March 23, 2006

I know this blog is about the housing bubble, but I have to post on Abdul Rahman


It's 2006. We've been at this human race thing for more than a few thousand years.

And we still live in a world where we get this.

Solution? We need to destroy the Islamist movement, and anyone associated with it. This doesn't mean Islam, it doesn't mean Iraq. It means the Islamist cult and their members.

And to think we created this government. Not one penny more, not one more troop, should go there until they get this fixed. And if they kill this guy, we should go in and level the place with vengeance, to ensure their gene pool never breeds again.

Write your Senators folks. Do what you can on this one. Demand outrage.

Now back to the housing bubble.

27 comments:

rygnn2@voteswagon.com said...

This story is just too outrageous. It shows how racist and discriminatory it still is over there. Hey lets outsource more American jobs to this country and others just like it. The Afghani man being prosecuted will most likely be sentenced to death based on the allegation of converting from Islam to Christianity. The Afghani courts back this up, the Afghani government backs this up, does America really want to send funding to a country whose administration allows this? How can anyone support a nation where it is a capital punishment crime to practice your religion of choice?

Raymond B
www.voteswagon.com

Anonymous said...

Your solution sounds a bit harsh, but something should be done, The Muslim religion is the most dangerous plague in history with the express intention of destroying the world. It is without mercy. Its founder, A MASS MURDERER, LIAR, PIRATE, THIEF, PLAGIARIST, AND FAKE PROPHET, typifies its teachings. Ann there are a billion Muslims worldwide.

To say extremists should not be used to judge the others is absurd, since the others do nothing to stop them, and the religion was fabricated by an extremist. In Islam, it is worse to make a joke about this "Prophet" than it is to butcher a family, or destroy seven high rises in New York (The World Trade Center wasn't just the two tallest towers). Kidnap, murder, treat women like dirt, and nobody says a word. But, draw a harmless cartoon about A MASS MURDERER PRETENDING TO SPEAK FOR GOD and Muslims take to the streets rioting and killing. When the president of Afghanistan was asked about why nobody rioted when Muslims went around killing people, but did when cartoons were published, he looked at the reporter is disbelief, and said because the latter was "sacrilege!"

I guess that answers that.

foreclose_me said...

The West has been trying to 'deal' with Islam for 1,400 years. It is not worth the effort. The policy should be containment when possible, elimination when necessary.

There are a few Muslims or ex-Muslims who realize they are screwed up, and there has been talk that some kind of 'Gate' can be re-opened, which essentially is like a constitutional convention for Islam. It was 'closed' a long long time ago because it was seen as being abused. If it could be re-opened, maybe Islam could be fixed.

However, the Pope and others don't believe that it can be fixed, because at heart, the Koran is the word of Allah. (The Bible is the word of God as written by man, thus allowing some room to maneuver.)

Mozo Maz said...

Keith is trolling his own blog.

Anonymous said...

Paula Abdul has to go too. She doesn't contribute any constructive feedback to any of the singers. She looks like she's high on anti-depressants.

keith said...

mozo - there are some things that if you stand by and let them happen knowingly, without raising your voice, you are a coward, and as bad as the perpetrator.

This is one of those things. I couldn't not post it.

Anonymous said...

Paula is on something,I cannot understand her when she speaks..

Anonymous said...

We as Americans have our own issues to deal with.It is time to take our heads out of are asses and look around.Maybe then it will come in to focus.

albrt said...

I don't see the problem.

Afghanistan is run by murderous religious extremists and so is the U.S.

The only difference is that the U.S. is rich, so it can afford to sponsor endless media flatulance out of which the apologists can choose the most Orwellian euphemistic justifications. The Afghani leaders are in the unfortunate situation of having to state their actual opinions because they don't have a media-industrial complex to work out the most resonant rationalizations ahead of time.

This will only get worse as long as we have religious people in charge.

panicearly said...

poor guy, caught up in the middle of christian bombers and islamist
radicals.
religions are just mind viruses.

Anonymous said...

This isn't an indictment against islam but one against religious extremism. I'm sure you would be able to find a couple million "christians" in the USA who would entertain similar ideas against non-christians living in their midst. There is a long history of christians doing similar things throughout the world.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure you would be able to find a couple million "christians" in the USA who would entertain similar ideas against non-christians living in their midst.

Yeah, but in America such people are the lunatic fringe. In the Muslim world they are the government.

There is no equivalency between the two, no matter how much apologists for Islamism like to pretend there is.

When the Baptists start flying airplanes into skyscrapers and the Presbyterians start stoning adulterers in the local stadium, then you'll have a point.

But not until then.

Anonymous said...

There is a long history of christians doing similar things throughout the world.

