tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post6847316497324834563..comments2023-12-30T10:06:37.450+00:00Comments on HousingPANIC - The Housing Bubble Blog with an Attitude Problem, 2005 - 2008: Today show report on desperate homedebtors suing their RE/MAX realtor for fraudbloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06585266242070350399noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-10533137389377196082008-02-02T12:56:00.000+00:002008-02-02T12:56:00.000+00:00"It's not to much to expect a real estate agent to..."It's not to much to expect a real estate agent to do *something* for their 6% of a million dollars commission. Are you really taking the side of the lazy real estate agent or you just can't get past the fact that you don't like strong women daring to sue anyone?"<BR/><BR/>Sounds to me like the agent probably did do something. I mean, if that client is a 'strong woman', don't you think she made the agent work for her money? Problem is, it doesn't appear like she grilled the agent about the comps. Then she might have a better case, because if she got a dishonest answer, then she can say that the agent lied. Not sure how or when the comps issue came up, if at all. If the Internet didn't exist, I would have some sympathy for that woman, because it would be harder to look up sale prices.<BR/>-----------------<BR/><BR/>"And to all the comments about a 6 percent commission and about how Realtors are scum and do no work, I would challenge you to put in an offer on a home without a Realtor or sell your home without a Realtor. It is probably the biggest financial deal you will ever do, and you want to do it without any professional guidance? Have you ever reviewed a title policy? Do you know how to research and remove encumbrances from a title? What sort of Errors and Omission Insurance do you carry to protect the deal should something unforeseen happen shortly before or after closing? What if you sold your home and the foundation collapsed because of a problem you did not know about? Would you want that buyer to come after you or the Realtor you used?"<BR/><BR/>LOL...ever heard of a lawyer? I get one for my closings, and they're much cheaper than any damn realtor, plus they actually know the law instead of these realtor posers. When I lived in Wisconsin, I had a realtor point up her nose at me and say, "You have to be licensed if you buy or sell more than 8 houses in a year." Oh really? I asked her to cite the statute which says such a stupid thing. I already knew the answer.<BR/>-------------------<BR/><BR/>"If you think being a Realtor is such a cake job and the pay is so incredible, why don't you go out and get licensed?"<BR/><BR/>The only reason I would get licensed is to get MLS access from the NAR cartel. Anything more than that and I would have to shoot myself in the head.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10586722597797330208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-69044264451257159002008-02-02T02:53:00.000+00:002008-02-02T02:53:00.000+00:00That husband is a sickening cow-towing, sycophanti...That husband is a sickening cow-towing, sycophantic mangina. Was spinless shit. And the wife is an obvious bitch. Perfect pair. No one else want her annoying shit. What a couple of dumbasses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-28459939646897399492008-02-02T00:44:00.000+00:002008-02-02T00:44:00.000+00:00What happened to the intelligence on this blog? Ca...What happened to the intelligence on this blog? <BR/><BR/>Calling this girl a bitch and making judgements on the relationship between her and her husband is childish. Grow up people.<BR/><BR/>I am all for personal responsibility but when you pay $30k+ to have someone represent you, you should feel responsibly secure that this person is going to do their job and be ethical about it.<BR/><BR/>The realtor is someone you hire to help you. If you can't trust them or have to worry about them withholding information, what's the point of having them involved?<BR/><BR/>If you hire a lawyer, you expect them to be on your side and if they don't do a reasonable job, you can sue them for malpractice. There should be some standards that realtors are also held to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-75721837881120577692008-02-01T21:15:00.000+00:002008-02-01T21:15:00.000+00:00How unfortunate. This buyer is completely overreac...How unfortunate. This buyer is completely overreacting and people posting their thoughts are doing the same. <BR/><BR/>The Realtor does have an ethical obligation to his or her client. The following comes directly from the NAR Code of Ethics:<BR/><BR/>Article 1<BR/>When representing a buyer, seller, landlord, tenant, or other client as an agent, REALTORS® pledge themselves to protect and promote the interests of their client. This obligation to the client is primary, but it does not relieve REALTORS® of their