threadjacking and then start this thread...

Guess you have been assimilated.

Freak'n moron...there really is no other word for you".

Oh Richard, Richard Richard, what are we going to do with you?

Planes did not hit the Pentagon? So the plane that was captured on camera was a fake?

And I guess 50 thousands gallons of pure jet fuel doesnt ignite and explode like gasoline? Metal, steel and glass doesnt melt and collapse on its own weight?

You are truely a numscull Richard.; September 11, 2006 11:09 PM
Anonymous said...: 9/11, how lucky for the Chain gang. We get to steal Iraqi oil because of this. Kick their ass and steal their gas!!; September 11, 2006 11:14 PM
Anonymous said...: Bushco could fvck up a wet dream. I sure hope Halliburton can steal all the oil before the war on terror ends.; September 11, 2006 11:16 PM
Anonymous said...: Idiots! It was the Jews!; September 11, 2006 11:18 PM
Anonymous said...: If I'd been born to a whore like Osama bin Laden's momma, I'd be pissed off too!; September 11, 2006 11:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Anon 11:18:56 PM,

Of course it was the Jews! Dumba$$!!; September 11, 2006 11:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Anon 11:18:56 PM,

Of course it was the Jews! Dumba$$!!; September 11, 2006 11:20 PM
Anonymous said...: But, that doesn't change the fact that those buildings would never have disintegrated into their own footprint without the help of skillfully placed superthermite and thermate.

The buildings didn't collapse into their own footprint exactly, there was quite a bit of collateral damage.

Besides, buildings do tend to collapse in the general direction of DOWN. That's because that's where gravity is pointing. They don't collapse like in the movies with spectacular outward blowups; in real life there is nothing to give them angular momentum.

'controlled demolition' and uncontrolled structural failure look pretty much the same from the outside.

The many academics who have brought these findings to the public view have nothing to gain but scorn, professional censor and possible harm.

The 'many' do not include mainstream structural engineers. The one guy Jones at U.Utah can be wrong. Yes, I am a professional physicist too.

The whole thing makes absolutely no sense if you think people used explosives to blow something up---after terrorists hit it with planes. How would you know your control system for the explosives wouldn't be wrecked by the plane crash? (You wouldn't).

And what about the Pentagon? Were "They" going to plant bombs in their own military HQ? Obviously not.

There are plenty of much cleaner ways for an insider to do things: put some diplomatic freight on board and blow up planes in mid-air like Ramzi Yousouf, blame it on Saddam. You get all the blame, a reason to go to war with Iraq, and the Pentagon is still there and you don't have the economic damage from blowing up WTC.; September 11, 2006 11:22 PM
Anonymous said...: I shur hope we get to take all their gas before democracy breaks out in Iraq! Long live the Shah of Iran! He is still alive, isn't he?; September 11, 2006 11:24 PM
Anonymous said...: Anon 11:22:25 PM,

You are a dumba$$!!!; September 11, 2006 11:25 PM
Bill said...: My thing is and this will be my last comment on this subject.

It amazes me that with all the conspiracy talk, people actually give this administration credit for pulling something like this off...I mean are they really that smart?

Also stop acting like a bunch of teenages at a high school jerk off convention, i mean come on people.

An opinion is like an asshole everyone has one.; September 11, 2006 11:31 PM
Anonymous said...: ok anon: you say:
Much of the contents were of course burned, but some wasn't. You see the stuff that wasn't.

When TWA 800 blew up (and the 747 over Lockerbie) there was plenty of baggage and books and papers which survived mostly unharmed.

now explain Shanksville- nothing was there!!!!!; September 11, 2006 11:35 PM
Roccman said...: Hey ANONs -

Marvin Bush was head of security at the WTC Complex prior to 9-11.

Do you believe me?; September 11, 2006 11:39 PM
Anonymous said...: anon said:

And what about the Pentagon? Were "They" going to plant bombs in their own military HQ? Obviously not.

THATS the prefect ruse!!; September 11, 2006 11:39 PM
Roccman said...: Hey ANONs - several million dollars in PUT options were executed for AA and UA - record level put options weeks prior to 9-11.

In fact - one option for $1.5 million has never been claimed.

Do you believe me?; September 11, 2006 11:41 PM
Roccman said...: Hey ANONs - a 4 TON steel girder was found 600 feet from the WTC Complex.

Do you believe me?; September 11, 2006 11:41 PM
Roccman said...: Hey ANONs - WTC 7 fell at 5:20 in the PM - a 47 story tall structure - on 9-11. In about 8 seconds.