I hate this moral-equivalence bullshit. It's just intellectually lazy. Comparing what's happening today in Islam to what happened nine hundred years ago in Christianity is absurd. So what are we supposed to do - give them a pass?

Anonymous said...

I posted as anonymous above and was called a muslim apologist. I am not defending muslims, but am attacking christian extremists. I am certain there are at least one million fundie christians in the US that given the opportunity, would behave in a similar way. I am not relying on long past historical events that christians can commit atrocities, but the fact that currently in the US there is a sizable minority that is actively working to impose a christian theocracy. The fringe element christian nutballs are as much a threat to the US as any. They are the fringe, but they are here now and at least a million in number, working to impose their christian Sharia on the rest of us. I have no doubt they would murder to further their ends, since in their fundamentalist minds, they are doing gods work.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:

"I posted as anonymous above and was called a muslim apologist. I am not defending muslims, but am attacking christian extremists. I am certain there are at least one million fundie christians in the US that given the opportunity, would behave in a similar way. I am not relying on long past historical events that christians can commit atrocities, but the fact that currently in the US there is a sizable minority that is actively working to impose a christian theocracy. The fringe element christian nutballs are as much a threat to the US as any. They are the fringe, but they are here now and at least a million in number, working to impose their christian Sharia on the rest of us. I have no doubt they would murder to further their ends, since in their fundamentalist minds, they are doing gods work."

Get serious. Bible-thumpers may be annoying, but they are not murderers, and they don't threaten the world with nuclear weapons, anthrax, and endless suicide bombers. The comparison is absurd. And a tiny minority is easily defeated by a huge majority.

Some Americans love to bitch and complain about how their rights are being eroded, but in fact, we have more rights today in the USA than we had ten years ago. It's all a matter of perception. If you look for demons, you'll find them. I bet you also believe in worldwide Jewish conspiracies run by the Illuminati and Masons, don't you?

The Koran commands Muslims to kill us. This is not these extreme, this is the norm. If the person identified as "albrt" above doesn't see a problem, then we have an even bigger problem than I thought. Do you two really want a billion superstitious, mostly illiterate, and often filthy Muslims running the world? If you think fundamentalist Christians are a threat to your happiness, just imagine how much fun you'll have as drones, bowing to Mecca.

I don't see any of these American apologists of Muslim terrorists moving to Iraq or Iran, where they can march with them in solidarity. What a bunch of phonies.

Anonymous said...

Again I am not an apologist for muslim terrorism. The theme of this thread seems to be that genocide is justified against middle east muslims because of 9.11 and because they think its OK to murder christians. That kind of thinking is obviously insane on both sides. You guys are advocating genocide. Yikes!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:

"Again I am not an apologist for muslim terrorism. The theme of this thread seems to be that genocide is justified against middle east muslims because of 9.11 and because they think its OK to murder christians. That kind of thinking is obviously insane on both sides. You guys are advocating genocide. Yikes!"

No I'm not. I wrote the first reponse, which said Keith's solution sounded harsh, and of course, he IS being dramatic, which is supposed to get us to sit up and take notice. I don't approve of killing anybody, but I do advocate OUTLAWING Islam everywhere outside the Middle East. Do you know, it is the fastest growing religion in Mexico? And have looked at our border security lately? Islam is so evil, no civilized country can possibly justify allowing its practice there, no matter how important "freedom of religion" is. Germany has outlawed Scientology, another insane religion, but Islam flourishes unchecked everywhere, and its intent IS to destroy us.

If it called itself, let's see . . . the Nazi Party, would everyone be so quick to make excuses and point to ancient history or the faults of others to excuse it? Would everyone keep quiet because they didn't want to step on its "freedom of expression?" I don't see "Liberals" on the whole standing up for Roman Catholicism or Judaism, or worrying about offending their followers. But, say something about Islam, whose followers attacked New York City and killed thousands, and "Liberals" immediately accuse one of being racist or of advocating genocide. Well, Islam DOES ADVOCATE GENOCIDE and cruelty to women, children, and animals. Some of its clerics are now calling for the murder of all homosexuals worldwide (hundreds of millions) by beheading, dismembering, or burning-to-death. Nothing theoretical or a matter of interpretation there. Muslims actually do murder people every day in the name of their former MOON GOOD Allah, but not a peep of criticism issues from the mouths or pens of most American feminists, or most American university professors. Why do you suppose that is?

You actually compared a handful of fundamentalist Christians who want to what--prevent gay marriage?--to hundreds of millions of religious lunatics (literally) who want to KILL BILLIONS, and very possibly could. I think your comparison is illogical in the extreme.

AmazingRuss said...

Lets outlaw all those other "grey haired man in the sky" cults outside the middle east, for that matter. They all seem to have their holy outhouses and whatnot situated there...what better way to put them in closer touch with their imaginary friends that to cram them all into that mess?