obligation to treat all parties honestly. When serving a buyer, seller, landlord, tenant or other party in a non-agency capacity, REALTORS® remain obligated to treat all parties honestly. (Amended 1/01)<BR/><BR/>The questions that no one has thought to ask is if the Realtor did provide comps on other active listings? So what if there were sold comps for $100k less? Maybe this was the last house in the subdivision. Ever heard of supply and demand? There are a lot of unanswered questions that could fully clear up the issue of whether or not the Realtor did his job. <BR/><BR/>And to all the comments about a 6 percent commission and about how Realtors are scum and do no work, I would challenge you to put in an offer on a home without a Realtor or sell your home without a Realtor. It is probably the biggest financial deal you will ever do, and you want to do it without any professional guidance? Have you ever reviewed a title policy? Do you know how to research and remove encumbrances from a title? What sort of Errors and Ommission Insurance do you carry to protect the deal should something unforseen happen shortly before or after closing? What if you sold your home and the foundation collapsed because of a problem you did not know about? Would you want that buyer to come after you or the Realtor you used? <BR/><BR/>Here's the short list of what Realtors do for their clients: Marketing (a small brokerage and agents will spend about $200,000 a year marketing listings), market research, contract negotiation, title review, closing scheduling and timelines, staging homes, driving clients, touring properties, hosting open houses. Realtors will often work with a Buyer for over a year to find the right property or home and they MAY get a 3% percent commission that they then have to split with the brokerage AND pay taxes. Listings can take 1-2 years to sell. Most homes are not 1.2million, so for a $400,000 the Realtor will be making around $3,000 to $5,000 for a year of work. Then there are all those clients who will make the Realtor research actives and solds, tour dozens of homes, make calls, research property history, etc. and then decide they really aren't ready to buy. The Realtor makes a whopping $0 for that six month ordeal. If you think being a Realtor is such a cake job and the pay is so incredible, why don't you go out and get licensed? Oh, but here is another fun fact you may want to consider; you'll be spending at least $5,000 a year for continuing education, licensing, and other fees. Add on the marketing money that you'll be spending to the tune of $5,000 to $10,000 a year on the low end.<BR/><BR/>There are bad Realtors that don't do their jobs. There are also bad retail employees, bad accountants, bad dentists . . . . <BR/><BR/>Educate yourself about what questions to ask and then interview prior to hiring a Realtor to assist you in the biggest purchase you may make in your life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-7305658810264325872008-02-01T18:02:00.000+00:002008-02-01T18:02:00.000+00:00It's not to much to expect a real estate agent to ...It's not to much to expect a real estate agent to do *something* for their 6% of a million dollars commission. Are you really taking the side of the lazy real estate agent or you just can't get past the fact that you don't like strong women daring to sue anyone?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-87424187119622691322008-02-01T16:44:00.000+00:002008-02-01T16:44:00.000+00:00Boy, can I relate to her plight. After experienci...Boy, can I relate to her plight. After experiencing what she has, I have learned that Realtors are NOT concerned about their clients best interest, but rather simply their own. My wife and I will never use a Realtor again. Scum of the earth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-50683946256022817152008-02-01T16:06:00.000+00:002008-02-01T16:06:00.000+00:00yup, no doubt she made the decision to purchase th...yup, no doubt she made the decision to purchase the house when he didn't want to and now that she's been screwed, and will continue to get screwed for the next five years as her house price declines, she wants to save face to her husband and friends by filing and winning a lawsuit against the realtor.