Do you believe me?; September 11, 2006 11:43 PM
Anonymous said...: When TWA 800 blew up (and the 747 over Lockerbie) there was plenty of baggage and books and papers which survived mostly unharmed.

now explain Shanksville- nothing was there!!!!!

The first two were explosions in mid air due to fuel and explosive igniting it. This will break up the plane and disperse pieces of it in all directions. The ones far from the explosion will be ripped off, but they will not be directly affected by it.

When a plane augers into the ground that is a different story because every single piece of it was going at 300-400 mph, and so every part of it was subjected to massive kinetic energy and forces. In that case, generally only the very strongest portions (or sometimes lightest ones which "bounce") survive, such as the shafts of the turbines or maybe the wheels. That's what you saw at the Pentagon too.

They are all consistent with the well known experience of aircraft disasters.; September 11, 2006 11:43 PM
Roccman said...: Hey ANONs a nearly 500 page Patriot Act was signed into law on October 25, 2001 after only 6 weeks after the events. Did all state govs review and edit this document in 6 weeks time?; September 11, 2006 11:45 PM
Roccman said...: Hey Keith - you are a moron.

Nuff said.; September 11, 2006 11:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Yes, I believe you. All buildings with structural failure, whatever the cause, will fall straight down in about the speed you expect from gravity.

This is what the laws of physics say.

How would you expect otherwise?; September 11, 2006 11:45 PM
Anonymous said...: I have honestly reviewed all information concerning this horrible incident and have concluded that there may have actually been supertermites planted there to cause the collapse.; September 11, 2006 11:47 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous said...
9/11 = Osama Bin Laden
Osama Bin Laden = Al-Qaeda
Al-Qaeda = Iraqi Intel (Prague)
Iraqi Intel = Saddam Hussein
Saddam Hussein = 9/11

Problem is Al-Qaeda != Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5223932

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003250558_report09.html?syndication=rss

With no link between Al-Qaeda and Iraq there is no link between Sadam Hussein and 9/11... And there should have been no war... Except it was planned long before 9/11...

The PNAC, founded by Cheney, Rumbsfeld and crew published this in 2000.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Look at the following items.

Page 14 - "Indeed, the United States have for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

Page 51 - "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor."

A new Pearl Harbor, or in other words a suprise arial attack on this country.

I find the timing of this highly suspect.; September 11, 2006 11:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Hemorrhoid, I think the Nazi mentality is a bit passé.; September 12, 2006 12:32 AM
blogger said...: richard - it's not threadjacking when you talk about what the thread was about. this is it - the big 9/11 thread. have at it. get it out of your paranoid system

and I'm glad to see you finally admit planes hit the towers. thought you were one of the loonies who thought it wasn't planes

got bad news for you though - plane hit the pentagon and plane hit the ground

if you accept those four proven facts and THEN launch into the conspiracy theory, people may listen. Like "Bush sent the planes".

And "Keith is a moron" makes you look like a simpleton. Bring the argument, and bring us plausible theory. Otherwise you look the fool; September 12, 2006 12:43 AM
Anonymous said...: "how to disconect a jets transponder"

You change the 4 digit code to 1200 (vfr), DUMB ASS.

But I guess you've never been in the office of a plane!; September 12, 2006 12:51 AM
InfidelSix said...: I've tried to be open minded about the 9/11 conspiracy. There is some plausability to the theory and honestly, it all points to a single person: Al Gore.

#1. Al was upset from losing the election and moreso when his lawyers couldn't steal it for him.

#2. This operation would have taken years to plan and finance. The hijackers had been in the U.S. for many years prior to the attack ... the same years Al Gore was Vice President.

#3. The hijackers have been seen on video with OBL. A special Army task force "Able Danger" had most of these terrorists identified as a terror cell and located in the U.S. and tried to pass this intel to the FBI & CIA but were denied autorization several times by Jamie Gorelick, a NY lawyer appointed by the Clinton Administration. Why would the Clinton Administration want to prevent the "disruption" of this terror cell? Because, they needed them, that's why.

#3. Having Osama bin Laden claim culpability or "credit" for the attack would have taken a long time to negotiate. The price for this deal - letting him go when he was offered to Clinton, and warning him ahead of any strikes. Is it a wonder that he's always been one step ahead. Al Gore still has a lot of very powerful connections.

