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Football is almost here, so let's get ready with Top Bonuses, Free Picks, and More!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157127183975398692006-09-01T17:13:00.000+01:002006-09-01T17:13:00.000+01:00If I could diverge from the "you liberals are stup...If I could diverge from the "you liberals are stupid..no you conservatives are stupid..wah...wah.wah..wah...(isn't this getting old already?..maybe not)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Florida may be unique among states in the pain it is going to suffer from the housing crash. So much of the employment (especially good paying employment) is dependent on the fees..commissions..contractor pay, etc. from the housing boom.<BR/><BR/>If you strip that away without giving the economy time to adjust you have the makings of a true economic crash. While I share many of the criticisms of my adopted home state I would prefer not to see it go down the toilet.<BR/><BR/>One criticism I have not seen other posters state is how proud they are down here of creating low wage jobs, there is definitely an emphasis on quantity over quality, we gleefully pour derision on those northerners losing those high wage "blue state" factory jobs as we have a plentiful supply of wal mart jobs. I think we're soon going to find out that our economy was also propped up by overpaid and unsustainable employment (high commissions = high union wages), while they weren't union members they are just as endangered in the changing american economy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157125646822274762006-09-01T16:47:00.000+01:002006-09-01T16:47:00.000+01:00Anonymous said... Keith, You aren't from the South...Anonymous said... <BR/>Keith, <BR/><BR/><BR/>You aren't from the South. Please don't try to understand us. (I grew up in Mississippi; a lifetime is needed to "get it".) And stereotyping us just makes you look really sad. <BR/><BR/><BR/>I too grew up in Mississippi and if it took you a lifetime to "get it" then your severely retarded. The reason its still so cheap to live there is an almost perfect record of creating poverty and driving educated wealth producers out of the state. Don't listen to these illiterate bubbas, the real welfare in this country flows from the rich new yankees to the forever poor and stupid red state folk. They think because they don't get a check every month that they aren't on welfare, somehow they are living the middle class american lifestyle without producing the wealth needed for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157124135123808382006-09-01T16:22:00.000+01:002006-09-01T16:22:00.000+01:00How come everytime someone gets in over their head...How come everytime someone gets in over their heads, whether it's a natural disaster, ala Katrina or someone being told to leave (New Orleans), not to buy, not to jump in over your head...etc. There's always someone there to bail them out! Then we find out corruption abounds...remember the Gov. gift cards! <BR/> I just recieved a notice from the FTB about a $5 ,that's right five dollars, additional re-adjustment for something from years ago, to my quarterlies. I'm married, no kids, don't own my own business. All told, i'm giving them $2500.00 every quarter! Now their busting my Balls for five dollars! Where's my Gift card?<BR/> We can't find the most wanted, or Osama, but they had no problem in trackin me down for $5Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157122842131909772006-09-01T16:00:00.000+01:002006-09-01T16:00:00.000+01:00And by the way go MIAMI. Lets Go Canes.And by the way go MIAMI. Lets Go Canes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157117441208380972006-09-01T14:30:00.000+01:002006-09-01T14:30:00.000+01:00Here, dont go around knocking Florida, where else ...Here, dont go around knocking Florida, where else am I going to off load this warehouse full of pink t-shirts, white linen suits and espadrills??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157091451585448092006-09-01T07:17:00.000+01:002006-09-01T07:17:00.000+01:00Leftards - I love the term!Leftards - I love the term!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157076133011767402006-09-01T03:02:00.000+01:002006-09-01T03:02:00.000+01:00Florida was very good to me. In the past 6 years i...Florida was very good to me. In the past 6 years i made enough money in RE to never have to work again. I moved to smith lake in alabama, the people here are ten times nicer than all of those so called educated people i have met over the years.<BR/><BR/> To bad some of you educated people didn't have the common sense to buy lots of florida property 6 years ago. I retired at 26 and uneducated to boot. Ahahaha I'll be going back when the crash is over, to buy my condo for the winter months..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157075217322357282006-09-01T02:46:00.000+01:002006-09-01T02:46:00.000+01:00I love it! The places that will be hit the hardest...I love it! The places that will be hit the hardest as the housing crash unfolds are overwhelmingly in Blue-State metropolitan areas disproportionately populated by leftards. <BR/><BR/>Carl Rove, you ROCK dude!