<BR/><BR/>i can't say she doesn't have a gripe though; the realtor should have told her about all the houses on the block, but it really does come down to the buyer to ask the questions and do the homework. the thing is tho, the differential is only about 5% from the other houses so it's not a huge difference and there are factors that could account for it. <BR/><BR/>just sounds like she purchased the house - probably way too big for them - and now that things are tanking she wants out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-43765481651303373772008-02-01T14:03:00.000+00:002008-02-01T14:03:00.000+00:00She should sue her plastic surgeon instead.She should sue her plastic surgeon instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-23036636978265718012008-02-01T05:15:00.000+00:002008-02-01T05:15:00.000+00:00Lets see....um....thats too bad you stupid bitchLets see....um....thats too bad you stupid bitchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-70080470252909242592008-02-01T05:10:00.000+00:002008-02-01T05:10:00.000+00:00In any legal case, the real issue revolves around ...In any legal case, the real issue revolves around fact but I wouldn't rule the woman out. Check out "Manderville v. PCG & S Group" in this post over at <A HREF="http://www.californiahousingforecast.com/commentary/2008/1/30/new-laws-and-forms-for-california-buyers-and-sellers.html" REL="nofollow"> California Housing Forecast</A> It is a recent court case that did rule against the agent for a misleading MLS description. That agent also tried the "due diligence" defense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-44379099360475809082008-02-01T04:41:00.000+00:002008-02-01T04:41:00.000+00:00HaaaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaa!21 reasons to hate realtors.21...HaaaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaa!<BR/>21 reasons to hate realtors.<BR/>21 reasons fools will be fleeced, given the oppertunity.<BR/>If they win, Gregg Swann better flee the country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-37914536695878569152008-02-01T03:28:00.001+00:002008-02-01T03:28:00.001+00:00It makes me happy that sophisticated, greedy, dumb...It makes me happy that sophisticated, greedy, dumb buyers like this have their feathers ruffled and are huffy and engraged.<BR/><BR/>Truth be told, these people were sophisticated enough to know that housing was going up and they thought they'd really cash in and didn't care about the other $175K.<BR/><BR/>I feel sorry for the honest people, not the beautiful faux rich poseurs.<BR/><BR/>Let them eat cake!<BR/><BR/>I like that they lost money. <BR/><BR/>I'm a little devil about this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-71571578371445287532008-02-01T03:28:00.000+00:002008-02-01T03:28:00.000+00:00It makes me happy that sophisticated, greedy, dumb...It makes me happy that sophisticated, greedy, dumb buyers like this have their feathers ruffled and are huffy and engraged.<BR/><BR/>Truth be told, these people were sophisticated enough to know that housing was going up and they thought they'd really cash in and didn't care about the other $175K.<BR/><BR/>I feel sorry for the honest people, not the beautiful faux rich poseurs.<BR/><BR/>Let them eat cake!<BR/><BR/>I like that they lost money. <BR/><BR/>I'm a little devil about this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-20959136537000079982008-02-01T02:53:00.000+00:002008-02-01T02:53:00.000+00:00As an appraiser, this legal crack on the video is ...As an appraiser, this legal crack on the video is being paid by the NAR or some other org. The agent had the lender in her pocket to get the "deal done". The lender had some hack appraiser in their pocket to ge the deal done. Which is why I can not understand why someone would not pay an additional $400 - $600 to get an appraisal INDEPENDENT from the lender for personal use. Although I'm definitely not as busy as 2003/2004 I've been able to build a niche in doing independent appraisals for "personal use" and 6 out of the last 9 I've done have decided not to buy the house based on my appraisals coming in 25k -105k lower than the lender's and mine being marked as "declining" market.<BR/><BR/>Schadenfreude to all who deserve it!<BR/><BR/>SocalappraiserAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-28344700399031620172008-02-01T01:15:00.000+00:002008-02-01T01:15:00.000+00:00Not a very strong strike against realtors, but it ...Not a very strong strike against realtors, but it does hint that RE can and will go down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-19691136989326620572008-01-31T22:33:00.000+00:002008-01-31T22:33:00.000+00:00yea the A/C comment made me think, huh?she has abs...yea the A/C comment made me think, huh?<BR/>she has absolutely no case and from looking at her i would think she is herself a realtor, but i'm glad she's bringing the reic reputation downGThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16967976099367166675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-48453747968908593852008-01-31T22:30:00.001+00:002008-01-31T22:30:00.001+00:00This just goes to show that realtors are....useles...This just goes to show that realtors are....<BR/><BR/><BR/>useless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-21368081860536959712008-01-31T22:30:00.000+00:002008-01-31T22:30:00.000+00:00This just goes to show that realtors are....useles...This just goes to show that realtors are....