#4. Al, as we know is much smarter than Bush. He could've pulled it off - even without a single participant blowing the whilstle. Hell Hillary probably had 'em all killed (like all those mysterious deaths of people associated with the Clintons when they were in the White House). So it's a good bet that she's in on it too. Maybe that's why the Dems were lamenting that the attack didn't happen on "their" watch. They probably had it planned as a false flag and then said 'the hell with it, let's just do it anyway and then put "BUSH KNEW" on the NY Times.

#5. If Bush is too dumb too even "make sure" (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) that we discovered WMD's after completely lying about them b/c HE KNEW there weren't any, then there's no way he could've pulled this off. Heck, he can't even pull off a speech. Not a chance. Al Gore though ... he made a whole movie ... 'nuff said.; September 12, 2006 1:05 AM
blogger said...: if the islamists had blown up the planes going from the uk to us instead of getting caught, the conspiracy theorists would for sure have said bush ordered the hit so as to prop up his pre election ratings

I love a good conspiracy (like the kennedy assassination) but it's gotta be plausible and simply work in the context of the proven facts (kennedy got shot); September 12, 2006 1:26 AM
Anonymous said...: All the conspiracy loons on this site need to start googling things like "9/11 conspiracy theories debunked," instead of visiting Web sites created by anti-Semetic fanatics (yes, they are behind a lot of them), Muslims in denial, and college students who don't know squat.

So are the entire 9/11 commission, Pentagon staff, Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marines rigged? Are the NYC police all in on it? Everyone at the White House? The fire departments of New York and New Jersey? How come none of the THOUSANDS of REAL investigators on the scene for more than a year came away saying, "Oh, gravity couldn't do this, only explosives?" Well, both jets were filled with fuel WHICH EXPLODED. Morever, think of all the things in both towers that exploded too: gas lines, oxygen tanks. Who knows how many things? Thousands, doubtless. But, guess what? A left-wing THEOLOGIAN and a handful of KIDS have come up with a commercial video they claim PROVES a conspiracy. I bet they also believe in lizard aliens who eat humans (there are hundreds of Web sites devoted to this alleged government conspiracy, too), and that the X-Files was a factual program.

Building 7 was on fire for hours, with a huge hole in the side that firemen on the scene described in detail. They pulled their men out knowing it was going to collapse. The seismic force of the two larger buildings falling also destroyed many other buildings in the vicinity, even without EXPLOSIVES.

Go speak to some demolition experts and see if they think three huge buildings and several others could be blown up with rigged explosives without anyone seeing any explosives being planted EVER beforehand. Ask them how many hundreds of technicians and engineers would be required to rig all the buildings effectively, and how many more would be required to make sure they didn't blow up prematurely. The demolition of a single small skyscraper takes weeks of preparation, including sealing the area off to the public, but the conspiracy theorists claim GB or his henchmen did it all during a few-hour blackout a week or two before.

I think a lot of the people on this site are trying to sell copies of "Loose Change," one of dumbest conspiracy videos to-date, but slightly convincing till one looks at everything conveniently left out. A few years ago FOX aired a video claiming there was no moon landing. It was named "Conspiracy Theory," and made a very good case. Except that it was all hooey, and instantly debunked by legions of scientists who provided what the producer did not: explanations for the so called mysteries that actually weren't mysteries at all. The producer just happened to have produced the fictional movie "Capricorn I" a couple decades earlier, so he already knew how to make a case the gullible would fall for.; September 12, 2006 1:29 AM
Anonymous said...: The video of Ayman al-Zawahri was one of three al-Qaida released for the anniversary, showing increasingly sophisticated techniques as the group tries to demonstrate that it remains a powerful, confident force five years into the U.S. war on terror.

One video showed images of the planes striking the World Trade Center, lionizing the 19 suicide hijackers as men "who changed history." Another was a 91-minute documentary-style video in which Osama bin Laden is seen smiling and chatting with the planners of the Sept. 11 attacks in an Afghan mountain camp.; September 12, 2006 1:36 AM
blogger said...: I loved Capricorn One - top 10 movie of all time on my list. Even OJ was good.

Damn, that was a good movie.; September 12, 2006 1:37 AM
Roccman said...: Hey Keith - ok I will refrain from calling you a moron.

When the police state finally sinks into your thick skull...you will look back on today as the day - Dick told ya so.

Until then - enjoy your "freedom"

BTW - never once did I say to you on or off post that planes did not hit the buildings (WTC#1 and 2 ONLY)...

Remember Keith: 1) drink then 2) post...the other way makes you look a fool.; September 12, 2006 2:36 AM
Roccman said...: Hey Keith - why don't you post both Utube clips I sent you off line.