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157072612217443462006-09-01T02:03:00.000+01:002006-09-01T02:03:00.000+01:00Keith, You aren't from the South. Please don't tr...Keith, <BR/><BR/><BR/>You aren't from the South. Please don't try to understand us. (I grew up in Mississippi; a lifetime is needed to "get it".) And stereotyping us just makes you look really sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157065113926320842006-08-31T23:58:00.000+01:002006-08-31T23:58:00.000+01:00"Real estate in NOLA......what a mess......the low..."Real estate in NOLA......what a mess......the lower classes are wiped out and not returning. the upper classes are now getting the itch to sell and there are no real buyers. Over 500 homes now for sale in the Uptown neighborhood and garden district has nearly 100 for sale. prices are falling and will fall further IMHO. What a mess. Many better restaurants remain closed and business is just plain bad. Been here for 3 weeks now and I see no good outcomes at this point."<BR/><BR/>++++How sad. It looks like the popping of the housing bubble will be the end of New Orleans. If the rich people move away, there will be no one left....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157063149911559802006-08-31T23:25:00.000+01:002006-08-31T23:25:00.000+01:00Those of us who love Florida think that the bubble...Those of us who love Florida think that the bubble cannot pop soon enough. <BR/><BR/>We have watched beautiful beaches be scraped flat and paved to make way for soulless concrete monoliths filled with vulgar carpetbaggers, with their lousy manners, entitlement issues, and chainsaw voices. The water is now seriously polluted, thanks to runoff (watch out for the flesh-eating bacteria!). Flooding is a growing problem, since every inch of ground is paved now. <BR/><BR/>Real estate is so impossibly expensive that people who actually work for a living are having to bail out, to be replaced by still more idle carpetbaggers. Property taxes have skyrocketed, thanks to the insane false valuations brought to us by the carpetbaggers and our own homegrown parasites who cater to them. Insurance rates are killing us, in large part because of people who insist on building ostentatious multimillion dollar Mcmansions right on the water. (There's a reason why oldtimers built cinderblock shacks at the beach--when the storm comes, as it inevitably will, you can just sweep the sand out, put on a new roof, and go on with life.) The elderly carpetbaggers bitch ceaselessly about paying school taxes, since their kids graduated back in Noo Yoik in '42. <BR/><BR/>And so on.<BR/><BR/>Like I said, those of us who actually live here are mostly happy to see what's happening here. I hope every carpetbagger loses every penny he's got and has to thumb a ride back home with his few remaining belongings in a paper sack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157060904424885542006-08-31T22:48:00.000+01:002006-08-31T22:48:00.000+01:00It has to do with Taxes too. If you lived in new y...It has to do with Taxes too. If you lived in new york and were looking to retire (not to mention die and pass on your wealth) you would move to florida (no state tax or death tax) and save yourself a lot of money. The weather in florida is great in the winters too but I think that is secondary.<BR/><BR/>Everything else said is pretty much true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157054064611872922006-08-31T20:54:00.000+01:002006-08-31T20:54:00.000+01:00Bushwick Bill said . . ."Of course there is an ext...Bushwick Bill said . . .<BR/><BR/>"Of course there is an extreme to almost everything. The New Yorkers are the ones that really moved the prices. This is the biggest inter-state migration. Cost of living was a major factor. Well, now that seems to have changed, but do not blame Florida. The blame is at the feet of those who came to Florida in droves to speculate on real estate. However, the root of the problem is the Feds."<BR/><BR/>This is exactly right. Yankees, mainly from New York, have driven prices through the roof. For them, a million dollars for a 2 bedroom dump is no big deal, but for the rest of us, it is a nightmare that they have created.<BR/><BR/>As for when? Try 9/12. The influx of New Yorkers to Tampa has been nothing short of staggering, and you wouldn't believe the hideous condos and townhouses they snatch up, thinking they're elegant for living in Florida. Even waterfront property facing the sewage treatment plant is regarded by New Yorkers as enviable real estate.<BR/><BR/>For several years now, Tampa has been the #1 destination for millionaires in America, and there are TONS of millionaires here who CAN afford the prices. Davis Islands, Hyde Park, SoHo, Beach Park, Palma Ceia, Bayshore Beautiful, Golfview . . . Crammed with money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157053485096904692006-08-31T20:44:00.000+01:002006-08-31T20:44:00.000+01:00I don't know... when did all of the Jewish folks m...I don't know... when did all of the Jewish folks move to Florida..?