<BR/><BR/><BR/>useless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1664508227197522972008-01-31T21:34:00.000+00:002008-01-31T21:34:00.000+00:00My diagnosis on this individual and in this marria...My diagnosis on this individual and in this marriage.<BR/><BR/>According to the husband she is tenacious? That actually means she is a bi*ch and she is the one who wears the pants on the house. She is got too much free time and this is just a pet project from her, something to keep her busy. On top of that she in a attention whor*. She knows this is something unusually, but she loves the attention that she was even willing to travel to New York and be on the Today Show and give an on location interview. <BR/><BR/>Even with the lawyer for the network present and telling her that she does not have a case, she is still arguing and behaving like she is going to get something out this. Yes she will, a lot of attention, which is what attention whor*s like her crave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-76426759415731785562008-01-31T20:25:00.000+00:002008-01-31T20:25:00.000+00:00That's what realt-whores are hired to do... due-di...That's what realt-whores are hired to do... due-diligence (research properties) on behalf of the buyers. Six percent on 1.2 million is a lot of money, and this case definitely seems the realt-whore deliberately steered this couple into a higher-priced house when comparables with better features sold for a 100-175k less.<BR/><BR/>Who are you all cheerleading for, the people or the NAR? Realt-whores a very much to blame for pushing up prices.<BR/><BR/>Goes to show you that realtors are bottom feeders of real estate. How difficult should it really be to buy real estate?? If I like the house/property, and there are no liens on it, title goes to either me or my bank... plain and simple. There are a lot of bottom feeders (middle-men) when it comes to real estate. Therotically, buying a house should be no different than buying a car... and depreciate like cars do... a house is a place to live... not an investment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-84821159804204504512008-01-31T18:21:00.000+00:002008-01-31T18:21:00.000+00:00WTF...don't tell me this b!tch payed 1.2 mil for n...WTF...don't tell me this b!tch payed 1.2 mil for no A/C...LOL......... 1.2 million for a tract home, but wait.....it has granite...hahahahahahah<BR/><BR/><BR/>Exactly. You choose to live in an area that sells that kind of home for 1.2 mill you should be prepared to take a loss. The attorney hit it on the head when she said the value of a home is what people are willing to pay for it. This couple were obviously willing and able. You don't get a do over when you loose money in the stock market for making poor choices. Home ownership is the same. All that being said, the realtor should have at least disclosed the lesser value down the street and negotiated or attempted to negotiate for a better deal. A little CYA never hurt anyone.Faulknerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01806151976299111969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-29974732766330081252008-01-31T18:08:00.000+00:002008-01-31T18:08:00.000+00:00frank@scottsdale-scuks.com:That's not a big surpri...frank@scottsdale-scuks.com:<BR/><BR/>That's not a big surprise considering how close SD is to the border. SD is just one notch better than the Inland Empire imo. That's not saying a lot considering the IE is the bottom of the barrel. Right there next to Detroit.VectorzSigmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07301420920709667827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-80698599457003202522008-01-31T18:00:00.000+00:002008-01-31T18:00:00.000+00:00The fact that you would go on TV and blame the Rea...The fact that you would go on TV and blame the Realtor for not doing any leg work of your own.<BR/><BR/>How do you get to the point in life where you can buy a $1.2 million home and not learn to do some of that stuff.<BR/><BR/>Oh wait, I forgot the fact all you had to do was fog a mirror to get the loan. Sorry.X-erhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17558935284335095479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-53717340024427489292008-01-31T17:49:00.000+00:002008-01-31T17:49:00.000+00:00Realtors may be scum but people like this are even...<I>Realtors may be scum but people like this are even worse.</I><BR/><BR/>These people moved from marin county, ca. So they are "special".marinite2https://www.blogger.com/profile/17891137077527825600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-23951126837461784882008-01-31T17:48:00.000+00:002008-01-31T17:48:00.000+00:00When the interviewer finally asked the husband a q...When the interviewer finally asked the husband a question at the end, I'm suprised he didn't ask his wife's permission to speak before answering the question. How could someone so dumb even had made enough money to afford a million plus home. I'm betting she inherited it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com