Anonymous said...

AmazingRuss said...

"Lets outlaw all those other "grey haired man in the sky" cults outside the middle east, for that matter. They all seem to have their holy outhouses and whatnot situated there...what better way to put them in closer touch with their imaginary friends that to cram them all into that mess?"

Sounds good to me. I'm the "anonymous" who engaged in the anti-Islam rants, above.

albrt said...

>>If the person identified as "albrt" above doesn't see a problem, then we have an even bigger problem than I thought.<<

If you would call the human race being extinct within thirty years a problem, then I guess you have a problem. Humans are just too damn stupid to control the level of technology that exists now.

Example: I could forgive the ridiculous clusterfuck of the U.S. 2000 election, but in 2004 Bush ran on a clear platform of being an ignorant, arrogant, dishonest war criminal. America voted for him. Americans don't even have the excuse of being brought up in poverty without a decent education like the folks in Afghanistan. The concept of humans as being capable of rational thought just can't survive an event like the 2004 election.

For myself, I've had a decent life and I don't have kids, so I don't care very much any more. I'm just trying to make enough money by shorting the housing bust so I can survive as long as possible and know how the human story ends. It's as rational a goal as anybody else has.

Anonymous said...

I am certain there are at least one million fundie christians in the US that given the opportunity, would behave in a similar way.

Hallmark of the intellectually lazy - substitute emphatic assertions of belief ("I am certain") for actual facts. Have any evidence of this? Any speeches made by prominent Christians calling for the deaths of non-believers? Widespread acts of Christian-inspired violence taking place all over the country? Didn't think so. I'm sure there are a few nutjobs out there among Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc (I am none of the above). However, Islam stands alone as a religion that has institutionalized this kind of shit. If you disagree, give us the name of a SINGLE prominent muslim cleric who has come out publicly against the murder of this man for his religions beliefs [hears crickets chirping].

Anonymous said...

Islam has systematically eliminated most Christians from Saudi Arabia. There were published reports of Arabian Christians being beheaded in public or deported as late as the 90's. Sharia was yet the law in Arabia. Christians do not have a law of beheading Muslims. It is the Muslims with the false religion. A shame Bush defended a nation with such a horrible record of murder.

Anonymous said...

So if this guy is executed won't he be going straight to heaven, something like Perpetua? Shouldn't we be happy for his arrival at the pearly gates? As Christians wouldn't it be sinful to use this this as an excuse to hate? Maybe he will be sainted, good for him.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"So if this guy is executed won't he be going straight to heaven, something like Perpetua? Shouldn't we be happy for his arrival at the pearly gates? As Christians wouldn't it be sinful to use this this as an excuse to hate? Maybe he will be sainted, good for him."

Are you joking? Also, did you ever take a high school English class? What is the subject of the following sentence?

"As Christians wouldn't it be sinful to use this as an excuse to hate?"

Anonymous said...

It's all about being politic correctness. In Europe the muslim communities get stronger and stronger by using the tolerance mentality of the countries they invade. It makes me sick to my stomache. I am from Holland and will never return to that country. The county is being held hostage and people are really worried!In my opinion this is a pit bull religion, and you can never change them into Golden Retrievers!!

Anonymous said...

It wasn't that long ago that xtians were burning heretics* at the stake in the town square. So get off your high horse.

The problem is not Islam, nor Islamism. The problem is religion in general.


* Heretic, n. One who fails to recognize the authority of the pope.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"It wasn't that long ago that xtians were burning heretics* at the stake in the town square. So get off your high horse.

"The problem is not Islam, nor Islamism. The problem is religion in general.


"* Heretic, n. One who fails to recognize the authority of the pope."

Monday, March 27, 2006 2:31:11 PM
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Unfortunately, your definition is spurious. So is your argument. The Islamic world, for the most part, is not living in the Dark Ages, and cannot excuse its cruelty on the basis of ignorance. Many Muslims have been well educated in the West, and most have good access to mass media, unlike Christians in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries.

"Heresy" comes from Greek hairesis, meaning "choice," and heretics were, historically, persons who chose what to believe or not believe, regardless of the ruling forces. This does mean their choices were wise or intelligent.

Buddhism has an almost spotless history, so you cannot equate all religions.

The problem IS Islam, a particularly stupid, hateful religion founded by an insane mass-murderer, thief, pirate, and general scumbag, who simply plagiarized the scriptures of Jews and Christians, and changed names here and there to suit himself. The older he got, the meaner he got, and the more preposterous his claims became. Only the dumbest people on Earth could actually believe he was a prophet, or that he ascended to Heaven on his horse. But, a billion people do.

The Koran teaches Muslims to kill ALL non-Muslims. If you think that's okay, why not move to Iran to express your sympathy? I'm sure you'll be well-treated.