The first about how the majority of world governments believe 9-11 was an inside job...and the second about how 4 tons of steel magically launched itself 600 horizontally.

I brought the argument Keith and you are a moron.; September 12, 2006 2:45 AM
Anonymous said...: All true believers in the gov. story should go to this site (I'm not talking to the paid disinfo trolls). Please find the Boeing.

http://www.thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/plane-crash-pentagon-hole-photo.htm

No honest, non brain damaged individual can say a full size plane hit the Pentagon. There are however genetic pathological liars who don't understand that there is a reality "out there". They might believe it.; September 12, 2006 3:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Richard, You have now become the number one idiot of all hp'ers.
Your stupidity reminds me of some of the kids my daughter talks to on myspace. From this day forward, I will scroll past your comments on every post your in.
( and that will be alot of scrolling since you comment 10 times in every post keith has )
Your obviously some unemployed punk kid with nothing better to do all day.; September 12, 2006 3:13 AM
Roccman said...: Hey Sheeple - thanks for the post -

most people (like Keith) believe two 6 TON Titanium engines (titanium melts at 2800 degrees)and the rest of the plane fit it a 18 foot hole and vaporized ... then the vaporized plane went through another 9 layers of the pentagon to make another smaller hole in the interior.

I thought the nose of an airplane was fiberglass.

Hmmmmmm...; September 12, 2006 3:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Isn't there an episode of Star Trek or Cattlecar Galaxima you conspiracy theorists should be watching instead of talking about issues you know Nothing about!; September 12, 2006 3:15 AM
Roccman said...: THE OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY IS THE BIGGEST CONSPIRACY,*

By Barry Zwicker

[Originally published at: http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0609182/cg182_Zwicker.shtml]; September 12, 2006 3:23 AM
Roccman said...: THE 9/11 SMOKING GUN*
By William Brandon Shanley
(Dedicated to Michael Ruppert, Great American)

[Originally posted at: Thomas Paine’s Corner--http://civillibertarian.blogspot.com/2006/09/911-smoking-gun.html; September 12, 2006 3:23 AM
Roccman said...: [Here we are, once again, commemorating the event that has been used to justify “the war that won’t end in our lifetime.” The mainstream press and the U.S. Government have intensified their propaganda campaigns against the truth of 9/11 just in time for the occasion. The latest campaign came just a few weeks ago published by the U.S. Bureau of International Information where they list “The Top September 11 Conspiracy Theories.” The overwhelming majority of the “theories” that are posted deal with physical evidence while avoiding the central issues and documentation that are at the core of the case laid out in “Crossing the Rubicon” by Michael Ruppert. His case is ignored because it hasn’t been (and can’t be) contested in its totality.

We should all take note as to what is being focused on compared with what is being ignored or silenced. In doing so, perhaps we will learn how to fight the battles that lie ahead of us more effectively. – MK]

A REQUIEM FOR TRUTH: THE FINAL TRAGEDY OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001

(Opinion)

By Carolyn Baker, Ph.D.; September 12, 2006 3:25 AM
Roccman said...: An 8-minute video that draws parallels between 9/11 and the movie "V for Vendetta"

http://www.informat ionclearinghouse .info/article137 15.htm; September 12, 2006 3:41 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous said...

"Richard, You have now become the number one idiot of all hp'ers.
Your stupidity reminds me of some of the kids my daughter talks to on myspace. From this day forward, I will scroll past your comments on every post your in.
( and that will be alot of scrolling since you comment 10 times in every post keith has )
Your obviously some unemployed punk kid with nothing better to do all day."

Amen to that. He posted five more bits of rubbish after your letter. I bet you're right, and he's some teenager with delusions of inside information.; September 12, 2006 4:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Just saw "Loose Change".

Verdict: Yep, it was an inside job. There are so many contradictions and outright lies with the "official story" that only an ostich would continue to believe it after seeing this video.

BTW..."Richard" is actually Dick Cheney.; September 12, 2006 5:15 AM
Anonymous said...: NEW YORK -- I hear Osama bin Laden laughing. I heard him all day on Sunday and Monday as the mass murder of Sept. 11, 2001, was memorialized at the Pentagon and in that field in Pennsylvania and especially here, where the most people died and where countless cameras recorded it all for posterity and an abiding, everlasting anger. He laughs, the madman does, whenever George Bush says, as he has over and over, that America is "winning this war on terror." Bin Laden knows better. He has already won.

