June 11, 2006

San Diego - Modeling the Bust: 25% - 35% price decline, taking 6 years


Well written piece in Voice of San Diego by a real estate pro. Please feel free to submit your own models to HP: % drop and # of years and why

One thing the author doesn't take into account with this bust though is the multiplier effect. I believe that so many jobs were created to support the bubble, not only are they going away, but also jobs that supported the jobs that supported the bubble - the drycleaner, the BMW salesman, the Home Depot worker, etc. I also think you need to measure against inflation to see where you should have been, and where you end up.


Let's say you bought last year for $500,000, in six years it's worth $350,000, inflation at 5% would have brought $500,000 to $638,00, so you lost nearly $300,000. Hello complete and total financial ruin.

All things being equal, the best way to model an impending downturn is to look to past down cycles for repeating patterns of market behavior. All things are, of course, not equal. The duration of the price run-up, the tremendous growth in real estate employment, the prevalence of negative-amortization and other "exotic" mortgages, the low levels of home equity, the sheer magnitude of the price increases, and the resultant crushing lack of home affordability -- all of these elements are unique to this unprecedented housing boom

Even still, keeping all our other assumptions the same, we find that home prices would have to decline by 23 percent within the allotted time period. (Inflation at this level would likely cause interest rates to rise to levels that would be problematic for the housing market. For simplicity's sake, though, let's just leave that aside for now).So, the Ghost of Housing Busts Past says that home prices will drop roughly between 25 percent and 35 percent from their 2005 levels, and that they will take around six years to do so. Will he be right? To answer that question, look back at the painfully long string of assumptions we had to make just to get this far. Put another way: who knows?

There are certainly an awful lot of cross-currents that could cause this post-boom housing market to behave quite differently than those that came before it. But if the past does end up repeating itself, it has at least given us an idea of what we are in for.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

This chart says it all!

So...to get back to the area previous downturns bottomed at we would need a price decline of about (drum roll....)

FIFTY PERCENT!

...and I bet we'll get it...

renting and waiting here

Anonymous said...

The only "positive" comment I have is that if a person bought a house to live in for 500K and it is worth 300K in two years, it is ok if they got a 30 year fixed and can afford the mortgage. In 10 years, they may see a positive return when the market turns. . . I think this is what we all want - housing to live in, not trade like an internet stock

Anonymous said...

Probably a reasonable forecast, but I think it will be worse. Buy one get one free or half off sales will be common in the bubbliest of areas.

Anonymous said...

Too many people are acting as though the impending Real Estate Crash will become an eventual great buying opportunity. Maybe, but I think this one will be worse than the others in that we have unprecendented levels of housing inventory.

I wonder if we see ghost developments. Streets of McMansions that never sold. How would you like to be the guy whose own house survived the crash but lives in on a street with 10 for sales signs around him? Who wants to own or buy a house in a deserted neighborhood?

Will these people be the real losers in the real estate crash?

Anonymous said...

There are lots of people who would love a chance to live in those empty neighborhoods. People all over the world.

Anonymous said...

My DREAM is to live in a hood with no people- no blasting cars stereos, no theft, no barking dogs and starving cats, no cars running over your pet, no noise, no trashy neighbors. WHERE DO I FIND ONE OF THESE? !!!!!!

Anonymous said...

My DREAM is to live in a hood with no people- no blasting cars stereos, no theft, no barking dogs and starving cats, no cars running over your pet, no noise, no trashy neighbors. WHERE DO I FIND ONE OF THESE? !!!!!!

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Problem is, they probably wouldn't all be empty. It'd be you, ten empty houses, two squatters, and a criminal den or crack house type deal. You'd be practically alone, be the people around you would be desperate and dangerous.

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