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157050894018003602006-08-31T20:01:00.000+01:002006-08-31T20:01:00.000+01:00Talk about Nawhlins... From a rich guy that has a...Talk about Nawhlins... From a rich guy that has a second house there:<BR/><BR/>"real estate in NOLA......what a mess......the lower classes are wiped out and not returning. the upper classes are now getting the itch to sell and there are no real buyers. Over 500 homes now for sale in the Uptown neighborhood and garden district has nearly 100 for sale. prices are falling and will fall further IMHO. What a mess. Many better restaurants remain closed and business is just plain bad. Been here for 3 weeks now and I see no good outcomes at this point."<BR/><BR/>Chocolate city. he he ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157046982198887842006-08-31T18:56:00.000+01:002006-08-31T18:56:00.000+01:00"Liberalism is a mental disease that has spread th..."Liberalism is a mental disease that has spread throughout the country. It was the retarded left-wing jackals from the northeast that flooded into Florida and drove up the housing prices. Only a low IQ liberal piece of trash would pay $1 million for a shabby condo in Florida.<BR/><BR/>I'm still laughing at the stupid leftards who couldn't figure out a butterfly ballot back in 2000."<BR/><BR/>But I thought all liberals were poor, unemployed welfare recipients?<BR/><BR/>Fucking idiot conservative. Your days are numbered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157046795919839062006-08-31T18:53:00.000+01:002006-08-31T18:53:00.000+01:00florida gets their cash from retirees. think about...florida gets their cash from retirees. think about all the money them old people bring and spend on golf, boating, and medical alone. i'd say 50% of FL $ is for these services alone. of course they own a lot of property and buy their kids and grandkids places so they can come visit comfortably. the coasts are also huge vacation spots, but the middle only has orlando and UF, the rest is nothingness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157045969554229102006-08-31T18:39:00.000+01:002006-08-31T18:39:00.000+01:00anon 4:21. You are an idiot. Liberals AND conserva...anon 4:21. You are an idiot. Liberals AND conservatives are retards. If you follow a party line you are an IDIOT and a lemming. Right wing tards are also buying those turd condos. For you to think it is only liberals shows you are a tard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157045616159685972006-08-31T18:33:00.000+01:002006-08-31T18:33:00.000+01:00I've had family in FL for 50 years. Anyone famili...I've had family in FL for 50 years. Anyone familiar with the history of the state knows it is a virtual petri dish for growing every kind of real estate boom, bust, scam, and shoddy building practice. Still love the place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157045332596044682006-08-31T18:28:00.000+01:002006-08-31T18:28:00.000+01:00Florida here. It is entertaining to watch this dis...Florida here. It is entertaining to watch this disaster unfold. I remember when every tom, dick and harry would come into the city's building dept wanting to build houses. Wonder what happened to those idiots. Yes these houses are so over priced that the only loans one can get are the adj. ones that cause you to be foreclosed on in a year or 2.<BR/><BR/>mort...on the califirnians that got sucked into it...TONS. I was browsing the county real estate appraiser site. The new development is full of CA hammerheads who bought these turd houses site unseen. They are all still for sale by these tard flipper wannnabe's.<BR/><BR/>Florida is the place. Great weather and I own enough land that I don't see the losers that bought these turd houses.<BR/><BR/>LMAO!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157043767025021292006-08-31T18:02:00.000+01:002006-08-31T18:02:00.000+01:00I think Nooawleens is the laughing stock... the ne...I think Nooawleens is the laughing stock... the new Chocolate City of the South. They're so stupid they re-elected Nagan who thinks he's Jesse or Martin Luther, but he's really in the pockets of the money men. Nooawleens is just ONE storm from extinction and they're still dividing up the spoils from last year. What a bunch of dumb shits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157043178406309882006-08-31T17:52:00.000+01:002006-08-31T17:52:00.000+01:00Florida is not the problem. Check the census as t...Florida is not the problem. Check the census as to who is moving to Florida. It is obvious when people vote with their pocketbooks that Florida is one of the best states to live. The early migration was not because of speculation.<BR/><BR/>Of course there is an extreme to almost everything. The New Yorkers are the ones that really moved the prices. This is the biggest inter-state migration. Cost of living was a major factor. Well, now that seems to have changed, but do not blame Florida. The blame is at the feet of those who came to Florida in droves to speculate on real estate. However, the root of the problem is the Feds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18675105.post-1157041942333043512006-08-31T17:32:00.000+01:002006-08-31T17:32:00.000+01:00An investor that I met at a meeting in Phx called ...An investor that I met at a meeting in Phx called me last night looking for a "partner" to put up the last $ 15,000 needed to finish purchasing a spec condo in someplace called Port Saint Lucie (?).<BR/><BR/>I told him that I'd probably have to... ummmm.. pass on that particular opportunity this time around.<BR/><BR/>Thanks, HP!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com