It is not merely that bin Laden has not been captured or killed and that videotapes keep coming out of his hideout like taunts. It is, rather, that his initial strategy has borne fruit. It was always his intention to draw the Americans into Afghanistan, where, as had been done to the Soviets, they could be mauled by the fierce mujaheddin. He tried and failed when he blew up the USS Cole off Aden at 11:15 a.m. on Oct. 12, 2000, killing 17 sailors and crippling the ship. But he succeeded beyond his wildest expectations when the United States responded to the Sept. 11 attacks by invading Afghanistan and, in a beat, then going to war in Iraq. It remains mired in both countries to this day.

From bin Laden's standpoint, this has been a glorious victory, made possible, it has to be said, by the totally unforeseen incompetence of the Bush administration; September 12, 2006 5:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Attention! all "where are the airplan e pieces" crackpots:

Here is what happens to an f-4 phantom when it crashes into a concrete block while traveling at 472mph.

http://tinyurl.com/hbskr

Notice that the f-4 appears to not have any fuel on board (no big explosion) where did the pieces go? according to loose marbles, the f4 never existed.

Notice that the f4 is vaporizing while the back of the block remains intact. The energy of the impact is sufficient to melt the any titanium components.

As for the empty hole from flight 93. The remaining "pieces" (likely small pieces) are buried below the surface of the hole. Do you think the plane would crater and magically pieces on the bottom of the hole? No, it would behave like a bullet fired from a rifle into the ground. Does the bullet make a hole and then leave it's remains on the bottom of the hole? No, it doesn't. It breaks up and the pieces are embedded below the surface of the bottom of the hole.; September 12, 2006 7:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Pull your head out, sheeples, ya been punked.

www.loosechangeguide.com
(one of several LC debunking sites)

Note to "Richard:" thanks - I now know to never bother reading anything you post.; September 12, 2006 8:42 AM
Roccman said...: Democracy Now: Loose Change Filmmakers debate Popular Mechanics Editors of "Debunking 9/11 Myths"

DYLAN AVERY: It would have had to have been a controlled demolition.
That's the only way to prove -- that's the only way to explain what
we saw with our own eyes, and any attempts to discredit that are just
not scientifically sound.

JAMES MEIGS: You know, this is a wonderful example of how conspiracy
theories work. Any time there's a little bit of doubt, a little bit
of area where we don't know everything, then the answer immediately
is, well, someone must have blown it up. It's a form of argumentation
that's also used by creationists. If they can find one little gap in
the evolutionary record, they say evolution's a hoax. Or Holocaust
deniers --

DYLAN AVERY: Mr. Meigs, with all do respect, these are two completely
different things.

JAMES MEIGS: Holocaust denial works with very similar --

DYLAN AVERY: Oh, my God!

JASON BERMAS: Oh, man!

RICHARD: Where to begin with people like Jason Bermas...really scary with these types of people.; September 12, 2006 1:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Ok, I admit it. I blew up the WTC.

I'm totally serial.

beware manbearpig!; September 12, 2006 6:42 PM
Anonymous said...: google video new video-911 PRESS FOR TRUTH--must watch http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1016720641536424083; September 12, 2006 7:12 PM
Roccman said...: Nonaligned want terrorism redefined

By VANESSA ARRINGTON, Associated Press Writer

Iran, Syria, North Korea and more than 100 other nations are pushing
to broaden the world's definition of "terrorism" to include the U.S.
occupation of Iraq and the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.

Converging on Fidel Castro's communist Cuba for a summit this week, members of the Nonaligned Movement complain of a double standard: powerful nations like the United States and Israel decide for the world who the terrorists are, but face no punishment for their own
acts of aggression.

Anyone want the link?; September 12, 2006 10:42 PM
Anonymous said...: It was all a Fake! Computer generated aircraft, computer gen people jumping from buildings! Towers downed by Bush!

Sounds stupid doesn't it?

You 'F n' lib's! For being the dumbest President ever, in your opinion, That's a pretty big operation to undertake!
Not to mention the underwater demolishion in New Orleans!

That's a mighty involved project for such a Stupid Frat-boy!

You idiot's will grasp on to any thread no matter how thin!

GET YOUR FRICKIN HEADS CHECKED!!!!; September 13, 2006 6:25 AM
Anonymous said...: OK, OK Richard, you convinced me that it was Putin and Co work at WTC. Now take your medication and go to sleep sweety...; September 13, 2006 8:30 AM

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